Sloter saves the day again LOL

Here are some numbers for your Sloterday Night. So far in three years of preseason games, Sloter is...
95 of 126, 75.4%, 11 TDs, 0 Interceptions. 
I don't know what the rating would be but it would be ridiculous. Like 130 ish. And that 75.4 completion percentage would be an NFL record.  

Sigh. I have to admit that I don't get how you can't play him with the #2s. Its not a huge deal to me, but it seems Sloter is a gamer. 

Only time Vikes offense was in sync all day was with Sloter. He is impressive. It's to the point now where I wonder if another team with one of these younger, offensive-minded head coaches might try and trade for him. I know he's a third-stringer, but he looks good.

EDIT: (The Dalvin play was amazing but felt more like an outlier rather than the first team being "in sync" to me.)

cousins looked bad today. i know its preseason but we have seen his warts.

@"pattersaur" said:

Only time Vikes offense was in sync all day was with Sloter. He is impressive. It's to the point now where I wonder if another team with one of these younger, offensive-minded head coaches might try and trade for him. I know he's a third-stringer, but he looks good.

Perhaps the Cardinals.  Sloter played much better than their backup Hudley who played most of the game and didn't look good at all.

What are the chances that the Vikings can unload Sloter to a Quarterback strapped team for a 1 and a 3rd?

@"vikingknights" said: What are the chances that the Vikings can unload Sloter to a Quarterback strapped team for a 1 and a 3rd?

A first round pick? Probably zero. I get the feeling Rick/Zim would happily take a 4th for him. And if he's so bad in practice that they're continuing to value that over what he does in games, then they may as well trade him. Whole thing is a little frustrating as a fan.

Again, he's playing against 3rd string guys. If you want to make an argument that he should get some time with the #2s, ok. But a 1st and a 3rd for him (I'm guessing that was sarcasm)?? lol. Even a 4th round pick is silly. 

Watch the drives he was in yesterday: mostly clean pockets, time to throw and guys were wide open. Also: look at the stats of other QBs playing around the NFL in similar situations: good stats too. Social media has made everyone highly critical and 'knowledgable' about every sports-related. Kirk has a crappy game yesterday and now fans want Sloter to start. It just is all so goofy. Fans are the worst, they really are. And the best. 

If they really wanted to trade him they should have been showcasing him against better talent and playcalling to his strengths.  I honestly have no idea what they are doing with this kid,  there seems to be absolutely no plan for him to provide  any value to the team at all.

Hes shown far to much for practice squad.  His true abilities are unknown since hes only shown his game against weak talent so his trade value is poor and he has built no confidence from the staff to move on from Mannion and go with Sloter.

the kid is in football purgatory and is not happy about it....how do we think this ends for the Vikes?

Luckily the game was televised here in AZ and got to watch it.  One thing I really watched was the play between Mannion and Sloter.  First,  Both played the majority of the time behind the exact same offensive linemen.  Secondly, They both played against the AZ defense, which I notice basically had the same players on the field that both our quarterbacks faced.  Sloter looked sharp as usual and Mannion looked slow and sluggish.  Maybe Sloter doesn't always get the offense in the right formation or manages the clock, but the kid produces.  Mannion might be a lot more football smart, but it doesn't seem to translate to the field.

Vikings would be fools for trading Sloter.

But if you want a comp of preseason star trades, here are a few: Former 4th rounder and preseason star QB Rob Johnson had started ONE game in 3 seasons for the Jags when the Bills gave up a 1st rounder for him. Preseason star Brett Favre was drafted by the Falcons in the 2nd round in 1991. A year later Mike Holmgren gave the Falcons a 1st rounder in what was seen at the time as a big victory by the....Falcons. 

But the best one I can think of is Tony Romo. Romo was undrafted and had played 3 seasons in Dallas as the 3rd string QB all three years (Sloter is in his 3rd season). By the time he entered his 4th season he had yet to play a single snap in the regular season, but he looked very good in the preseason. That offseason, Sean Payton offered the Cowboys a 3rd round draft choice. Jerry Jones turned it down, wanting no less than a 2nd rounder. 

At first I thought they were going to trade him. But after Zimmer's comments, I am convinced they like him and would like to continue to develop him. If the right trade offer comes along he will be gone. But otherwise he is a much better prospect than Mannion, and potentially Cousins. Cousins has accuracy, but is a pretty average QB.

@"StickyBun" said: Again, he's playing against 3rd string guys. If you want to make an argument that he should get some time with the #2s, ok. But a 1st and a 3rd for him (I'm guessing that was sarcasm)?? lol. Even a 4th round pick is silly. 

Watch the drives he was in yesterday: mostly clean pockets, time to throw and guys were wide open. Also: look at the stats of other QBs playing around the NFL in similar situations: good stats too. Social media has made everyone highly critical and 'knowledgable' about every sports-related. Kirk has a crappy game yesterday and now fans want Sloter to start. It just is all so goofy. Fans are the worst, they really are. And the best. 

If he was doing it against the 2's then he might get a high trade offer, that is the short sightedness of Zimmer.

If he had put him in right after Cousins yesterday and had similar results the Colts might be calling with and intriguing offer.  As it is he's just done it with 3's so it's not as good a sample.  I'd rather have a gamer than a good student playing QB, the good student can be a coach.

@"NodakViking" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Again, he's playing against 3rd string guys. If you want to make an argument that he should get some time with the #2s, ok. But a 1st and a 3rd for him (I'm guessing that was sarcasm)?? lol. Even a 4th round pick is silly. 

Watch the drives he was in yesterday: mostly clean pockets, time to throw and guys were wide open. Also: look at the stats of other QBs playing around the NFL in similar situations: good stats too. Social media has made everyone highly critical and 'knowledgable' about every sports-related. Kirk has a crappy game yesterday and now fans want Sloter to start. It just is all so goofy. Fans are the worst, they really are. And the best. 

If he was doing it against the 2's then he might get a high trade offer, that is the short sightedness of Zimmer.

If he had put him in right after Cousins yesterday and had similar results the Colts might be calling with and intriguing offer.  As it is he's just done it with 3's so it's not as good a sample.  I'd rather have a gamer than a good student playing QB, the good student can be a coach.

@"holmanjp" said:

@"NodakViking" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Again, he's playing against 3rd string guys. If you want to make an argument that he should get some time with the #2s, ok. But a 1st and a 3rd for him (I'm guessing that was sarcasm)?? lol. Even a 4th round pick is silly. 

Watch the drives he was in yesterday: mostly clean pockets, time to throw and guys were wide open. Also: look at the stats of other QBs playing around the NFL in similar situations: good stats too. Social media has made everyone highly critical and 'knowledgable' about every sports-related. Kirk has a crappy game yesterday and now fans want Sloter to start. It just is all so goofy. Fans are the worst, they really are. And the best. 

If he was doing it against the 2's then he might get a high trade offer, that is the short sightedness of Zimmer.

If he had put him in right after Cousins yesterday and had similar results the Colts might be calling with and intriguing offer.  As it is he's just done it with 3's so it's not as good a sample.  I'd rather have a gamer than a good student playing QB, the good student can be a coach.

Can you identify/name 4 players on either side of the ball that changed when Sloter came in?

@"ArizonaViking" said:

@"holmanjp" said:

@"NodakViking" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Again, he's playing against 3rd string guys. If you want to make an argument that he should get some time with the #2s, ok. But a 1st and a 3rd for him (I'm guessing that was sarcasm)?? lol. Even a 4th round pick is silly. 

Watch the drives he was in yesterday: mostly clean pockets, time to throw and guys were wide open. Also: look at the stats of other QBs playing around the NFL in similar situations: good stats too. Social media has made everyone highly critical and 'knowledgable' about every sports-related. Kirk has a crappy game yesterday and now fans want Sloter to start. It just is all so goofy. Fans are the worst, they really are. And the best. 

If he was doing it against the 2's then he might get a high trade offer, that is the short sightedness of Zimmer.

If he had put him in right after Cousins yesterday and had similar results the Colts might be calling with and intriguing offer.  As it is he's just done it with 3's so it's not as good a sample.  I'd rather have a gamer than a good student playing QB, the good student can be a coach.

Can you identify/name 4 players on either side of the ball that changed when Sloter came in?

The offensive line both played behind was Jones-center, Dozier, Samia-guards, Norman, Udoh-tackles.

@"holmanjp" said:

@"ArizonaViking" said:

@"holmanjp" said:

@"NodakViking" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Again, he's playing against 3rd string guys. If you want to make an argument that he should get some time with the #2s, ok. But a 1st and a 3rd for him (I'm guessing that was sarcasm)?? lol. Even a 4th round pick is silly. 

Watch the drives he was in yesterday: mostly clean pockets, time to throw and guys were wide open. Also: look at the stats of other QBs playing around the NFL in similar situations: good stats too. Social media has made everyone highly critical and 'knowledgable' about every sports-related. Kirk has a crappy game yesterday and now fans want Sloter to start. It just is all so goofy. Fans are the worst, they really are. And the best. 

If he was doing it against the 2's then he might get a high trade offer, that is the short sightedness of Zimmer.

If he had put him in right after Cousins yesterday and had similar results the Colts might be calling with and intriguing offer.  As it is he's just done it with 3's so it's not as good a sample.  I'd rather have a gamer than a good student playing QB, the good student can be a coach.

Can you identify/name 4 players on either side of the ball that changed when Sloter came in?

The offensive line both played behind was Jones-center, Dozier, Samia-guards, Norman, Udoh-tackles.

So it's safe to assume Mannion was playing against the same D players that Kyle faced when he took over?

We've been so focused on the Sloter earning the the #2 slot that it may be unnecessarily becoming a "#2 or bust" proposition. Not sure why it took me 3 games to realize but... #2... #3... he's still sticking around. He's still taking needed reps somewhere and continuing to polish up his game.

I was excited to see this play out. Turns out... it's not that exciting lol. This is only going to mean anything if Cousins' goes down or if we decide on carrying only 2 QBs... Browning is all but destined to 'do-nothing' his way to the practice squad.

@"holmanjp" said:

@"NodakViking" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Again, he's playing against 3rd string guys. If you want to make an argument that he should get some time with the #2s, ok. But a 1st and a 3rd for him (I'm guessing that was sarcasm)?? lol. Even a 4th round pick is silly. 

Watch the drives he was in yesterday: mostly clean pockets, time to throw and guys were wide open. Also: look at the stats of other QBs playing around the NFL in similar situations: good stats too. Social media has made everyone highly critical and 'knowledgable' about every sports-related. Kirk has a crappy game yesterday and now fans want Sloter to start. It just is all so goofy. Fans are the worst, they really are. And the best. 

If he was doing it against the 2's then he might get a high trade offer, that is the short sightedness of Zimmer.

If he had put him in right after Cousins yesterday and had similar results the Colts might be calling with and intriguing offer.  As it is he's just done it with 3's so it's not as good a sample.  I'd rather have a gamer than a good student playing QB, the good student can be a coach.

Can you identify/name 4 players on either side of the ball that changed when Sloter came in?

Here is what I dont get about the Sloter debate.
1. The kid is clearly playing really well against 3rd string (as some say). 
2. In the three years he has been with us, he had played very well.
3. When some say he should be elevated to 2nd QB others say he is not good enough. How on earth do we know (I know Zim does not care what we know or need to know) how good or bad he is without giving him a chance? All people are asking is to see him have a shot/extended action with the 2s. 

For those they say he is only good cos he is playing with third and fourth string players. Who else is he supposed to play with? He is working with what he is being given to work with.
Given this is preseason, is it really that hard to find a few mins for him to play with the 2s?
Even if he does not play well or struggles with the 2s, that would serve as an opportunity for Sloter to know he is not as ready as he may think he is.