OT: Winter is Here (spoiler alert!)

I'm pretty underwhelmed so far...

@"BarrNone55" said: I'm pretty underwhelmed so far...

I'm guessing it starts to ramp up from here.  The battle for the Rock comes next week I assume.  Jon and Danny should have a meet and greet, I'm getting the feeling Sansa is going to screw up being in charge of the north, Arya may make it back to have a reunion with Sansa,  I'm surprised a raven didn't arrive from the wall informing Jon of Bran's arrival.  That would have been an interesting decision to make, go north to meet up with Bran or go south to meet up with Danny.  My money is on Arya taking out Little Finger,  Sam has to do something else now.  Is he kicked out of the citadel for performing a forbidden procedure on Jorah?  Is he sent back to the wall or does he follow Jorah to meet up with Danny/Jon or does he take a verbal beat down and keep doing more research?

I thought E3 was very well done!

Things are picking-up quickly...

So much happening. So sad to see any beautiful Dornish women die. 

Olenna had the last laugh eh?

Great episode.  The imp is next.  

Epic E4! Best of the year to-date!! 

Drogon going to survive?

Did a Lannister just die? Nah c'mon

Little something/something brewing with Jon & Dany?

Too bad the gold made it to KL

Bring back The Hound! 

How scary is little Ary?? 

Bran is just  a bit creepy now...just a bit. 

Who hasn't been waiting and wanting to see a dragon unleashed in war?!  Top 3 episode of the show IMO.   

That was an amazing episode!!  

Great episode! Jamie will need to get that steel/iron off his bod quickly - heck even his hand could prevent him from getting out of there. Gonna take a miracle. Yes, Bran is getting quite creepy, but hey, he's the new Three Eyed Raven - lots of weird stuff constantly flowing into his head. Drogon will be fine - Dragons can only be killed if they are hit in the head with deep penetrating shot. Just wounded. 

BYW  - In the preview of next week - it appears Jon is standing in front of a Drogon? Anyways, I bet he gets torched, but being of Dragon Blood, will not be burned and Danny and everyone witnessing this will then have to re-think who he is and who is parents are. THAT will be interesting as it gets. Somehow and at sometime its going to have to be revealed who he is and his blood line. Just saying.

Question- Is Jon alive?  As in human being alive.  OR is he of the undead as well?  Just a different form of undead as compared to the White-walkers?  One kind resurrected by ice, the other (Jon) by fire.  Curiosity will be my downfall one day :)   

@"AllBS" said: Question- Is Jon alive?  As in human being alive.  OR is he of the undead as well?  Just a different form of undead as compared to the White-walkers?  One kind resurrected by ice, the other (Jon) by fire.  Curiosity will be my downfall one day :)   

I've never read the books or talked to anyone who's into them.  I'm blanking on the guys name who's been resurrected like 7 times already (with the Hound currently on the show).  Looks human, acts human, but obviously isn't 100% human.  For some stupid reason I saw his face and it triggered the idea of Jon not being human anymore either.  There's so many twists and turns in this story it's impossible to figure out.  You think you know where a story is going and in one episode it turns 180 degrees from that scenario, and it all makes sense.  lol      

@"AllBS" said: I've never read the books or talked to anyone who's into them.  I'm blanking on the guys name who's been resurrected like 7 times already (with the Hound currently on the show).  Looks human, acts human, but obviously isn't 100% human.  For some stupid reason I saw his face and it triggered the idea of Jon not being human anymore either.  There's so many twists and turns in this story it's impossible to figure out.  You think you know where a story is going and in one episode it turns 180 degrees from that scenario, and it all makes sense.  lol      

Beric Dondarrion is who you are trying to think of...  I think you're right that he isn't 100% "human" in the literal sense after being brought back to life so many times.  The books allude to the fact that every time he is resurrected by Thoros, he loses a little bit more of himself (memories of his past) and some think he doesn't eat or sleep.  It could be very similar to what happened to Benjen Stark north of the wall...
I'm still waiting for Martin to release the Winds of Winter (6th book), but I have a feeling that won't happen until the GoT show is over.  Which is a shame because I think he might lose some book readers if the books and show don't finish around the same time.  I'll still read them... but the people that were inspired to buy his books because they first became a fan of the show may not want to finish reading all the books if they already know how things are going to end...

@"Wetlander" said:

@"AllBS" said: I've never read the books or talked to anyone who's into them.  I'm blanking on the guys name who's been resurrected like 7 times already (with the Hound currently on the show).  Looks human, acts human, but obviously isn't 100% human.  For some stupid reason I saw his face and it triggered the idea of Jon not being human anymore either.  There's so many twists and turns in this story it's impossible to figure out.  You think you know where a story is going and in one episode it turns 180 degrees from that scenario, and it all makes sense.  lol      

Beric Dondarrion is who you are trying to think of...  I think you're right that he isn't 100% "human" in the literal sense after being brought back to life so many times.  The books allude to the fact that every time he is resurrected by Thoros, he loses a little bit more of himself (memories of his past) and some think he doesn't eat or sleep.  It could be very similar to what happened to Benjen Stark north of the wall...
I'm still waiting for Martin to release the Winds of Winter (6th book), but I have a feeling that won't happen until the GoT show is over.  Which is a shame because I think he might lose some book readers if the books and show don't finish around the same time.  I'll still read them... but the people that were inspired to buy his books because they first became a fan of the show may not want to finish reading all the books if they already know how things are going to end...

Actually "Lady Stoneheart"

Seriously!?  That would have been badass to see on screen!  I suppose it would kind of take away from the feeling that the Starks are always the underdogs in the story though.  Some of the storylines with her probably would have been epic though

@"AllBS" said: Seriously!?  That would have been badass to see on screen!  I suppose it would kind of take away from the feeling that the Starks are always the underdogs in the story though.  Some of the storylines with her probably would have been epic though

They will do a rundown of every episode (you can look up ALL the episodes if you have the time) and then compare things going on to what actually happened in the book. Also complete rundowns on all the history, maps - you name it its got it covered.

@"NorthernCalVike" said:

Speaking of being resurrected - in the books Neds wife Catelyn Stark is brought back to life three days after the Red Wedding by Beric Dondarrioin. He gives his life for hers through a kiss and he dies. She then takes over the Brotherhood Without Banners and goes on to seek revenge and kill everyone who was involved in the Red Wedding. She is not like she was  - physically looks like a ghoul as well as being less forgiving and not as nice a person. She goes by the name "Stoneheart" after her resurrection.

@"Wetlander" said:

@"NorthernCalVike" said:

Speaking of being resurrected - in the books Neds wife Catelyn Stark is brought back to life three days after the Red Wedding by Beric Dondarrioin. He gives his life for hers through a kiss and he dies. She then takes over the Brotherhood Without Banners and goes on to seek revenge and kill everyone who was involved in the Red Wedding. She is not like she was  - physically looks like a ghoul as well as being less forgiving and not as nice a person. She goes by the name "Stoneheart" after her resurrection.

Yeah, that part was completely left out of the HBO series...  there is another character that should have been introduced already (in the books), but is completely left out of the show.  Makes me wonder if that character isn't a big plot point (seemed like it "could" be in the books) or if the HBO series is substituting that character's role with another already in the show. 

IT already is packing too much in each episode this season..My mind is swimming after only 4 with everything that's happened. Fascinating input from the books too!!