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There's gonna be changes coming. 

Prayers.

I hope they cancel the game.

Take a moment, it's just a game.

### Update, Game Suspended for tonight.

#1 · Jan 2, 7:10 PM
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@"purplefaithful" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"purplefaithful" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"purplefaithful" said: these guys are in the 20's and 30's....Seeing something like that right b4 their eyes is pretty traumatic. 

Who here couldn't help but think about Big K through this?


Plenty of people at all ages that have never seen trauma, or medical emergencies up close,  its one of the things that makes being a first responder difficult is dealing with those that are looking on and seem to be in the way,  they havent experienced this type of stuff before and dont have the emotional calluses,  of course that goes both ways, sometimes people think responders are soulless or dont care,  but part of that is familiarity,  part is process ( making sure to focus on the patient,  not the loved ones) but part of it is for self preservation and to be able to do that job again tomorrow or when ever the bell rings again. 

by the way... if you are ever around an EMS situation..... please leave your phone in your pocket,  or at least dont press charges when a first responder smacks it out of your hands and brings a boot down on it.  nothing pisses me off more than  finding video or pictures of our calls on facebook or other.  personally I think posting that kind of shit should be illegal and people should be publicly flogged for taking and disseminating those types of things.



Yup, trauma hits all ages for sure...

Our EMS staffers have gone through so much the past few years and its still harder than heck for them.  I know you know this first hand too. 

Happy new year buddy and best wishes to you and your family in 23. 



you too brother!


Hit me up if you're coming to USB for a playoff game...


not likely,  but I certainly will if I decide to make that trek again.

#42 · Jan 3, 4:02 PM
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Anyone else think the NFL "wont try" and make up this game this late in the season? 

#43 · Jan 3, 4:37 PM
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@"purplefaithful" said: Anyone else think the NFL "wont try" and make up this game this late in the season? 


I dont know how they could if they didn't do it today. 

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#45 · Jan 3, 5:54 PM
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Promising news that Hamlin is now 50% on the ventilator and making improvements.  

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The window for commotio cordis  is about 20 milliseconds. 

The average age of commotio cordis is 13.9 years old.  

Usually a hockey puck or baseball  is involved in the accident.

Way too early to rule things in or rule things out.

#47 · Jan 3, 6:31 PM
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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"purplefaithful" said: these guys are in the 20's and 30's....Seeing something like that right b4 their eyes is pretty traumatic. 

Who here couldn't help but think about Big K through this?


Plenty of people at all ages that have never seen trauma, or medical emergencies up close,  its one of the things that makes being a first responder difficult is dealing with those that are looking on and seem to be in the way,  they havent experienced this type of stuff before and dont have the emotional calluses,  of course that goes both ways, sometimes people think responders are soulless or dont care,  but part of that is familiarity,  part is process ( making sure to focus on the patient,  not the loved ones) but part of it is for self preservation and to be able to do that job again tomorrow or when ever the bell rings again. 

by the way... if you are ever around an EMS situation..... please leave your phone in your pocket,  or at least dont press charges when a first responder smacks it out of your hands and brings a boot down on it.  nothing pisses me off more than  finding video or pictures of our calls on facebook or other.  personally I think posting that kind of shit should be illegal and people should be publicly flogged for taking and disseminating those types of things.



Plus we dont pay EMS enough to have to deal with onlookers shit. Help before they get there if you’re comfortable doing so. But when the troops arrive. Get out of their way. 

#48 · Jan 3, 6:32 PM
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Absolutely cannot agree more with the posts for EMTs - EMS
let them do their job, and stand the F back.  Someones trauma / fight for life is NOT A GODDAMN KODAK MOMENT.  Fucking ghouls.

Last season a player on the opposing team went down in a game, and they brought the ambulance onto the field - of course our boys took a knee....all except for a couple of “hot shots” who decided they wanted to take pictures of themselves on the sidelines throwing shakas.  I ripped them a new A-hole, Im not the HC, but if I was, those boys wouldnt have taken another snap. disgusting 

#49 · Jan 3, 8:59 PM
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@"Vanguard83" said: Absolutely cannot agree more with the posts for EMTs - EMS let them do their job, and stand the F back.  Someones trauma / fight for life is NOT A GODDAMN KODAK MOMENT.  Fucking ghouls.

Last season a player on the opposing team went down in a game, and they brought the ambulance onto the field - of course our boys took a knee....all except for a couple of “hot shots” who decided they wanted to take pictures of themselves on the sidelines throwing shakas.  I ripped them a new A-hole, Im not the HC, but if I was, those boys wouldnt have taken another snap. disgusting 


Spot on.  During an EMS situation, or filming someone getting beat on, robbed, or whatever.  The video cams on phones have revealed the soullessness of so many people.

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#51 · Jan 4, 12:21 PM
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@"AGRforever" said:
@"greediron" said:
@"AGRforever" said: So is there any word on what actually happened?  

The blow looks like it hit him more in the chest then the head to me?  Did the hot stop his heart?  


Looks like it.  They used the defib on him, and they are calling it a cardiac arrest.

1 in a million hit in the exact wrong spot at the exact wrong time.  I hope he ends up ok.  Other then in a hospital I'm not sure they could have been in a better place.  There had to have been dozens on both sides of the ball that knew what happened and acted as fast as possible.  Including having the equipment in place to do as much good as they could have. 

On to the game side.  I wonder what they're going to do for results?  Do they record it as a tie?  Or subtract it out and have the Bills and Bengals have a 16 game season?  Very interesting and I'm sure it'll have some sort of playoff implications. 



First off, prayers for Hamlin.  I’m encouraged to hear he’s showing some good signs for possible recovery.  That being said, you 100% buy in to the theory of how this happened while discounting the fact that this hasn’t happened in 50 years.  Meanwhile, young male athletes across Europe and in society as a whole continue to die from an exponential increase in heart attacks and strokes over the last two years.  You and others will choose to readily accept the first explanation that comes out as to the cause.  There are others that feel the cause lies elsewhere, but until all social media and media in general start to willingly report on all views, the questions will not only remain, they will continue to multiply, as they have.  

#52 · Jan 4, 7:22 PM
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@"Waterboy" said:First off, prayers for Hamlin.  I’m encouraged to hear he’s showing some good signs for possible recovery.  That being said, you 100% buy in to the theory of how this happened while discounting the fact that this hasn’t happened in 50 years.  Meanwhile, young male athletes across Europe and in society as a whole continue to die from an exponential increase in heart attacks and strokes over the last two years.  You and others will choose to readily accept the first explanation that comes out as to the cause.  There are others that feel the cause lies elsewhere, but until all social media and media in general start to willingly report on all views, the questions will not only remain, they will continue to multiply, as they have.  
You are complete embarrassment to this site, this fan base and society as a whole.  Take your BS and your trashy agenda out of here and over to some cult website where it belongs.  
#53 · Jan 4, 7:32 PM
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@"Waterboy" said:
@"AGRforever" said:
@"greediron" said:
@"AGRforever" said: So is there any word on what actually happened?  

The blow looks like it hit him more in the chest then the head to me?  Did the hot stop his heart?  


Looks like it.  They used the defib on him, and they are calling it a cardiac arrest.

1 in a million hit in the exact wrong spot at the exact wrong time.  I hope he ends up ok.  Other then in a hospital I'm not sure they could have been in a better place.  There had to have been dozens on both sides of the ball that knew what happened and acted as fast as possible.  Including having the equipment in place to do as much good as they could have. 

On to the game side.  I wonder what they're going to do for results?  Do they record it as a tie?  Or subtract it out and have the Bills and Bengals have a 16 game season?  Very interesting and I'm sure it'll have some sort of playoff implications. 



First off, prayers for Hamlin.  I’m encouraged to hear he’s showing some good signs for possible recovery.  That being said, you 100% buy in to the theory of how this happened while discounting the fact that this hasn’t happened in 50 years.  Meanwhile, young male athletes across Europe and in society as a whole continue to die from an exponential increase in heart attacks and strokes over the last two years.  You and others will choose to readily accept the first explanation that comes out as to the cause.  There are others that feel the cause lies elsewhere, but until all social media and media in general start to willingly report on all views, the questions will not only remain, they will continue to multiply, as they have.  


NOT THE PLACE FOR THIS DISCUSSION.  if you want to have this discussion, there is another board for that matter.  I asked you once to not try and do this here.  Now you cant.

#54 · Jan 4, 8:15 PM
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@"JR44" said:
@"Waterboy" said:First off, prayers for Hamlin.  I’m encouraged to hear he’s showing some good signs for possible recovery.  That being said, you 100% buy in to the theory of how this happened while discounting the fact that this hasn’t happened in 50 years.  Meanwhile, young male athletes across Europe and in society as a whole continue to die from an exponential increase in heart attacks and strokes over the last two years.  You and others will choose to readily accept the first explanation that comes out as to the cause.  There are others that feel the cause lies elsewhere, but until all social media and media in general start to willingly report on all views, the questions will not only remain, they will continue to multiply, as they have.  
You are complete embarrassment to this site, this fan base and society as a whole.  Take your BS and your trashy agenda out of here and over to some cult website where it belongs.  
waterboy has been removed from the discussion.  lets leave it at that.
#55 · Jan 4, 8:17 PM
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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Waterboy" said:
@"AGRforever" said:
@"greediron" said:
@"AGRforever" said: So is there any word on what actually happened?  

The blow looks like it hit him more in the chest then the head to me?  Did the hot stop his heart?  


Looks like it.  They used the defib on him, and they are calling it a cardiac arrest.

1 in a million hit in the exact wrong spot at the exact wrong time.  I hope he ends up ok.  Other then in a hospital I'm not sure they could have been in a better place.  There had to have been dozens on both sides of the ball that knew what happened and acted as fast as possible.  Including having the equipment in place to do as much good as they could have. 

On to the game side.  I wonder what they're going to do for results?  Do they record it as a tie?  Or subtract it out and have the Bills and Bengals have a 16 game season?  Very interesting and I'm sure it'll have some sort of playoff implications. 



First off, prayers for Hamlin.  I’m encouraged to hear he’s showing some good signs for possible recovery.  That being said, you 100% buy in to the theory of how this happened while discounting the fact that this hasn’t happened in 50 years.  Meanwhile, young male athletes across Europe and in society as a whole continue to die from an exponential increase in heart attacks and strokes over the last two years.  You and others will choose to readily accept the first explanation that comes out as to the cause.  There are others that feel the cause lies elsewhere, but until all social media and media in general start to willingly report on all views, the questions will not only remain, they will continue to multiply, as they have.  


NOT THE PLACE FOR THIS DISCUSSION.  if you want to have this discussion, there is another board for that matter.  I asked you once to not try and do this here.  Now you cant.


Just curious as to why this is not the place?  It is about football, the risks of playing the sport and our modern medicine.

It isn't like he was dancing on graves as many have been wont to do in recent years.  Moot point now, but it wasn't like he was being crass in this post.

#56 · Jan 4, 8:39 PM
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@"greediron" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Waterboy" said:
@"AGRforever" said:
@"greediron" said:
@"AGRforever" said: So is there any word on what actually happened?  

The blow looks like it hit him more in the chest then the head to me?  Did the hot stop his heart?  


Looks like it.  They used the defib on him, and they are calling it a cardiac arrest.

1 in a million hit in the exact wrong spot at the exact wrong time.  I hope he ends up ok.  Other then in a hospital I'm not sure they could have been in a better place.  There had to have been dozens on both sides of the ball that knew what happened and acted as fast as possible.  Including having the equipment in place to do as much good as they could have. 

On to the game side.  I wonder what they're going to do for results?  Do they record it as a tie?  Or subtract it out and have the Bills and Bengals have a 16 game season?  Very interesting and I'm sure it'll have some sort of playoff implications. 



First off, prayers for Hamlin.  I’m encouraged to hear he’s showing some good signs for possible recovery.  That being said, you 100% buy in to the theory of how this happened while discounting the fact that this hasn’t happened in 50 years.  Meanwhile, young male athletes across Europe and in society as a whole continue to die from an exponential increase in heart attacks and strokes over the last two years.  You and others will choose to readily accept the first explanation that comes out as to the cause.  There are others that feel the cause lies elsewhere, but until all social media and media in general start to willingly report on all views, the questions will not only remain, they will continue to multiply, as they have.  


NOT THE PLACE FOR THIS DISCUSSION.  if you want to have this discussion, there is another board for that matter.  I asked you once to not try and do this here.  Now you cant.


Just curious as to why this is not the place?  It is about football, the risks of playing the sport and our modern medicine.

It isn't like he was dancing on graves as many have been wont to do in recent years.  Moot point now, but it wasn't like he was being crass in this post.



Because the topic has proven to be divisive and many are sensitive to its discussion.   We have a place for that type of discussion that doesnt offend those that don't want to view those types of topics.  He is free to post his position on the ST board and as long as he remains civil in defense of his position there won't be any problems.

#57 · Jan 5, 6:41 AM
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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"greediron" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Waterboy" said:
@"AGRforever" said:
@"greediron" said:
@"AGRforever" said: So is there any word on what actually happened?  

The blow looks like it hit him more in the chest then the head to me?  Did the hot stop his heart?  


Looks like it.  They used the defib on him, and they are calling it a cardiac arrest.

1 in a million hit in the exact wrong spot at the exact wrong time.  I hope he ends up ok.  Other then in a hospital I'm not sure they could have been in a better place.  There had to have been dozens on both sides of the ball that knew what happened and acted as fast as possible.  Including having the equipment in place to do as much good as they could have. 

On to the game side.  I wonder what they're going to do for results?  Do they record it as a tie?  Or subtract it out and have the Bills and Bengals have a 16 game season?  Very interesting and I'm sure it'll have some sort of playoff implications. 



First off, prayers for Hamlin.  I’m encouraged to hear he’s showing some good signs for possible recovery.  That being said, you 100% buy in to the theory of how this happened while discounting the fact that this hasn’t happened in 50 years.  Meanwhile, young male athletes across Europe and in society as a whole continue to die from an exponential increase in heart attacks and strokes over the last two years.  You and others will choose to readily accept the first explanation that comes out as to the cause.  There are others that feel the cause lies elsewhere, but until all social media and media in general start to willingly report on all views, the questions will not only remain, they will continue to multiply, as they have.  


NOT THE PLACE FOR THIS DISCUSSION.  if you want to have this discussion, there is another board for that matter.  I asked you once to not try and do this here.  Now you cant.


Just curious as to why this is not the place?  It is about football, the risks of playing the sport and our modern medicine.

It isn't like he was dancing on graves as many have been wont to do in recent years.  Moot point now, but it wasn't like he was being crass in this post.



Because the topic has proven to be divisive and many are sensitive to its discussion.   We have a place for that type of discussion that doesnt offend those that don't want to view those types of topics.  He is free to post his position on the ST board and as long as he remains civil in defense of his position there won't be any problems.


Got it, I for some reason thought we were in the ST board.  

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