2024 QB Watch

@"StickyBun" said:

@"RS Express" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: FWIW, NFLDraftBuzz.com takes the rankings from 10 leading draft sites and averages them. 

Caleb Williams is 1.9, highest is 1st, lowest is 4th. 
Drake Maye is 3.8, highest is 1st, lowest is 6th
Jayden Daniels is 21.3, highest is 8th, lowest is 71st
Michael Penix is 35.8, highest is 9th, lowest is 97th
Bo Nix is 36.5, highest is 7th, lowest is 66th
JJ McCarthy is 45.1, highest is 21st, lowest is 86th. 

Probably wise to throw out the highest and lowest ranking for each since they appear to be somewhat anomalous. 

Makes you wonder how recently those draft rankings were updated.  If Daniels makes it to 8 let alone 21 I'll eat cottage cheese. 

Dude, I love cottage cheese. 

@"RS Express" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"RS Express" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: FWIW, NFLDraftBuzz.com takes the rankings from 10 leading draft sites and averages them. 

Caleb Williams is 1.9, highest is 1st, lowest is 4th. 
Drake Maye is 3.8, highest is 1st, lowest is 6th
Jayden Daniels is 21.3, highest is 8th, lowest is 71st
Michael Penix is 35.8, highest is 9th, lowest is 97th
Bo Nix is 36.5, highest is 7th, lowest is 66th
JJ McCarthy is 45.1, highest is 21st, lowest is 86th. 

Probably wise to throw out the highest and lowest ranking for each since they appear to be somewhat anomalous. 

Makes you wonder how recently those draft rankings were updated.  If Daniels makes it to 8 let alone 21 I'll eat cottage cheese. 

Dude, I love cottage cheese. 

This explains a lot  :p

@"StickyBun" said:

@"RS Express" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"RS Express" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: FWIW, NFLDraftBuzz.com takes the rankings from 10 leading draft sites and averages them. 

Caleb Williams is 1.9, highest is 1st, lowest is 4th. 
Drake Maye is 3.8, highest is 1st, lowest is 6th
Jayden Daniels is 21.3, highest is 8th, lowest is 71st
Michael Penix is 35.8, highest is 9th, lowest is 97th
Bo Nix is 36.5, highest is 7th, lowest is 66th
JJ McCarthy is 45.1, highest is 21st, lowest is 86th. 

Probably wise to throw out the highest and lowest ranking for each since they appear to be somewhat anomalous. 

Makes you wonder how recently those draft rankings were updated.  If Daniels makes it to 8 let alone 21 I'll eat cottage cheese. 

Dude, I love cottage cheese. 

This explains a lot  :p

Ha ha, I also love Limburger cheese on toast!

Ewers officially returning to Texas as expected 

@"supafreak84" said: Ewers officially returning to Texas as expected 

If that's in the 2nd round, where many have him, I think he stays. But there are a handful of respected draft analysts like Matt Miller who think he could be a top 15 pick. If that's where they place him, he probably declares. 

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"supafreak84" said: Ewers officially returning to Texas as expected 

I think the big decision is JJ McCarthy. QBs tend to stay or declare based on where NFL scouting services project them to go.

If that's in the 2nd round, where many have him, I think he stays. But there are a handful of respected draft analysts like Matt Miller who think he could be a top 15 pick. If that's where they place him, he probably declares. 

@"Wetlander" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"supafreak84" said: Ewers officially returning to Texas as expected 

I think the big decision is JJ McCarthy. QBs tend to stay or declare based on where NFL scouting services project them to go.

If that's in the 2nd round, where many have him, I think he stays. But there are a handful of respected draft analysts like Matt Miller who think he could be a top 15 pick. If that's where they place him, he probably declares. 

Most of the connected draft guys have said scouts are telling them McCarthy is going to go higher than he's being projected by the media right now. 

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Wetlander" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"supafreak84" said: Ewers officially returning to Texas as expected 

I think the big decision is JJ McCarthy. QBs tend to stay or declare based on where NFL scouting services project them to go.

If that's in the 2nd round, where many have him, I think he stays. But there are a handful of respected draft analysts like Matt Miller who think he could be a top 15 pick. If that's where they place him, he probably declares. 

Most of the connected draft guys have said scouts are telling them McCarthy is going to go higher than he's being projected by the media right now. 

I get that impression. I think the NFL sees him as a projection pick, a piece of clay. How might he have looked in a passing offense? He's three years younger than Bo Nix. What might he look like in three years? 

I think the fact that McCarthy is only 20, is a flat out winner, and has the physical skillet to make all the throws will eventually trump his lack of statistics. If he declares (and I think what happens with Harbuagh is going to be big), I really don't see him dropping past our pick at #11. Problem is you have the Giants picking at #6 who is reportedly in on QB, the Falcons at #8 who is obviously in on QB, and I think the Jets picking #10th could also be in on QB. 

The top 3 are going to be out of reach for Minnesota, so if we wanted McCarthy, the sweet spot is probably going to be trading up with the Chargers at #5 to get ahead of these teams 

Possible bombshell— Wesley Steinberg, a NYG reporter, is saying Caleb Williams won’t play for the Bears and is waiting for a trade before declaring.

Doubt it affects us much in regards to drafting a QB but if true- wow. (Waiting for Sticky to start a separate thread on this in 3, 2…)

@"pattersaur" said: Possible bombshell— Wesley Steinberg, a NYG reporter, is saying Caleb Williams won’t play for the Bears and is waiting for a trade before declaring.

Doubt it affects us much in regards to drafting a QB but if true- wow. (Waiting for Sticky to start a separate thread on this in 3, 2…)

That said, it wouldn't surprise me too much if CW eventually does refuse to play for certain teams. 

@"pattersaur" said: Possible bombshell— Wesley Steinberg, a NYG reporter, is saying Caleb Williams won’t play for the Bears and is waiting for a trade before declaring.

Doubt it affects us much in regards to drafting a QB but if true- wow. (Waiting for Sticky to start a separate thread on this in 3, 2…)

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Wetlander" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"supafreak84" said: Ewers officially returning to Texas as expected 

I think the big decision is JJ McCarthy. QBs tend to stay or declare based on where NFL scouting services project them to go.

If that's in the 2nd round, where many have him, I think he stays. But there are a handful of respected draft analysts like Matt Miller who think he could be a top 15 pick. If that's where they place him, he probably declares. 

Most of the connected draft guys have said scouts are telling them McCarthy is going to go higher than he's being projected by the media right now. 

I get that impression. I think the NFL sees him as a projection pick, a piece of clay. How might he have looked in a passing offense? He's three years younger than Bo Nix. What might he look like in three years? 

@"pattersaur" said: Possible bombshell— Wesley Steinberg, a NYG reporter, is saying Caleb Williams won’t play for the Bears and is waiting for a trade before declaring.

Doubt it affects us much in regards to drafting a QB but if true- wow. (Waiting for Sticky to start a separate thread on this in 3, 2…)

Caleb Williams talked about going back to school to avoid the Bears. From what I’ve been told, Caleb Williams “desperately” wants to be a Viking.

I’m guessing the “desperately” claim is probably a bit of an exaggeration, but it sounds like the Vikings are near the top of his list for his ideal outcome. 

@"supafreak84" said: I think the fact that McCarthy is only 20, is a flat out winner, and has the physical skillet to make all the throws will eventually trump his lack of statistics. If he declares (and I think what happens with Harbuagh is going to be big), I really don't see him dropping past our pick at #11. Problem is you have the Giants picking at #6 who is reportedly in on QB, the Falcons at #8 who is obviously in on QB, and I think the Jets picking #10th could also be in on QB. 

The top 3 are going to be out of reach for Minnesota, so if we wanted McCarthy, the sweet spot is probably going to be trading up with the Chargers at #5 to get ahead of these teams 

At 20 he is barely out of his teens 

Zona could be another trade-up spot for us, if they are so inclined. 

IMO, there is little doubt McCarthy will be there at #11 for Minnesota. 

@"kmillard" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"Wetlander" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"supafreak84" said: Ewers officially returning to Texas as expected 

I think the big decision is JJ McCarthy. QBs tend to stay or declare based on where NFL scouting services project them to go.

If that's in the 2nd round, where many have him, I think he stays. But there are a handful of respected draft analysts like Matt Miller who think he could be a top 15 pick. If that's where they place him, he probably declares. 

Most of the connected draft guys have said scouts are telling them McCarthy is going to go higher than he's being projected by the media right now. 

I get that impression. I think the NFL sees him as a projection pick, a piece of clay. How might he have looked in a passing offense? He's three years younger than Bo Nix. What might he look like in three years? 

Sounds like Tarvaris Jackson. Anyway He looks pretty ordinary I would aim a little higher.

@"Havoc1649" said:

@"pattersaur" said: Possible bombshell— Wesley Steinberg, a NYG reporter, is saying Caleb Williams won’t play for the Bears and is waiting for a trade before declaring.

Doubt it affects us much in regards to drafting a QB but if true- wow. (Waiting for Sticky to start a separate thread on this in 3, 2…)

Caleb Williams talked about going back to school to avoid the Bears. From what I’ve been told, Caleb Williams “desperately” wants to be a Viking.

I’m guessing the “desperately” claim is probably a bit of an exaggeration, but it sounds like the Vikings are near the top of his list for his ideal outcome. 

@"Havoc1649" said:

@"pattersaur" said: Possible bombshell— Wesley Steinberg, a NYG reporter, is saying Caleb Williams won’t play for the Bears and is waiting for a trade before declaring.

Doubt it affects us much in regards to drafting a QB but if true- wow. (Waiting for Sticky to start a separate thread on this in 3, 2…)

Caleb Williams talked about going back to school to avoid the Bears. From what I’ve been told, Caleb Williams “desperately” wants to be a Viking.

I’m guessing the “desperately” claim is probably a bit of an exaggeration, but it sounds like the Vikings are near the top of his list for his ideal outcome. 

@"StickyBun" said:

@"Havoc1649" said:

@"pattersaur" said: Possible bombshell— Wesley Steinberg, a NYG reporter, is saying Caleb Williams won’t play for the Bears and is waiting for a trade before declaring.

Doubt it affects us much in regards to drafting a QB but if true- wow. (Waiting for Sticky to start a separate thread on this in 3, 2…)

Caleb Williams talked about going back to school to avoid the Bears. From what I’ve been told, Caleb Williams “desperately” wants to be a Viking.

I’m guessing the “desperately” claim is probably a bit of an exaggeration, but it sounds like the Vikings are near the top of his list for his ideal outcome. 

He does want to be a Viking.....unfortunately, it doesn't mean he will. His 'team' views the organization, the market and the opportunity as perfect for him to succeed and be mentored properly. I don't think its possible, but if KAM somehow maneuvers to get this kid, it will be a home run. Like an out of the park home run deal.