2024 QB Watch
NFL Rookie Watch@NFLRookieWatxhThe potential 2024 QB draft class absolutely showed OUT in week one.
This QB class could be the best the NFL has EVER seen.
Caleb Williams (USC): 18/24, 319 passing yards, 5 TD’s
Drake Maye (UNC): 24/32, 269 yards, 2 TD’s, 2 INT’s
Shedeur Sanders (Colorado): 38/47, 510 yards (led country), 4 TD’s
Michael Penix Jr. (UW): 29/40, 450 yards, 5 TD’s
Quinn Ewers (Texas): 19/30, 260 yards, 3 TD’s
JJ McCarthy (Michigan): 26/30, 280 yards, 3 TD’s
Bo Nix (Oregon): 23/27, 287 yards, 3 TD’s
Riley Leonard (Duke): 17/33, 175 yards, 98 rushing yards, 1 TD
Spencer Rattler (SC): 30/39, 353 yards
Joe Milton (Tennessee): 21/30, 201 yards, 4 total TD’s
Jordan Travis (FSU): 23/31, 342 yards, 5 total TD’s
And only ONE of these QB’s came away with a loss
@"MaroonBells" said: Caleb Williams has officially declared.Makes me wonder how much validity there was to the rumors that he wouldn't declare unless the Bears traded the pick?
@"purplefaithful" said:@"MaroonBells" said: Caleb Williams has officially declared. We know JJM is all in too as of Sunday.Did Daniels and Maye already declare?
What about Nix and Pennix?
Yep, JJM, Daniels, Maye and Nix have declared. I don't think Penix was eligible to return.
@"supafreak84" said:That rumor can't be true. NFL teams are not allowed to trade draft picks until new league year, which is two months after declaration deadline. Also saw a rumor that he could enter the supplemental draft, but that can't happen either, since he still has eligibility left at USC.@"MaroonBells" said: Caleb Williams has officially declared. Makes me wonder how much validity there was to the rumors that he wouldn't declare unless the Bears traded the pick?But that doesn't mean there isn't at least some truth to him wanting to avoid Chicago.
@"MaroonBells" said: Caleb Williams has officially declared.Purely pie in the sky hypothetical that won’t in a million years happen but I wonder what Chicago’s price would be for Number 1?
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It’d be insane for the Vikings to offer that but even if we did, would Chicago accept it? This is why trades are so hard in the NFL.
based on somebodies mock draft.... assuming we take a QB in round 1, do we double down on late day 2 or early day 3 and take another raw QB prospect?
I liked the concept, but IMO unless we are ready to say no on Hall, do we really have room for 4 QBs on the roster, assuming we sign a veteran to start the season or more? I dont think it would be prudent to try and have 3 young guys in camp, even with a solid veteran bridge QB, seem that would put a lot of pressure on the position coach and OC to get them coached up to the point of really being able to evaluate them before you have to try and stash one on the practice squad.
@"StickyBun" said: Caleb in Addison's mentions:
While I'm not certain Caleb is going to raise a fuss about where he goes, it's pretty clear he would love to join the Vikings.
So I'm seeing Jayden Daniels getting knocked a bit for lack of arm strength?
@"JimmyinSD" said: based on somebodies mock draft.... assuming we take a QB in round 1, do we double down on late day 2 or early day 3 and take another raw QB prospect?I liked the concept, but IMO unless we are ready to say no on Hall, do we really have room for 4 QBs on the roster, assuming we sign a veteran to start the season or more? I dont think it would be prudent to try and have 3 young guys in camp, even with a solid veteran bridge QB, seem that would put a lot of pressure on the position coach and OC to get them coached up to the point of really being able to evaluate them before you have to try and stash one on the practice squad.
If we move on from Kirk and cut Hall then sure, fire an extra bullet. If the QB room is Minshew (?), Rookie, Rookie, then let's roll. But if we keep Kirk or Wilson, I'm not sure developing 2 QBs behind them is practical. One will be running the scout team or getting 3rd team reps, and the value of those is dubious when you can probably get a quality-ish RB or WR for that same draft cost.
@"StickyBun" said: So I'm seeing Jayden Daniels getting knocked a bit for lack of arm strength?
And as the microscope is pulled out, the warts starting coming into focus. He doesn't throw with a lot of velocity IMO. I think he's more of a touch thrower. You don't see a lot of those 15-20 yard rockets that you see so much in Nix and McCarthy's game, but he's got plenty of deep arm from what I've seen.
Sources to @BleacherReport: Former #AZCardinals HC Kliff Kingsbury will interview for the #Bears vacant OC job.
— Jordan Schultz (@Schultz_Report) January 18, 2024
Kingsbury spent last season coaching Caleb Williams at USC.
Chicago holds the first pick in the 2024 NFL Draft. pic.twitter.com/tl4obNXG80
@"MaroonBells" said: https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1748055155394617844?s=20Reminds me of when Deshaun Watson said I'm not going to be a Brown. Then they guaranteed him $250M and suddenly he was up for it. Bears will do whatever they can to get Williams on board.
After all his success w/ the Mighty Might QB in Arizona, I think da Bears is a great place for old Kliffy to land… ;) B)
@"pattersaur" said:And they should. He's the best prospect in this upcoming class. Chicago is going to end up trading Fields, one way or the other....this year or the next. Fields is only 24 years old, somebody is going to give him another significant shot to be the guy. And if the Bears didn't have the lock to get Williams, they might have given Fields another year for sure in a real way. You can't be the team to pass on Caleb Williams. And I can't imagine the Bears would trade him (Fields) to a NFCN rival like Minnesota.@"MaroonBells" said: https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1748055155394617844?s=20 Reminds me of when Deshaun Watson said I'm not going to be a Brown. Then they guaranteed him $250M and suddenly he was up for it. Bears will do whatever they can to get Williams on board.p.s. Carolina fucked up HARD. That's beyond debate.
@"StickyBun" said:@"pattersaur" said:And they should. He's the best prospect in this upcoming class. Chicago is going to end up trading Fields, one way or the other....this year or the next. Fields is only 24 years old, somebody is going to give him another significant shot to be the guy. And if the Bears didn't have the lock to get Williams, they might have given Fields another year for sure in a real way. You can't be the team to pass on Caleb Williams. And I can't imagine the Bears would trade him (Fields) to a NFCN rival like Minnesota.@"MaroonBells" said: https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1748055155394617844?s=20 Reminds me of when Deshaun Watson said I'm not going to be a Brown. Then they guaranteed him $250M and suddenly he was up for it. Bears will do whatever they can to get Williams on board.p.s. Carolina fucked up HARD. That's beyond debate.
I agree that the Bears are likely going to take Williams. But think about this. (And yes I'm aware the Bears aren't likely to trade Williams to the Vikings).Someone recently figured the Bears would get the Vikings' 1st and 2nd rounder for the next two seasons in a trade back to 11. No clue how close that comp is, but I don't think it's far off.
So you're the Bears and you kinda think Fields might have a future and you're worried about Williams "baggage." Do you take Williams and trade Fields for a day two pick? Or do you keep Fields and build around him a formidable team with two top 11 picks this year, two 1sts, two 2nds next year, and two 1sts and two 2nds the following year?
Something to think about.
Here's a mock that will piss everyone off. Vikings pass on Daniels, not to mention Nix, Penix and JJM, to take a corner.
https://seahawkswire.usatoday.com/gallery/2024-nfl-mock-draft-seahawks-pick-jayden-daniels/
There is no way on earth I would trade even 1 additional first alone for Williams. We will get a good QB at 11.
@"MaroonBells" said:@"StickyBun" said:@"pattersaur" said:And they should. He's the best prospect in this upcoming class. Chicago is going to end up trading Fields, one way or the other....this year or the next. Fields is only 24 years old, somebody is going to give him another significant shot to be the guy. And if the Bears didn't have the lock to get Williams, they might have given Fields another year for sure in a real way. You can't be the team to pass on Caleb Williams. And I can't imagine the Bears would trade him (Fields) to a NFCN rival like Minnesota.@"MaroonBells" said: https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1748055155394617844?s=20 Reminds me of when Deshaun Watson said I'm not going to be a Brown. Then they guaranteed him $250M and suddenly he was up for it. Bears will do whatever they can to get Williams on board.p.s. Carolina fucked up HARD. That's beyond debate.
I agree that the Bears are likely going to take Williams. But think about this. (And yes I'm aware the Bears aren't likely to trade Williams to the Vikings).Someone recently figured the Bears would get the Vikings' 1st and 2nd rounder for the next two seasons in a trade back to 11. No clue how close that comp is, but I don't think it's far off.
So you're the Bears and you kinda think Fields might have a future and you're worried about Williams "baggage." Do you take Williams and trade Fields for a day two pick? Or do you keep Fields and build around him a formidable team with two top 11 picks this year, two 1sts, two 2nds next year, and two 1sts and two 2nds the following year?
Something to think about.
Using the Trey Lance trade as a measuring stick, Chicago will get three ones plus in a trade for that No. 1 pick.
@"Knucklehead" said:@"MaroonBells" said:@"StickyBun" said:@"pattersaur" said:And they should. He's the best prospect in this upcoming class. Chicago is going to end up trading Fields, one way or the other....this year or the next. Fields is only 24 years old, somebody is going to give him another significant shot to be the guy. And if the Bears didn't have the lock to get Williams, they might have given Fields another year for sure in a real way. You can't be the team to pass on Caleb Williams. And I can't imagine the Bears would trade him (Fields) to a NFCN rival like Minnesota.@"MaroonBells" said: https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1748055155394617844?s=20 Reminds me of when Deshaun Watson said I'm not going to be a Brown. Then they guaranteed him $250M and suddenly he was up for it. Bears will do whatever they can to get Williams on board.p.s. Carolina fucked up HARD. That's beyond debate.
I agree that the Bears are likely going to take Williams. But think about this. (And yes I'm aware the Bears aren't likely to trade Williams to the Vikings).Someone recently figured the Bears would get the Vikings' 1st and 2nd rounder for the next two seasons in a trade back to 11. No clue how close that comp is, but I don't think it's far off.
So you're the Bears and you kinda think Fields might have a future and you're worried about Williams "baggage." Do you take Williams and trade Fields for a day two pick? Or do you keep Fields and build around him a formidable team with two top 11 picks this year, two 1sts, two 2nds next year, and two 1sts and two 2nds the following year?
Something to think about.
Using the Trey Lance trade as a measuring stick, Chicago will get three ones plus in a trade for that No. 1 pick.
Its amazing how the 49'ers were able to pretty much shake that off and keep on truckin - all the way to an NFCCG and #1 seed in 24. yThe screwed the pooch on Lance and got lucky as Fck with Purdy. Who's asked to do nothing but drive the Ferrari on Sundays.
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