Tis the season of throwing s#$% against the wall

Florio is a douchebag. Whether he's right on this or not, I have zero idea.

@"StickyBun" said: Florio is a douchebag. Whether he's right on this or not, I have zero idea.

I mean I'm not a fan but so much is out there. I just want it over either way.

@"Vikergirl" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Florio is a douchebag. Whether he's right on this or not, I have zero idea.

I mean I'm not a fan but so much is out there. I just want it over either way.

Oh I totally agree. At this point, I am fine with him moving on, they have to move on from him at some point. Sometimes you have to go backwards to go forward 

the age doesnt frighten me, the injury at that age does...It'll be interesting in a few years to look back at Kirko and Rogers and see if we learned anything new about these injuries - at least with older QB's.

I am slowly preparing myself for having to take a big step back @ QB play in 24. I mean if they were going to have a deal, you would think it would be b4 the legal tampering period. 

I only hope this franchise's terrible history with QB's wont continue on a forward basis. I spend too much of my time and $ on season tix for that. 

@"StickyBun" said:

@"Vikergirl" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Florio is a douchebag. Whether he's right on this or not, I have zero idea.

I mean I'm not a fan but so much is out there. I just want it over either way.

Cousin's agent is working it. Manufacturing or exaggerating Atlanta's interest or the interest is very real. All part of the game. Its very obvious Minnesota is not going to give in and be held over a barrel again. 

I really like Cousins. But if he doesn't see the value in familiarity, a solid organization that cares about him and weapons on offense for a hometown discount (whether that's dollars or lesser guarantees....and my guess the sticking point definitely IS guarantees) than a 36 year old coming off injury should go ahead and see how green the grass is outside the fence. KAM didn't lock up Cousins yet for a reason. It wasn't negligence, stupidity or naiveté: it was strategic. 

I guarantee you Baker Mayfield and his agent are watching what is going on in Minnesota very intensely.

I'd be more surprised if Kirk was NOT looking for houses in Atlanta. If I were interviewing there, I would be too. But nothing has yet been offered or signed. And I really do think Kirk will give Minnesota a chance to match or beat their offer. 

Problem is, I don't see Kwesi matching it. I think Atlanta knows how incredibly rare good QBs are and they won't even blink at 3 years, while Kwesi is much more focused on his long-term financial vision. 

Atlanta just makes too much sense for Kirk considering the factors, if Atlanta is really interested and not just positioning for a Fields trade, I would say it is the most likely where he ends up

Consider family has always been far and away the number one priority for Kirk, his wife is from the Atlanta area and her parents still live there, Kirk's long time trainer since 2010 is in Atlanta, Kirk's parents are in Florida, where Kirk has spent a good part of the off seasons.  

I am ready to move on and ignore what Kirk is doing.

if, by chance, we can’t grab one of the top four QBs in to draft, then I say draft to rebuild the team.

People keep sayin but if all of the top four are gone, then what.  I say, screw it,and higher a short term bridge QB for 2024 (maybe 2025) and start rebuilding the house.

I am not afraid of a bad year, in fact it helps us grab the QB down the road.  Stop screwing around or we will end up in fourth place in the North behind three teams that already rebuilt

I'll believe Cousins leaves when I see it.  If Kirk doesn't stay, then FU Cousins.  You'll be a very rich man, but never the elite QB teams are looking for.

I see everything right now as smoke and mirrors from agents, team PR divisions, and from "reporters" trying to earn their word-count paychecks. You notice how little concrete ANYTHING is from an actual player or team...especially in the case of Kirk and the Vikings? Both have said they hope to work things out, both have said they understand it's a business, and that's...it.

Everything else is bibble-babble from "sources".

I hope he stays, I think the emerging o-line and defense could finally put a team around him that would have balance; previously, this would actually be a first for him in Purple. If he goes, I know he'll be classy about it and, like Teddy, TJack, and others before, I'll wish him well as long as he's not playing against us.

As far as everything bubbling up on the sites, now? Show me the "sources", or spare me.

Arthur Blank will be 82 this September.  He isn't wasting time with Justin Fields, or telling his people "let's try another rookie cuz I figure I'll live forever."  He has a team with a lot of talent in a weak division.  They were in a lot of games last year until Desmond Ridder took them out of them.  I would say it's pretty likely that the rumor he wants Kirk is true.

@"ThunderGod" said: I am ready to move on and ignore what Kirk is doing.

if, by chance, we can’t grab one of the top four QBs in to draft, then I say draft to rebuild the team.

People keep sayin but if all of the top four are gone, then what.  I say, screw it,and higher a short term bridge QB for 2024 (maybe 2025) and start rebuilding the house.

I am not afraid of a bad year, in fact it helps us grab the QB down the road.  Stop screwing around or we will end up in fourth place in the North behind three teams that already rebuilt.

It's not even clear who the "top 4" are. This is true every year as qbs get drafted way high and have careers that fizzle.

I think Penix is the best prospect in this draft and he will probably be available at 11. What the Vikings think or plan to do, I have no idea.

Offseason speculation is part of the NFL "entertainment" experience.  I don't know why people get so upset about prognosticators or media during this time.  Stop taking everything so serious like it is an affront just try and enjoy and speculate yourself.  

@"minny65" said: Offseason speculation is part of the NFL "entertainment" experience.  I don't know why people get so upset about prognosticators or media during this time.  Stop taking everything so serious like it is an affront just try and enjoy and speculate yourself.  

The people getting riled up and saying mean things about players based on rumors and comments released for negotiating purposes are nuts.

@"minny65" said: Offseason speculation is part of the NFL "entertainment" experience.  I don't know why people get so upset about prognosticators or media during this time.  Stop taking everything so serious like it is an affront just try and enjoy and speculate yourself.  

This. The level of anger directed at Cousins on Twitter for not being willing to take a "team-friendly" deal is the most idiotic. He was never going to take a team friendly deal. Under-market due to the injury? Sure. But a top 6 to 7, 35-year old QB is not going to take a significantly-under-market deal if he doesn't have to...if he's got a market, and it's clear he does. 

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"minny65" said: Offseason speculation is part of the NFL "entertainment" experience.  I don't know why people get so upset about prognosticators or media during this time.  Stop taking everything so serious like it is an affront just try and enjoy and speculate yourself.  

This. The level of anger directed at Cousins on Twitter for not being willing to take a "team-friendly" deal is the most idiotic. He was never going to take a team friendly deal. Under-market due to the injury? Sure. But a top 6 to 7, 35-year old QB is not going to take a significantly-under-market deal if he doesn't have to...if he's got a market, and it's clear he does. 

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"minny65" said: Offseason speculation is part of the NFL "entertainment" experience.  I don't know why people get so upset about prognosticators or media during this time.  Stop taking everything so serious like it is an affront just try and enjoy and speculate yourself.  

This. The level of anger directed at Cousins on Twitter for not being willing to take a "team-friendly" deal is the most idiotic. He was never going to take a team friendly deal. Under-market due to the injury? Sure. But a top 6 to 7, 35-year old QB is not going to take a significantly-under-market deal if he doesn't have to...if he's got a market, and it's clear he does. 

Now that Evans reupped w/ Tampa, Baker probably resigns, & they then tag Winfield. Not sure why Mayfield woldn’t stay there…

Kwesi and KOC won't get fired if they sign Kirk again unless he gets injured again and things go South.
Any other direction and their futures become less secure.
Instead of 3 years, I think they will offer a boatload of money for 2.