NFL Draft Talk
Thought we could make a general draft discussion thread with the Combine approaching. Just a few pre combine thoughts I had while digging in on some early evaluations;
- There could be as many as 7 cornerbacks going in the 1st round. While I don't see any elite, Patrick Surtain type's, the position is deep and talented. I'd be pretty upset if the Vikings took a cornerback, but there will be some talented corners still on the board when our pick comes up.
- I absolutely love this group of linebackers. Drew Sanders, Noah Sewell, and the Simpson kid from Clemson all look like really good prospects who offer some scheme flexibility. Hicks won't be back for us and they still have a decision to make on Kendricks. It's possible all 3 of these guys are still on the board at #23 and would be really good picks.
- I've got Jalin Hyatt as my #1 WR in this class. He would be an absolute home run pick for us and give us a deep threat dimension this offense is sorely lacking. I'm going to be very curious how teams separate Johnston, Addison, Zay Flowers, and Smith-Njigba after that.
- Not a great crop of defensive lineman. I think we can find some scheme specific bodies with our mid round picks but otherwise need to be active in free agency. We are going to continue running this crap 3-4 and IMO all three down lineman positions need to be upgraded. A couple guys I'll be watching at the combine are Ika the nose tackle from Baylor (LSU transfer), Gervon Baxter from Florida, and Keeanu Benton from Wisconsin. All bigger bodies that fit our scheme and to me defensive line is the biggest position of need on this roster.
- My early overrated list: Tyree Wilson, Myles Murphy, Bryan Bresee, and Paris Johnson.
- I'd be shocked to see the Vikings draft a QB. If we trade down and add more picks, then taking someone like Hendon Hooker and stashing him away for a year makes a lot of sense. I think it's far more likely we add a Sam Darnold in free agency or trade for someone like Zac Wilson on the low end.
I've never been big on this guy and this kind of cemented it..
Somewhat disappointing day for TCU WR Quenton Johnston at the Frogs’ pro day. Expected to blow people away with a 4.4 type 40-clocking, the times reported for Johnston were all in the 4.50 range – and that’s the unofficial time – suggesting that he actually may have timed closer to 4.55 or even 4.60. Johnston also had a couple of drops on the day. The buzz around the league, though, at least for the moment is that teams know how fast he plays and combine that with his size (6-3, 212) he still figures to be in the mix to be the first receiver off the board next month. Also note that Bill Belichek was there from New England and the receiver-needy Patriots have the 14th pick, as was Green Bay GM Brian Gutehurst, whose WR-needy Packers pick 15th. Of course, it wouldn’t be a major WR workout this year if the Giants didn’t take the guy to dinner the night before, which they did!
https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/03/31/anthony-richardson-high-upside-risk-seahawks-lions-draft-qb-prospect
@"StickyBun" said: https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/03/31/anthony-richardson-high-upside-risk-seahawks-lions-draft-qb-prospectLots of chatter after his Pro Day that his floor would be 5th to the Seahawks. Orlovsky thinks he is in the mix to be the top overall pick to Carolina. I still think someone trades up with Arizona #3 and QB's are the first 4 picks of the draft, unless it's Indy that moves into thar spot. Regardless the top 4 QB's should go early
@"supafreak84" said:Agreed.@"StickyBun" said: https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/03/31/anthony-richardson-high-upside-risk-seahawks-lions-draft-qb-prospect Lots of chatter after his Pro Day that his floor would be 5th to the Seahawks. Orlovsky thinks he is in the mix to be the top overall pick to Carolina. I still think someone trades up with Arizona #3 and QB's are the first 4 picks of the draft, unless it's Indy that moves into thar spot. Regardless the top 4 QB's should go early
@"supafreak84" said: I've never been big on this guy and this kind of cemented it..Somewhat disappointing day for TCU WR Quenton Johnston at the Frogs’ pro day. Expected to blow people away with a 4.4 type 40-clocking, the times reported for Johnston were all in the 4.50 range – and that’s the unofficial time – suggesting that he actually may have timed closer to 4.55 or even 4.60. Johnston also had a couple of drops on the day. The buzz around the league, though, at least for the moment is that teams know how fast he plays and combine that with his size (6-3, 212) he still figures to be in the mix to be the first receiver off the board next month. Also note that Bill Belichek was there from New England and the receiver-needy Patriots have the 14th pick, as was Green Bay GM Brian Gutehurst, whose WR-needy Packers pick 15th. Of course, it wouldn’t be a major WR workout this year if the Giants didn’t take the guy to dinner the night before, which they did!
Gimme fast on tape over combine and pro days. Lots of people are blazing fast on a watch, but put pads on and some live hitting and they aren't so special. I've never seen a snap this kid has played, but if he looks good on game film and he was playing against good talent, that means a lot more than how slow he might have ran in the circus like whirlwind of pre draft workouts.
@"JimmyinSD" said:@"supafreak84" said: I've never been big on this guy and this kind of cemented it..Somewhat disappointing day for TCU WR Quenton Johnston at the Frogs’ pro day. Expected to blow people away with a 4.4 type 40-clocking, the times reported for Johnston were all in the 4.50 range – and that’s the unofficial time – suggesting that he actually may have timed closer to 4.55 or even 4.60. Johnston also had a couple of drops on the day. The buzz around the league, though, at least for the moment is that teams know how fast he plays and combine that with his size (6-3, 212) he still figures to be in the mix to be the first receiver off the board next month. Also note that Bill Belichek was there from New England and the receiver-needy Patriots have the 14th pick, as was Green Bay GM Brian Gutehurst, whose WR-needy Packers pick 15th. Of course, it wouldn’t be a major WR workout this year if the Giants didn’t take the guy to dinner the night before, which they did!
Gimme fast on tape over combine and pro days. Lots of people are blazing fast on a watch, but put pads on and some live hitting and they aren't so special. I've never seen a snap this kid has played, but if he looks good on game film and he was playing against good talent, that means a lot more than how slow he might have ran in the circus like whirlwind of pre draft workouts.
He's 6-3, 212. His pro day times varied between 4.46 and 4.52, which is not slow at all.
@"supafreak84" said:Compare to '22 QB draft class where the only one looking to be worth a crap is Mr. Irrelevant.@"jargomcfargo" said: Love that Ponder smile and why not? That smile says, yeah I got a wife who will make more money, last longer in professional football, and never take a hit. I'd be smiling too! It sucks Ponder was a bust, but that entire QB draft class was a bust outside of Cam Newton who was the top overall pick and had major concerns himself coming in. Jake Locker, Gabbert, Andy Dalton, and Kaepernick. Just land mines everywhere. I wanted Mike Pouncey that year as we had a major need along the interior of our offensive line. I don't fault Rick for taking a swing at a QB and Ponder had a lot of good qualities coming in, but Bill Musgrave got ahold of him and the rest in history. Rick rebounded though in the second round taking Kyle Rudolph who turned into the greatest TE in team history and if we hypothetically had swapped the draft positions of Ponder and Rudolph, I don't think you'd get the same amount of vinegar relating to the pick.
@"JimmyinSD" said:@"supafreak84" said: I've never been big on this guy and this kind of cemented it..Somewhat disappointing day for TCU WR Quenton Johnston at the Frogs’ pro day. Expected to blow people away with a 4.4 type 40-clocking, the times reported for Johnston were all in the 4.50 range – and that’s the unofficial time – suggesting that he actually may have timed closer to 4.55 or even 4.60. Johnston also had a couple of drops on the day. The buzz around the league, though, at least for the moment is that teams know how fast he plays and combine that with his size (6-3, 212) he still figures to be in the mix to be the first receiver off the board next month. Also note that Bill Belichek was there from New England and the receiver-needy Patriots have the 14th pick, as was Green Bay GM Brian Gutehurst, whose WR-needy Packers pick 15th. Of course, it wouldn’t be a major WR workout this year if the Giants didn’t take the guy to dinner the night before, which they did!
Gimme fast on tape over combine and pro days. Lots of people are blazing fast on a watch, but put pads on and some live hitting and they aren't so special. I've never seen a snap this kid has played, but if he looks good on game film and he was playing against good talent, that means a lot more than how slow he might have ran in the circus like whirlwind of pre draft workouts.
I agree which is why I still like Jaylin Hyatt the best out of this WR class. It's real speed that pops on tape and his production was against SEC competition. I don't think Johnston looks fast on tape and the 40 time kind of confirmed that. Kelee Ringo shut his ass down in the National Championship game, 1 catch for 3 yards. Reminds me of Kevin White coming out of West Virginia.
I’ve finished my review of potential QB’s I would take in round 1.
Only 1 emerged at our selection for me and that is Hendon Hooker. I wouldn’t touch Levis - the risk is too high. Tape on Hooker screams 1st round pick, but he’s recovering from injury and a little older. The Vikings will get the perfect guy for the future with Hooker!
@"Havoc1649" said: I’ve finished my review of potential QB’s I would take in round 1.Only 1 emerged at our selection for me and that is Hendon Hooker. I wouldn’t touch Levis - the risk is too high. Tape on Hooker screams 1st round pick, but he’s recovering from injury and a little older. The Vikings will get the perfect guy for the future with Hooker!
I think you are spot on here. That is my gut feeling.
@"Havoc1649" said: I’ve finished my review of potential QB’s I would take in round 1.Only 1 emerged at our selection for me and that is Hendon Hooker. I wouldn’t touch Levis - the risk is too high. Tape on Hooker screams 1st round pick, but he’s recovering from injury and a little older. The Vikings will get the perfect guy for the future with Hooker!
After reading someone's run down of teams likely looking at QB yesterday it seems unlikely that we can stay at 23 and get Hooker. I too liked a lot about his game, but I would have liked to see him look off the safeties more, he seems to have his target predetermined on many throws and will often lock on early. Also suggests that he didn't work through progressions very often. My biggest concern on Hooker is he just a good athlete in a QB friendly system.
@"JimmyinSD" said:@"Havoc1649" said: I’ve finished my review of potential QB’s I would take in round 1.Only 1 emerged at our selection for me and that is Hendon Hooker. I wouldn’t touch Levis - the risk is too high. Tape on Hooker screams 1st round pick, but he’s recovering from injury and a little older. The Vikings will get the perfect guy for the future with Hooker!
After reading someone's run down of teams likely looking at QB yesterday it seems unlikely that we can stay at 23 and get Hooker. I too liked a lot about his game, but I would have liked to see him look off the safeties more, he seems to have his target predetermined on many throws and will often lock on early. Also suggests that he didn't work through progressions very often. My biggest concern on Hooker is he just a good athlete in a QB friendly system.
Agreed, I dont think he drops to 23, which is kinda crazy imo.It'll be interesting to see how/if this team deals with QB this year.
@"purplefaithful" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:@"Havoc1649" said: I’ve finished my review of potential QB’s I would take in round 1.Only 1 emerged at our selection for me and that is Hendon Hooker. I wouldn’t touch Levis - the risk is too high. Tape on Hooker screams 1st round pick, but he’s recovering from injury and a little older. The Vikings will get the perfect guy for the future with Hooker!
After reading someone's run down of teams likely looking at QB yesterday it seems unlikely that we can stay at 23 and get Hooker. I too liked a lot about his game, but I would have liked to see him look off the safeties more, he seems to have his target predetermined on many throws and will often lock on early. Also suggests that he didn't work through progressions very often. My biggest concern on Hooker is he just a good athlete in a QB friendly system.
Agreed, I dont think he drops to 23, which is kinda crazy imo.It'll be interesting to see how/if this team deals with QB this year.
I have a question that I don't see others brining up. Let's say we draft Hooker, or someone like DTR in the 3rd/4th, why couldn't we tag Cousins for a year if the QB we take isn't quite ready? I know Kirk could refuse to sign, but he really wouldn't have any leverage. Does the limit of 4 tags on a player apply to Cousin's since he was with the Redskins? Does it carry over wherever he plays?
@"Havoc1649" said: I’ve finished my review of potential QB’s I would take in round 1.Only 1 emerged at our selection for me and that is Hendon Hooker. I wouldn’t touch Levis - the risk is too high. Tape on Hooker screams 1st round pick, but he’s recovering from injury and a little older. The Vikings will get the perfect guy for the future with Hooker!
That's a good evaluation but I think it is very probable that he will be there in round two. We just need to maneuver to get him.
@"TBro" said:@"purplefaithful" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:@"Havoc1649" said: I’ve finished my review of potential QB’s I would take in round 1.Only 1 emerged at our selection for me and that is Hendon Hooker. I wouldn’t touch Levis - the risk is too high. Tape on Hooker screams 1st round pick, but he’s recovering from injury and a little older. The Vikings will get the perfect guy for the future with Hooker!
After reading someone's run down of teams likely looking at QB yesterday it seems unlikely that we can stay at 23 and get Hooker. I too liked a lot about his game, but I would have liked to see him look off the safeties more, he seems to have his target predetermined on many throws and will often lock on early. Also suggests that he didn't work through progressions very often. My biggest concern on Hooker is he just a good athlete in a QB friendly system.
Agreed, I dont think he drops to 23, which is kinda crazy imo.It'll be interesting to see how/if this team deals with QB this year.
I have a question that I don't see others brining up. Let's say we draft Hooker, or someone like DTR in the 3rd/4th, why couldn't we tag Cousins for a year if the QB we take isn't quite ready? I know Kirk could refuse to sign, but he really wouldn't have any leverage. Does the limit of 4 tags on a player apply to Cousin's since he was with the Redskins? Does it carry over wherever he plays?
I believe I read that it does follow the player.
@"JimmyinSD" said:@"TBro" said:@"purplefaithful" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:@"Havoc1649" said: I’ve finished my review of potential QB’s I would take in round 1.Only 1 emerged at our selection for me and that is Hendon Hooker. I wouldn’t touch Levis - the risk is too high. Tape on Hooker screams 1st round pick, but he’s recovering from injury and a little older. The Vikings will get the perfect guy for the future with Hooker!
After reading someone's run down of teams likely looking at QB yesterday it seems unlikely that we can stay at 23 and get Hooker. I too liked a lot about his game, but I would have liked to see him look off the safeties more, he seems to have his target predetermined on many throws and will often lock on early. Also suggests that he didn't work through progressions very often. My biggest concern on Hooker is he just a good athlete in a QB friendly system.
Agreed, I dont think he drops to 23, which is kinda crazy imo.It'll be interesting to see how/if this team deals with QB this year.
I have a question that I don't see others brining up. Let's say we draft Hooker, or someone like DTR in the 3rd/4th, why couldn't we tag Cousins for a year if the QB we take isn't quite ready? I know Kirk could refuse to sign, but he really wouldn't have any leverage. Does the limit of 4 tags on a player apply to Cousin's since he was with the Redskins? Does it carry over wherever he plays?
I believe I read that it does follow the player.
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"TBro" said:
@"purplefaithful" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Havoc1649" said:
I’ve finished my review of potential QB’s I would take in round 1.Only 1 emerged at our selection for me and that is Hendon Hooker. I wouldn’t touch Levis - the risk is too high. Tape on Hooker screams 1st round pick, but he’s recovering from injury and a little older. The Vikings will get the perfect guy for the future with Hooker!
After reading someone's run down of teams likely looking at QB yesterday it seems unlikely that we can stay at 23 and get Hooker. I too liked a lot about his game, but I would have liked to see him look off the safeties more, he seems to have his target predetermined on many throws and will often lock on early. Also suggests that he didn't work through progressions very often. My biggest concern on Hooker is he just a good athlete in a QB friendly system.
Agreed, I dont think he drops to 23, which is kinda crazy imo.It'll be interesting to see how/if this team deals with QB this year.
I have a question that I don't see others brining up. Let's say we draft Hooker, or someone like DTR in the 3rd/4th, why couldn't we tag Cousins for a year if the QB we take isn't quite ready? I know Kirk could refuse to sign, but he really wouldn't have any leverage. Does the limit of 4 tags on a player apply to Cousin's since he was with the Redskins? Does it carry over wherever he plays?
I believe I read that it does follow the player.
I dug a little deeper. You are correct. The third tag on Cousins would cost the Vikings over $50 Million.
One player that will be highly spoken about is G. Dexter from Florida. I seriously doubt he will make it to our 3rd round pick but you never know.
@"TBro" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:@"TBro" said:@"purplefaithful" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:@"Havoc1649" said: I’ve finished my review of potential QB’s I would take in round 1.Only 1 emerged at our selection for me and that is Hendon Hooker. I wouldn’t touch Levis - the risk is too high. Tape on Hooker screams 1st round pick, but he’s recovering from injury and a little older. The Vikings will get the perfect guy for the future with Hooker!
After reading someone's run down of teams likely looking at QB yesterday it seems unlikely that we can stay at 23 and get Hooker. I too liked a lot about his game, but I would have liked to see him look off the safeties more, he seems to have his target predetermined on many throws and will often lock on early. Also suggests that he didn't work through progressions very often. My biggest concern on Hooker is he just a good athlete in a QB friendly system.
Agreed, I dont think he drops to 23, which is kinda crazy imo.It'll be interesting to see how/if this team deals with QB this year.
I have a question that I don't see others brining up. Let's say we draft Hooker, or someone like DTR in the 3rd/4th, why couldn't we tag Cousins for a year if the QB we take isn't quite ready? I know Kirk could refuse to sign, but he really wouldn't have any leverage. Does the limit of 4 tags on a player apply to Cousin's since he was with the Redskins? Does it carry over wherever he plays?
I believe I read that it does follow the player.
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"TBro" said:
@"purplefaithful" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Havoc1649" said:
I’ve finished my review of potential QB’s I would take in round 1.Only 1 emerged at our selection for me and that is Hendon Hooker. I wouldn’t touch Levis - the risk is too high. Tape on Hooker screams 1st round pick, but he’s recovering from injury and a little older. The Vikings will get the perfect guy for the future with Hooker!
After reading someone's run down of teams likely looking at QB yesterday it seems unlikely that we can stay at 23 and get Hooker. I too liked a lot about his game, but I would have liked to see him look off the safeties more, he seems to have his target predetermined on many throws and will often lock on early. Also suggests that he didn't work through progressions very often. My biggest concern on Hooker is he just a good athlete in a QB friendly system.
Agreed, I dont think he drops to 23, which is kinda crazy imo.It'll be interesting to see how/if this team deals with QB this year.
I have a question that I don't see others brining up. Let's say we draft Hooker, or someone like DTR in the 3rd/4th, why couldn't we tag Cousins for a year if the QB we take isn't quite ready? I know Kirk could refuse to sign, but he really wouldn't have any leverage. Does the limit of 4 tags on a player apply to Cousin's since he was with the Redskins? Does it carry over wherever he plays?
I believe I read that it does follow the player.
I dug a little deeper. You are correct. The third tag on Cousins would cost the Vikings over $50 Million.
When they decided to let Cousins play out his contract instead of extending him again, it seemed to me, they didn't feel they could field a championship caliber team without the benefit of a QB on a rookie contract. They are cap strapped and draft capital poor.
Unfortunate for Cousins who has played well, but never had the team around him to go the distance. It was always rumored, Shanahan wanted him in SF; and in reality, they had the team where he may have had a lot more success. Look what Purdy, and even Jimmy G did. Would they have done as well as Cousins if they were in Minnesota?
The Vikings are moving on from Cousins after this year. Their competitive rebuild will be given a jump start once they are out from under the expensive QB salary.
The previous regime tried their best, but left the current front office in a tough spot. To no fault of his own, bringing in Cousins, wasn't the final piece of the puzzle. Now it's time to pay up.If he wins the Superbowl, he's worth $50 million. If not, he's gone.
@"jargomcfargo" said:@"TBro" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:@"TBro" said:@"purplefaithful" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:@"Havoc1649" said: I’ve finished my review of potential QB’s I would take in round 1.Only 1 emerged at our selection for me and that is Hendon Hooker. I wouldn’t touch Levis - the risk is too high. Tape on Hooker screams 1st round pick, but he’s recovering from injury and a little older. The Vikings will get the perfect guy for the future with Hooker!
After reading someone's run down of teams likely looking at QB yesterday it seems unlikely that we can stay at 23 and get Hooker. I too liked a lot about his game, but I would have liked to see him look off the safeties more, he seems to have his target predetermined on many throws and will often lock on early. Also suggests that he didn't work through progressions very often. My biggest concern on Hooker is he just a good athlete in a QB friendly system.
Agreed, I dont think he drops to 23, which is kinda crazy imo.It'll be interesting to see how/if this team deals with QB this year.
I have a question that I don't see others brining up. Let's say we draft Hooker, or someone like DTR in the 3rd/4th, why couldn't we tag Cousins for a year if the QB we take isn't quite ready? I know Kirk could refuse to sign, but he really wouldn't have any leverage. Does the limit of 4 tags on a player apply to Cousin's since he was with the Redskins? Does it carry over wherever he plays?
I believe I read that it does follow the player.
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"TBro" said:
@"purplefaithful" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Havoc1649" said:
I’ve finished my review of potential QB’s I would take in round 1.Only 1 emerged at our selection for me and that is Hendon Hooker. I wouldn’t touch Levis - the risk is too high. Tape on Hooker screams 1st round pick, but he’s recovering from injury and a little older. The Vikings will get the perfect guy for the future with Hooker!
After reading someone's run down of teams likely looking at QB yesterday it seems unlikely that we can stay at 23 and get Hooker. I too liked a lot about his game, but I would have liked to see him look off the safeties more, he seems to have his target predetermined on many throws and will often lock on early. Also suggests that he didn't work through progressions very often. My biggest concern on Hooker is he just a good athlete in a QB friendly system.
Agreed, I dont think he drops to 23, which is kinda crazy imo.It'll be interesting to see how/if this team deals with QB this year.
I have a question that I don't see others brining up. Let's say we draft Hooker, or someone like DTR in the 3rd/4th, why couldn't we tag Cousins for a year if the QB we take isn't quite ready? I know Kirk could refuse to sign, but he really wouldn't have any leverage. Does the limit of 4 tags on a player apply to Cousin's since he was with the Redskins? Does it carry over wherever he plays?
I believe I read that it does follow the player.
I dug a little deeper. You are correct. The third tag on Cousins would cost the Vikings over $50 Million.
When they decided to let Cousins play out his contract instead of extending him again, it seemed to me, they didn't feel they could field a championship caliber team without the benefit of a QB on a rookie contract. They are cap strapped and draft capital poor.
Unfortunate for Cousins who has played well, but never had the team around him to go the distance. It was always rumored, Shanahan wanted him in SF; and in reality, they had the team where he may have had a lot more success. Look what Purdy, and even Jimmy G did. Would they have done as well as Cousins if they were in Minnesota?
The Vikings are moving on from Cousins after this year. Their competitive rebuild will be given a jump start once they are out from under the expensive QB salary.
The previous regime tried their best, but left the current front office in a tough spot. To no fault of his own, bringing in Cousins, wasn't the final piece of the puzzle. Now it's time to pay up.If he wins the Superbowl, he's worth $50 million. If not, he's gone.
Agree with most everything except the 50 million part, until the cap is over 300M I don't see even 45 million a year for any player, even QB being sustainable. Sure you would likely be more willing to play kick the can for the right special player, but you will he doing it at the expense of future success and possibly the quality of other positions, which is how we got to where we are now.
@"jargomcfargo" said:@"TBro" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:@"TBro" said:@"purplefaithful" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:@"Havoc1649" said: I’ve finished my review of potential QB’s I would take in round 1.Only 1 emerged at our selection for me and that is Hendon Hooker. I wouldn’t touch Levis - the risk is too high. Tape on Hooker screams 1st round pick, but he’s recovering from injury and a little older. The Vikings will get the perfect guy for the future with Hooker!
After reading someone's run down of teams likely looking at QB yesterday it seems unlikely that we can stay at 23 and get Hooker. I too liked a lot about his game, but I would have liked to see him look off the safeties more, he seems to have his target predetermined on many throws and will often lock on early. Also suggests that he didn't work through progressions very often. My biggest concern on Hooker is he just a good athlete in a QB friendly system.
Agreed, I dont think he drops to 23, which is kinda crazy imo.It'll be interesting to see how/if this team deals with QB this year.
I have a question that I don't see others brining up. Let's say we draft Hooker, or someone like DTR in the 3rd/4th, why couldn't we tag Cousins for a year if the QB we take isn't quite ready? I know Kirk could refuse to sign, but he really wouldn't have any leverage. Does the limit of 4 tags on a player apply to Cousin's since he was with the Redskins? Does it carry over wherever he plays?
I believe I read that it does follow the player.
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"TBro" said:
@"purplefaithful" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Havoc1649" said:
I’ve finished my review of potential QB’s I would take in round 1.Only 1 emerged at our selection for me and that is Hendon Hooker. I wouldn’t touch Levis - the risk is too high. Tape on Hooker screams 1st round pick, but he’s recovering from injury and a little older. The Vikings will get the perfect guy for the future with Hooker!
After reading someone's run down of teams likely looking at QB yesterday it seems unlikely that we can stay at 23 and get Hooker. I too liked a lot about his game, but I would have liked to see him look off the safeties more, he seems to have his target predetermined on many throws and will often lock on early. Also suggests that he didn't work through progressions very often. My biggest concern on Hooker is he just a good athlete in a QB friendly system.
Agreed, I dont think he drops to 23, which is kinda crazy imo.It'll be interesting to see how/if this team deals with QB this year.
I have a question that I don't see others brining up. Let's say we draft Hooker, or someone like DTR in the 3rd/4th, why couldn't we tag Cousins for a year if the QB we take isn't quite ready? I know Kirk could refuse to sign, but he really wouldn't have any leverage. Does the limit of 4 tags on a player apply to Cousin's since he was with the Redskins? Does it carry over wherever he plays?
I believe I read that it does follow the player.
I dug a little deeper. You are correct. The third tag on Cousins would cost the Vikings over $50 Million.
When they decided to let Cousins play out his contract instead of extending him again, it seemed to me, they didn't feel they could field a championship caliber team without the benefit of a QB on a rookie contract. They are cap strapped and draft capital poor.
Unfortunate for Cousins who has played well, but never had the team around him to go the distance. It was always rumored, Shanahan wanted him in SF; and in reality, they had the team where he may have had a lot more success. Look what Purdy, and even Jimmy G did. Would they have done as well as Cousins if they were in Minnesota?
The Vikings are moving on from Cousins after this year. Their competitive rebuild will be given a jump start once they are out from under the expensive QB salary.
The previous regime tried their best, but left the current front office in a tough spot. To no fault of his own, bringing in Cousins, wasn't the final piece of the puzzle. Now it's time to pay up.If he wins the Superbowl, he's worth $50 million. If not, he's gone.
He doesn't have to win the Superbowl, just get us there.
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