Kwesi Fired...

MAD GAINZ wrote:

It was reported that KOC wanted more say in personnel when they were negotiating a new contract last off-season.  Maybe this has been brewing where some of the decisions from the FO weren't aligned with the Head Coach/coaching staff.  Gotta think letting Darnold and Daniel Jones walk may have something to do with it.

So I heard last year that KOC wasn't a massive fan of KAM. I think we're going to start hearing some stuff now about his incompetence in a real way, let the stories come out....

Kwesi butchered the draft in 2022 ,he'd been playing from behind ever since.

Free agency class of 2024 helped but the draft whiffs and the back up QB situation 2025 cooked him.

The timing of all this is deliberate, so what's the advantage?

I read an article a couple of days ago (can't remember where to be honest) where Kwesi was being interviewed and was asked about his thoughts on Darnold being the starting QB in the Super Bowl and his response was pretty nonchalant. Instead of complimenting Darnold on a great season, he said something along the lines of 'you make plans based on what you visualise and sometimes those plans just don't work out as you thought they would'. I didn't really think much of the article, but now after his being fired (which I am glad happened), it is clear that running JJ out with no clear back-up plan and cutting ties with Darnold was mostly or solely his plan, and it backfired. The way it was written sure seemed to imply, a kinda of, 'oh well, it just didn't work out there' attitude with no gravitas. Some other things are making sense now in hindsight, like KOC coming out and saying, after a long stint on the bench with an "injury", when JJ came back, he suddenly had "footwork" issues that needed to be corrected. Most coaches it seems, want their young QB's to get game time experience to shorten the learning curve and let them see if the guy has "it" or not. It seemed like JJ was wrapped in bubble wrap most of the season. I am not a big fan of JJ to date, but to be fair, more time (game experience) is needed. I do wish he would ditch the lame "9" alter-ego. This isn't high school ball. I digress, I was shocked when the Wilf's extended Kwesi, but happy to see that despite the extension, they had seen enough and reversed to make the right decision. Grigson should be next. Sounds like we will be hearing more soon on all of this drama, but count me happy that at least he is done with the Vikings.

From Dianna Russini….yet she never reported it, lol. This chick is something else…

‘This may surprise much of the NFL world, but around the league, Minnesota making this move was widely anticipated.‘

To that point from Pro Football Talk:

There's gonna be plenty of people who never breathed a word about issues in the Minnesota front office acting like they knew all along.

I am listening to this press conference and something feels off to me. KAM is the scapegoat for now but now KOC has no cover whatsoever. It's time to put up or shut up

supafreak84 wrote:


What the hell are the Wilfs doing!? Again, they make some of the shittiest football decisions I've ever witnessed. They are awful

Dude, no matter what they do you hate it.

KOC to the press:

ArizonaViking wrote:

Supa, please step away from the ledge, take a deep breath and let's wait and see what the rest of the fallout looks like.

There's no ledge. I've been vindicated from all the shit I took from several on this board who fluffed poetic about this great "outside the box" Wallstreet hire when anybody who's paid attention to how the NFL actually works knew it was a shit hire that would end in disaster. Four years later....I was right, the Wilfs and several on this board were wrong, rinse and repeat..

For the record, I'm all in on McKay or Nolan Teasley from Seattle as our next GM and the sooner they come in and clean house, the better

supafreak84 wrote:

And it's ok, ya'll can say I was right about Kwesi

I will, you definitely were. The only reason I didn't think it would happen is because he signed an extension 7 months ago, lol. I think most on this board didn't care for KAM.

Chuckf wrote:

He is one of the best Cap Guru money men in the business, lets hope his skill set includes player evaluation.

The thing that catches my attention is this bypasses Grigson.

Well, we're going to find out if JJM was KOC's guy or not. The timing on this is telling, we just don't know why yet. Mark Wilf just had a presser.

I'm a little more optimistic about the draft now. Maybe we will hit on 20-25% of our picks instead of 6%

MaroonBells wrote:

We’re going to have to make our competition at QB decision 6 weeks before the draft. One of the biggest decisions we’ll make this year. And it will be done without a GM. And the new GM will be saddled with the consequences of that decision. Seems odd.

One guy should be making this decision and one guy only....and he will. See below:

JimmyinSD wrote:

he can barely handle the role he has now,  i think he needs to give up play calling and offensive control and focus on being a HC and game manager,  but now this is added to his plate,  I am expecting a total shit show.

I agree, but having the opportunity to select the players he wants to incorporate into his system has nothing to do with the rest of it. If you watch his reaction to when Kwesi drafted Turner, you know KOC wasn't making calls on which players to select.
The things you mention aren't relevant to the off season.
I would rather KOC, and Flores, have more say over which  players to select than Grigson.

MaroonBells wrote:

Which suggests he didn't already have a big role, which would surprise me if true.

It was a traditional system. The coach would collaberate and make suggestions, but the GM made the decisions.

MaroonBells wrote:


But wouldn't you be surprised to discover that KOC had no input on the Howell decision? I would be. I keep coming back to the idea that KAM wanted the QB on a rookie deal thing and KOC wanted Darnold. I mean, at the end of the day, that is the one big, glaring, embarrassing move with Darnold in the Super Bowl.

What if I told you that Howell wasn't KOC's deal? And what if I told you that KOC was really torn at the end between Uncle Sammy and his piece of clay in JJM....and he's not surprised at all by Darnold's success. It was a really tough spot and Sam wanted a commitment to be The Man or move on....because his agent knew that Seattle was all in on Darnold back in late December. 

Just sayin'.

lmao, have you seen all the rumors and ridiculous crap on X from 'sources' right now? Its tremendous. JJM was almost traded to the Raiders....KOC didn't think JJ was ready to play this year....KAM forced KOC's hand in every decision, etc. Hilarious. All the grifters and frauds are out in full force, spreading the manure. All this inside info they knew but for some reason waited until NOW to release! ;)

AGRforever wrote:


You think we'll be rolling with JJM, bringing in competition, or going after a new starter?

Literally, could be any of the 3 with various percentages of probability, some more likely than others. I think for sure competition is coming in, but to what level remains to be seen.

Vikergirl wrote:
I am listening to this press conference and something feels off to me. KAM is the scapegoat for now but now KOC has no cover whatsoever. It's time to put up or shut up

What feels off? Scapegoat for what? Kwesi sucked. Spent 300 mil on nothing. Didn't listen or take advice. He wasn't qualified to begin with.

Well damn, I skip this board one day and come back to a mushroom cloud.

With his draft record I'm not going to complain about his exit.  My question is: If we still have the same scouting department and Grigson, will changing the GM help the draft any? 

Don't anyone DARE say "It can't ..." (you know the rest but keep your damn mouths shut  :P )