2024 QB Watch

@"supafreak84" said:

@"jargomcfargo" said:

@"pattersaur" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: This is what I believe to be the most likely mock I've seen so far....

Unfortunately, I wrote 6k words on NFL team needs in preparation for free agency and draft.

For fun, I attached a mock draft.https://t.co/jkFJm5UFCL

— Hayden Winks (@HaydenWinks) February 19, 2024

You think Olde Jim wants to help the Vikings out much?

You think he has something against the Vikings for the way they handled his interview? Could be I guess. 

But I do think JJ is going top 10. And I do think the Cards won't trade out if the MHJ is there. And I do think the Chargers will want to trade down. And I do think the Vikings want to trade up. But wow, now that I think about it, that little interview snub (assuming Harbaugh even views it that way) could make the Chargers take lesser offers from the Broncos or Raiders.

I don't think McCarthy is going Top 10. I know, right now, its liar's season and that's the current rumor. I don't believe it. I think he's going to be right there when Minnesota selects at #11 unless the Vikings move up for their guy (if it isn't JJM). I don't even know if they CAN move up without it being stupid compensation. 

I think he goes as high as 2 overall. I've been wrong, before but time will tell. I do not think he'll fall out of the top 10. Though I hope he does since I want the Vikings to take him.

If he falls past the 10th pick in a QB needy draft, the Vikings may do well to think twice about taking him there!

Unless he totally flubs the draft process all together, if we don't take him at 11, I bet the two teams picking directly behind us would. That's the tough thing also because those two teams (Broncos/Raiders) could easily jump us if they wanted McCarthy bad enough. 

@"StickyBun" said:

@"pattersaur" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: This is what I believe to be the most likely mock I've seen so far....

Unfortunately, I wrote 6k words on NFL team needs in preparation for free agency and draft.

For fun, I attached a mock draft.https://t.co/jkFJm5UFCL

— Hayden Winks (@HaydenWinks) February 19, 2024

You think Olde Jim wants to help the Vikings out much?

You think he has something against the Vikings for the way they handled his interview? Could be I guess. 

But I do think JJ is going top 10. And I do think the Cards won't trade out if the MHJ is there. And I do think the Chargers will want to trade down. And I do think the Vikings want to trade up. But wow, now that I think about it, that little interview snub (assuming Harbaugh even views it that way) could make the Chargers take lesser offers from the Broncos or Raiders.

I don't think McCarthy is going Top 10. I know, right now, its liar's season and that's the current rumor. I don't believe it. I think he's going to be right there when Minnesota selects at #11 unless the Vikings move up for their guy (if it isn't JJM). I don't even know if they CAN move up without it being stupid compensation. 

I think he goes as high as 2 overall. I've been wrong, before but time will tell. I do not think he'll fall out of the top 10. Though I hope he does since I want the Vikings to take him.

The thing is who knows if Minnesota likes him enough? That's the other thing nobody is talking about. QB is a strange position: if you get the 4th rated WRer, hey that's not bad. You get the 4th rated QB on your board, then it becomes is he worth the #11 spot? Do we like him enough to even take? What round is that grade? How many other players do you have rated higher than him that you SHOULD draft instead?

You don't want another Christian Ponder mistake.

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"pattersaur" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: This is what I believe to be the most likely mock I've seen so far....

Unfortunately, I wrote 6k words on NFL team needs in preparation for free agency and draft.

For fun, I attached a mock draft.https://t.co/jkFJm5UFCL

— Hayden Winks (@HaydenWinks) February 19, 2024

You think Olde Jim wants to help the Vikings out much?

You think he has something against the Vikings for the way they handled his interview? Could be I guess. 

But I do think JJ is going top 10. And I do think the Cards won't trade out if the MHJ is there. And I do think the Chargers will want to trade down. And I do think the Vikings want to trade up. But wow, now that I think about it, that little interview snub (assuming Harbaugh even views it that way) could make the Chargers take lesser offers from the Broncos or Raiders.

I don't think McCarthy is going Top 10. I know, right now, its liar's season and that's the current rumor. I don't believe it. I think he's going to be right there when Minnesota selects at #11 unless the Vikings move up for their guy (if it isn't JJM). I don't even know if they CAN move up without it being stupid compensation. 

I think he goes as high as 2 overall. I've been wrong, before but time will tell. I do not think he'll fall out of the top 10. Though I hope he does since I want the Vikings to take him.

The thing is who knows if Minnesota likes him enough? That's the other thing nobody is talking about. QB is a strange position: if you get the 4th rated WRer, hey that's not bad. You get the 4th rated QB on your board, then it becomes is he worth the #11 spot? Do we like him enough to even take? What round is that grade? How many other players do you have rated higher than him that you SHOULD draft instead?

You don't want another Christian Ponder mistake.

Of course the obvious answer is "we don't." But there was an early report that the Vikings were "doing a lot of work" on McCarthy. Yes, I'm sure they're doing a lot of work on everyone. But when you consider that JJM's Cousins-like traits seem to be a good fit for the offense, it's not hard to make the leap. 

There was a writer the other day who said he spoke to one NFC team who had McCarthy QB2. Bullshit? I don't know, but if it's true, it would not surprise me at all if it's the Vikings. 

@"StickyBun" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: This is what I believe to be the most likely mock I've seen so far....

Unfortunately, I wrote 6k words on NFL team needs in preparation for free agency and draft.

For fun, I attached a mock draft.https://t.co/jkFJm5UFCL

— Hayden Winks (@HaydenWinks) February 19, 2024

You think Olde Jim wants to help the Vikings out much?

You think he has something against the Vikings for the way they handled his interview? Could be I guess. 

But I do think JJ is going top 10. And I do think the Cards won't trade out if the MHJ is there. And I do think the Chargers will want to trade down. And I do think the Vikings want to trade up. But wow, now that I think about it, that little interview snub (assuming Harbaugh even views it that way) could make the Chargers take lesser offers from the Broncos or Raiders.

I don't think McCarthy is going Top 10. I know, right now, its liar's season and that's the current rumor. I don't believe it. I think he's going to be right there when Minnesota selects at #11 unless the Vikings move up for their guy (if it isn't JJM). I don't even know if they CAN move up without it being stupid compensation. 

@"StickyBun" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"pattersaur" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: This is what I believe to be the most likely mock I've seen so far....

Unfortunately, I wrote 6k words on NFL team needs in preparation for free agency and draft.

For fun, I attached a mock draft.https://t.co/jkFJm5UFCL

— Hayden Winks (@HaydenWinks) February 19, 2024

You think Olde Jim wants to help the Vikings out much?

You think he has something against the Vikings for the way they handled his interview? Could be I guess. 

But I do think JJ is going top 10. And I do think the Cards won't trade out if the MHJ is there. And I do think the Chargers will want to trade down. And I do think the Vikings want to trade up. But wow, now that I think about it, that little interview snub (assuming Harbaugh even views it that way) could make the Chargers take lesser offers from the Broncos or Raiders.

I don't think McCarthy is going Top 10. I know, right now, its liar's season and that's the current rumor. I don't believe it. I think he's going to be right there when Minnesota selects at #11 unless the Vikings move up for their guy (if it isn't JJM). I don't even know if they CAN move up without it being stupid compensation. 

I think he goes as high as 2 overall. I've been wrong, before but time will tell. I do not think he'll fall out of the top 10. Though I hope he does since I want the Vikings to take him.

The thing is who knows if Minnesota likes him enough? That's the other thing nobody is talking about. QB is a strange position: if you get the 4th rated WRer, hey that's not bad. You get the 4th rated QB on your board, then it becomes is he worth the #11 spot? Do we like him enough to even take? What round is that grade? How many other players do you have rated higher than him that you SHOULD draft instead?

You don't want another Christian Ponder mistake.

Of course the obvious answer is "we don't." But there was an early report that the Vikings were "doing a lot of work" on McCarthy. Yes, I'm sure they're doing a lot of work on everyone. But when you consider that JJM's Cousins-like traits seem to be a good fit for the offense, it's not hard to make the leap. 

There was a writer the other day who said he spoke to one NFC team who had McCarthy QB2. Bullshit? I don't know, but if it's true, it would not surprise me at all if it's the Vikings. 

Again, we really don't know shit. Everything right now is opinion, making 'a leap', etc. Maybe they love JJM...I know I do. My point is maybe the Vikings love Maye. Hell, maybe they love Nix. If you accept that this is 'Liar's Season' then you can't put any credence into what anyone is saying because a particular writer might even be telling the truth when he says he 'spoke to a NFC team' but they are lying to him to get someone to drop. 

The Draft is still 2 months away, lol.....we are going to wear ourselves out by end of March!  :p  But such is the interest and intensity when you are the fan of a team that will most probably take a QB high in the Draft. There's just something about that position that keeps the fires burning. 

@"comet52" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: This is what I believe to be the most likely mock I've seen so far....

Unfortunately, I wrote 6k words on NFL team needs in preparation for free agency and draft.

For fun, I attached a mock draft.https://t.co/jkFJm5UFCL

— Hayden Winks (@HaydenWinks) February 19, 2024

You think Olde Jim wants to help the Vikings out much?

You think he has something against the Vikings for the way they handled his interview? Could be I guess. 

But I do think JJ is going top 10. And I do think the Cards won't trade out if the MHJ is there. And I do think the Chargers will want to trade down. And I do think the Vikings want to trade up. But wow, now that I think about it, that little interview snub (assuming Harbaugh even views it that way) could make the Chargers take lesser offers from the Broncos or Raiders.

I don't think McCarthy is going Top 10. I know, right now, its liar's season and that's the current rumor. I don't believe it. I think he's going to be right there when Minnesota selects at #11 unless the Vikings move up for their guy (if it isn't JJM). I don't even know if they CAN move up without it being stupid compensation. 

I think he's this year's Will Levis - the guy who gets hyped as high as the top 3 then lands about where he ought to land based on his ability.  Although the caveat is, I have only seen two games of McCarthy and haven't really done an eval on him yet.  Maybe I'll change my tune down the road  :o B)

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"comet52" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: This is what I believe to be the most likely mock I've seen so far....

Unfortunately, I wrote 6k words on NFL team needs in preparation for free agency and draft.

For fun, I attached a mock draft.https://t.co/jkFJm5UFCL

— Hayden Winks (@HaydenWinks) February 19, 2024

You think Olde Jim wants to help the Vikings out much?

You think he has something against the Vikings for the way they handled his interview? Could be I guess. 

But I do think JJ is going top 10. And I do think the Cards won't trade out if the MHJ is there. And I do think the Chargers will want to trade down. And I do think the Vikings want to trade up. But wow, now that I think about it, that little interview snub (assuming Harbaugh even views it that way) could make the Chargers take lesser offers from the Broncos or Raiders.

I don't think McCarthy is going Top 10. I know, right now, its liar's season and that's the current rumor. I don't believe it. I think he's going to be right there when Minnesota selects at #11 unless the Vikings move up for their guy (if it isn't JJM). I don't even know if they CAN move up without it being stupid compensation. 

I think he's this year's Will Levis - the guy who gets hyped as high as the top 3 then lands about where he ought to land based on his ability.  Although the caveat is, I have only seen two games of McCarthy and haven't really done an eval on him yet.  Maybe I'll change my tune down the road  :o B)

Except that Levis's drop was almost certainly due to character issues. 

@"jargomcfargo" said:

@"Havoc1649" said: I’ll go a step further than Merrill Hoge after my review of Caleb Williams. Not only do I think he “isn’t special”, I think there’s a better than average chance he’ll bust. He’s going to have to work his tail off to be a viable NFL QB.

Why? His decision making is too slow. He will struggle in structure because of it and in the NFL you have to be able to play within structure to succeed. The ball has to be out on time, accurate, and anticipatory. There is very little sign of any of this in his game tape. The things he does to make uo for these deficiencies - run all over the place, is unlikely to work for long before defensive coordinators force him to beat them from the pocket. That will necessitate much faster processing than he has shown thus far.

His arm talent is exceptional so there is something to work with. As a prospect he isn’t terrible, but taking him in the top 10 is crazy risky. Can he get it together? Possibly, but it’s probably dependent on where he goes. 

My current QB rankings:

1. Jayden Daniels
2. Bo Nix
3. JJM
4. Drake Maye
5. Michael Penix
6. Caleb Williams

Which of these QB's is the fastest processer of the bunch? What stands out to me as a special trait for an NFL QB in addition to all else is rapid processing of the defense after the ball is snapped. Knows what he's looking for. Bang bang bang, one read to the next and getting the ball out when he sees it. That is what CJ Stroud has in addition to his other attributes.
Sometimes when a college QB is lauded for his ability to make plays off script it is because he can't process fast enough to deliver the ball on schedule.
Just wondering what your opinion is since you already see this with Williams?

@"Havoc1649" said:

@"jargomcfargo" said:

@"Havoc1649" said: I’ll go a step further than Merrill Hoge after my review of Caleb Williams. Not only do I think he “isn’t special”, I think there’s a better than average chance he’ll bust. He’s going to have to work his tail off to be a viable NFL QB.

Why? His decision making is too slow. He will struggle in structure because of it and in the NFL you have to be able to play within structure to succeed. The ball has to be out on time, accurate, and anticipatory. There is very little sign of any of this in his game tape. The things he does to make uo for these deficiencies - run all over the place, is unlikely to work for long before defensive coordinators force him to beat them from the pocket. That will necessitate much faster processing than he has shown thus far.

His arm talent is exceptional so there is something to work with. As a prospect he isn’t terrible, but taking him in the top 10 is crazy risky. Can he get it together? Possibly, but it’s probably dependent on where he goes. 

My current QB rankings:

1. Jayden Daniels
2. Bo Nix
3. JJM
4. Drake Maye
5. Michael Penix
6. Caleb Williams

Which of these QB's is the fastest processer of the bunch? What stands out to me as a special trait for an NFL QB in addition to all else is rapid processing of the defense after the ball is snapped. Knows what he's looking for. Bang bang bang, one read to the next and getting the ball out when he sees it. That is what CJ Stroud has in addition to his other attributes.
Sometimes when a college QB is lauded for his ability to make plays off script it is because he can't process fast enough to deliver the ball on schedule.
Just wondering what your opinion is since you already see this with Williams?

Fastest processor in my opinion is Bo Nix and it’s not close. I’ve evaluated QB’s for fun for the past 20 years and I struggle to find anyone to compare him to at the college level. Aaron Rodgers in his NFL prime maybe? I don’t know if anyone has sussed it out yet, but Bo Nix will be a top 3 processor in the NFL the moment he’s drafted in my opinion. I’m not sure if there’s any current NFL QB as fast as him. Honestly, I’d love to see his metrics/analytics as they have to out of this world. 

I like Daniels extra dimension on the move, but from a pure QB ceiling standpoint, there’s a good chance Nix is the best of the bunch and most likely to be a true generational player. The kid is a freak.

@"Havoc1649" said:

@"jargomcfargo" said:

@"Havoc1649" said: I’ll go a step further than Merrill Hoge after my review of Caleb Williams. Not only do I think he “isn’t special”, I think there’s a better than average chance he’ll bust. He’s going to have to work his tail off to be a viable NFL QB.

Why? His decision making is too slow. He will struggle in structure because of it and in the NFL you have to be able to play within structure to succeed. The ball has to be out on time, accurate, and anticipatory. There is very little sign of any of this in his game tape. The things he does to make uo for these deficiencies - run all over the place, is unlikely to work for long before defensive coordinators force him to beat them from the pocket. That will necessitate much faster processing than he has shown thus far.

His arm talent is exceptional so there is something to work with. As a prospect he isn’t terrible, but taking him in the top 10 is crazy risky. Can he get it together? Possibly, but it’s probably dependent on where he goes. 

My current QB rankings:

1. Jayden Daniels
2. Bo Nix
3. JJM
4. Drake Maye
5. Michael Penix
6. Caleb Williams

Which of these QB's is the fastest processer of the bunch? What stands out to me as a special trait for an NFL QB in addition to all else is rapid processing of the defense after the ball is snapped. Knows what he's looking for. Bang bang bang, one read to the next and getting the ball out when he sees it. That is what CJ Stroud has in addition to his other attributes.
Sometimes when a college QB is lauded for his ability to make plays off script it is because he can't process fast enough to deliver the ball on schedule.
Just wondering what your opinion is since you already see this with Williams?

Fastest processor in my opinion is Bo Nix and it’s not close. I’ve evaluated QB’s for fun for the past 20 years and I struggle to find anyone to compare him to at the college level. Aaron Rodgers in his NFL prime maybe? I don’t know if anyone has sussed it out yet, but Bo Nix will be a top 3 processor in the NFL the moment he’s drafted in my opinion. I’m not sure if there’s any current NFL QB as fast as him. Honestly, I’d love to see his metrics/analytics as they have to out of this world. 

I like Daniels extra dimension on the move, but from a pure QB ceiling standpoint, there’s a good chance Nix is the best of the bunch and most likely to be a true generational player. The kid is a freak.

@"CFIAvike" said:

@"Havoc1649" said:

@"jargomcfargo" said:

@"Havoc1649" said: I’ll go a step further than Merrill Hoge after my review of Caleb Williams. Not only do I think he “isn’t special”, I think there’s a better than average chance he’ll bust. He’s going to have to work his tail off to be a viable NFL QB.

Why? His decision making is too slow. He will struggle in structure because of it and in the NFL you have to be able to play within structure to succeed. The ball has to be out on time, accurate, and anticipatory. There is very little sign of any of this in his game tape. The things he does to make uo for these deficiencies - run all over the place, is unlikely to work for long before defensive coordinators force him to beat them from the pocket. That will necessitate much faster processing than he has shown thus far.

His arm talent is exceptional so there is something to work with. As a prospect he isn’t terrible, but taking him in the top 10 is crazy risky. Can he get it together? Possibly, but it’s probably dependent on where he goes. 

My current QB rankings:

1. Jayden Daniels
2. Bo Nix
3. JJM
4. Drake Maye
5. Michael Penix
6. Caleb Williams

Which of these QB's is the fastest processer of the bunch? What stands out to me as a special trait for an NFL QB in addition to all else is rapid processing of the defense after the ball is snapped. Knows what he's looking for. Bang bang bang, one read to the next and getting the ball out when he sees it. That is what CJ Stroud has in addition to his other attributes.
Sometimes when a college QB is lauded for his ability to make plays off script it is because he can't process fast enough to deliver the ball on schedule.
Just wondering what your opinion is since you already see this with Williams?

Fastest processor in my opinion is Bo Nix and it’s not close. I’ve evaluated QB’s for fun for the past 20 years and I struggle to find anyone to compare him to at the college level. Aaron Rodgers in his NFL prime maybe? I don’t know if anyone has sussed it out yet, but Bo Nix will be a top 3 processor in the NFL the moment he’s drafted in my opinion. I’m not sure if there’s any current NFL QB as fast as him. Honestly, I’d love to see his metrics/analytics as they have to out of this world. 

I like Daniels extra dimension on the move, but from a pure QB ceiling standpoint, there’s a good chance Nix is the best of the bunch and most likely to be a true generational player. The kid is a freak.

I’m genuinely curious as to what leads you to the idea that Nix will be a top 3 processor in the NFL the second he’s drafted?  I mean no one can deny that his offense at Oregon was a simplified 1-read offense…I’m just struggling to see how that translates to a very complex NFL offense. 

I mean, if you have this nailed and literally no front office person or scout in the NFL can figure it out…that’s WILD…but good on ya. I mean a rookie that can process an NFL offense and read defenses faster than all but maybe 2 QBs would be a Manning-Level generational talent worthy of the first overall pick. I mean that’s absolute can’t miss, sure-fire Hall of Famer kind of praise. 

@"CFIAvike" said:

@"Havoc1649" said:

@"jargomcfargo" said:

@"Havoc1649" said: I’ll go a step further than Merrill Hoge after my review of Caleb Williams. Not only do I think he “isn’t special”, I think there’s a better than average chance he’ll bust. He’s going to have to work his tail off to be a viable NFL QB.

Why? His decision making is too slow. He will struggle in structure because of it and in the NFL you have to be able to play within structure to succeed. The ball has to be out on time, accurate, and anticipatory. There is very little sign of any of this in his game tape. The things he does to make uo for these deficiencies - run all over the place, is unlikely to work for long before defensive coordinators force him to beat them from the pocket. That will necessitate much faster processing than he has shown thus far.

His arm talent is exceptional so there is something to work with. As a prospect he isn’t terrible, but taking him in the top 10 is crazy risky. Can he get it together? Possibly, but it’s probably dependent on where he goes. 

My current QB rankings:

1. Jayden Daniels
2. Bo Nix
3. JJM
4. Drake Maye
5. Michael Penix
6. Caleb Williams

Which of these QB's is the fastest processer of the bunch? What stands out to me as a special trait for an NFL QB in addition to all else is rapid processing of the defense after the ball is snapped. Knows what he's looking for. Bang bang bang, one read to the next and getting the ball out when he sees it. That is what CJ Stroud has in addition to his other attributes.
Sometimes when a college QB is lauded for his ability to make plays off script it is because he can't process fast enough to deliver the ball on schedule.
Just wondering what your opinion is since you already see this with Williams?

Fastest processor in my opinion is Bo Nix and it’s not close. I’ve evaluated QB’s for fun for the past 20 years and I struggle to find anyone to compare him to at the college level. Aaron Rodgers in his NFL prime maybe? I don’t know if anyone has sussed it out yet, but Bo Nix will be a top 3 processor in the NFL the moment he’s drafted in my opinion. I’m not sure if there’s any current NFL QB as fast as him. Honestly, I’d love to see his metrics/analytics as they have to out of this world. 

I like Daniels extra dimension on the move, but from a pure QB ceiling standpoint, there’s a good chance Nix is the best of the bunch and most likely to be a true generational player. The kid is a freak.

I’m genuinely curious as to what leads you to the idea that Nix will be a top 3 processor in the NFL the second he’s drafted?  I mean no one can deny that his offense at Oregon was a simplified 1-read offense…I’m just struggling to see how that translates to a very complex NFL offense. 

I mean, if you have this nailed and literally no front office person or scout in the NFL can figure it out…that’s WILD…but good on ya. I mean a rookie that can process an NFL offense and read defenses faster than all but maybe 2 QBs would be a Manning-Level generational talent worthy of the first overall pick. I mean that’s absolute can’t miss, sure-fire Hall of Famer kind of praise. 

Found the numbers on how fast these guys are and comparison to current NFL QB’s

Michael Penix: 2.68 compares to Stafford 2.68

Drake Maye: 2.79 compares to Justin Herbert 2.80

Caleb Williams: 3.21 compares to Justin Fields 3.23

• Williams would be second slowest in NFL

Spencer Rattler: 2.82 compares to Sam Howell 2.82

Joe Milton: 2.64 compares to Stafford 2.68

JJM: 2.84 compares to Geno Smith 2.84

Jayden Daniels: 2.91 compares to Zach Wilson 2.91

Bo Nix: 2.44 compares to Tua 2.36

• Would be 2nd fastest time in the NFL

@"Havoc1649" said: Found the numbers on how fast these guys are and comparison to current NFL QB’s

Michael Penix: 2.68 compares to Stafford 2.68

Drake Maye: 2.79 compares to Justin Herbert 2.80

Caleb Williams: 3.21 compares to Justin Fields 3.23

• Williams would be second slowest in NFL

Spencer Rattler: 2.82 compares to Sam Howell 2.82

Joe Milton: 2.64 compares to Stafford 2.68

JJM: 2.84 compares to Geno Smith 2.84

Jayden Daniels: 2.91 compares to Zach Wilson 2.91

Bo Nix: 2.44 compares to Tua 2.36

• Would be 2nd fastest time in the NFL

"One of the worst kept secrets in last years draft, was how much the #Vikings wanted to draft a quarterback." @dpbrugler said today, he went on "it's fair to assume again, they're going to be hunting QB's in the draft...if I'm JJ McCarthy, this is where I want to go." pic.twitter.com/TutsZasuQ9

— The Purple Persuasion (@TPPSkol) February 21, 2024

JJ McCarthy is an IDEAL quarterback prospect in today’s NFL.

NFL evaluators have described McCarthy's processing as "elite” per @LanceZierlein, and processing is the most important trait for a QB to have, given how modern pattern-matching defenses are faster and more puzzling… pic.twitter.com/KhlV61nLBp

— NFL Draft Files (@NFL_DF) February 21, 2024

Here's another throw of the dart against the wall. A very expensive move that would give me some pause to say the least lol! 

Vikings trade picks 11, 2025 first round pick and 2026 first round pick to the Patriots for pick 3The Vikings need to make a move for a quarterback and Maye could easily be at the top of their board with his ability to attack down the field and create outside of structure. This would be a home run, yet expensive move for the Vikings.
StrengthsMaye is a talented passer with the frame of a prototypical quarterback and it shows in many facets of his game.

His footwork is crisp, especially in the quick game. Knows how to get his feet and hips setup and flipped with speed and efficiency. His transition to the NFL will be significantly easier because of his success and consistency in quick game concepts.
Maye throws a beautiful football. He can drive the ball to all levels of the field with accuracy and power. Throws a javelin deep ball and gives his receivers a consistent chance to win down the field.
Maye takes care of the football having only threw 16 interceptions and 26 turnover-worthy plays to 80 big-time throws.

WeaknessMaye has a tendency to bail the pocket early. His internal clock is off and he defaults way too often to bailing the pocket instead of staying patient and climbing the pocket. He misses some easy throws and big plays this way. The good news is that he showed improvement in that department as the season went on.

@"purplefaithful" said:

Here's another throw of the dart against the wall. A very expensive move that would give me some pause to say the least lol! 

Vikings trade picks 11, 2025 first round pick and 2026 first round pick to the Patriots for pick 3The Vikings need to make a move for a quarterback and Maye could easily be at the top of their board with his ability to attack down the field and create outside of structure. This would be a home run, yet expensive move for the Vikings.

StrengthsMaye is a talented passer with the frame of a prototypical quarterback and it shows in many facets of his game.

His footwork is crisp, especially in the quick game. Knows how to get his feet and hips setup and flipped with speed and efficiency. His transition to the NFL will be significantly easier because of his success and consistency in quick game concepts.
Maye throws a beautiful football. He can drive the ball to all levels of the field with accuracy and power. Throws a javelin deep ball and gives his receivers a consistent chance to win down the field.
Maye takes care of the football having only threw 16 interceptions and 26 turnover-worthy plays to 80 big-time throws.

WeaknessMaye has a tendency to bail the pocket early. His internal clock is off and he defaults way too often to bailing the pocket instead of staying patient and climbing the pocket. He misses some easy throws and big plays this way. The good news is that he showed improvement in that department as the season went on.

His mechanics are really good in the quick game but his processing can slow him down. Maye will see it downfield but his legs won’t be set and he has to hitch one extra time, causing him to be late on throws.
Maye tends to try and run the football a little too much. While he can take advantage of the defense in the running game, he tries to make plays he’s not quite capable of.
OverviewI think Maye is easily a first-round quarterback and should go in the top five. However, there is this idea that he’s a slam dunk in the top five and that’s just not the case. He needs some work to get there but the tools and raw ability is both impressive and something worth developing.
https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/lists/vikings-2024-nfl-draft-scouting-report-north-carolina-qb-drake-maye/

@"minny65" said:

@"purplefaithful" said:

Here's another throw of the dart against the wall. A very expensive move that would give me some pause to say the least lol! 

Vikings trade picks 11, 2025 first round pick and 2026 first round pick to the Patriots for pick 3The Vikings need to make a move for a quarterback and Maye could easily be at the top of their board with his ability to attack down the field and create outside of structure. This would be a home run, yet expensive move for the Vikings.

StrengthsMaye is a talented passer with the frame of a prototypical quarterback and it shows in many facets of his game.

His footwork is crisp, especially in the quick game. Knows how to get his feet and hips setup and flipped with speed and efficiency. His transition to the NFL will be significantly easier because of his success and consistency in quick game concepts.
Maye throws a beautiful football. He can drive the ball to all levels of the field with accuracy and power. Throws a javelin deep ball and gives his receivers a consistent chance to win down the field.
Maye takes care of the football having only threw 16 interceptions and 26 turnover-worthy plays to 80 big-time throws.

WeaknessMaye has a tendency to bail the pocket early. His internal clock is off and he defaults way too often to bailing the pocket instead of staying patient and climbing the pocket. He misses some easy throws and big plays this way. The good news is that he showed improvement in that department as the season went on.

His mechanics are really good in the quick game but his processing can slow him down. Maye will see it downfield but his legs won’t be set and he has to hitch one extra time, causing him to be late on throws.
Maye tends to try and run the football a little too much. While he can take advantage of the defense in the running game, he tries to make plays he’s not quite capable of.
OverviewI think Maye is easily a first-round quarterback and should go in the top five. However, there is this idea that he’s a slam dunk in the top five and that’s just not the case. He needs some work to get there but the tools and raw ability is both impressive and something worth developing.
https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/lists/vikings-2024-nfl-draft-scouting-report-north-carolina-qb-drake-maye/

3 first round picks to move up 8 spots it way too much IMO.  I'm thinking more like our 11 pick, 2025 1st round pick and maybe a 2025 4th rounder?

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2024-nfl-two-round-mock-draft-vikings-replace-kirk-cousins-with-j-j-mccarthy-in-round-1/