Buff @ Cincy - Not Good!
There's gonna be changes coming.
Prayers.
I hope they cancel the game.
Take a moment, it's just a game.
### Update, Game Suspended for tonight.
Ryan Clark spoke quite eloquently about Hamlin. I can't imagine how the broadcasters did this on the fly. Trying to process and gather your thoughts to speak publicly about this had to be tremendously difficult. Seeing how impacted the players were reminds you that they were witnessing trauma and that has an impact. They are human beings and thought were are going to play a game but things changed in an instant. Super scary.
@"AGRforever" said: hopefully this will load. Its from twitter so…This is a beautiful and powerful two minutes from Ryan Clark. pic.twitter.com/IyUTQgsmZc
— Marcus Greaves (@MarcusGreaves_) January 3, 2023
Not sure what this link was to?
My wife and I were listening to a cardilogist speak about this and if you hit the heart hard enough and at just the right angle, it can knock the rhythm of the beat way off. That is what he is surmising happened to Hamlin.
This is something they watch out for during baseball games for obvious reasons like a 99 mph fastball.
The difference between cardiac arrest and a heart attack Buffalo Bills safety Damar Hamlin, 24, suffered a cardiac arrest and collapsed on the field during the first quarter of Monday night’s game between the Bills and Cincinnati Bengals, his team said. It’s not clear what caused his cardiac arrest.
Cardiac arrest results from electrical disturbances that cause the heart to suddenly stop beating properly.
In cardiac arrest, death can result quickly if steps aren’t taken immediately. “Cardiac arrest may be reversed if CPR is performed and a defibrillator shocks the heart and restores a normal heart rhythm within a few minutes,” according to the American Heart Association.
More than 350,000 cardiac arrests occur outside a hospital in the United States each year, the AHA said.
A sudden, unexpected loss of heart function also results in a sudden loss of breathing and consciousness.
Cardiac arrest is not the same as a heart attack, although almost any known heart condition, including heart attack, can cause cardiac arrest.
Unlike cardiac arrest, a heart attack is a circulation problem. When circulation is blocked or cut off in some way and blood is no longer supplied to the heart muscle, this can damage that muscle – it’s commonly described as a heart attack; doctors may refer to it as “myocardial infarction.”
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/damar-hamlin-collapse-bills-bengals-game-intl-hnk/index.html
This is a beautiful and powerful two minutes from Ryan Clark. pic.twitter.com/IyUTQgsmZc
— Marcus Greaves (@MarcusGreaves_) January 3, 2023
The next 12 to 24 hours are critical for Damar Hamlin’s recovery, doctor saysDamar Hamlin’s recovery could depend on how long he was in cardiac arrest after he collapsed mid-game Monday night, Dr. Anthony Cardillo, an emergency room specialist, told CNN early Tuesday morning.
The primary concern is the length of time that he was not having cardiac activity,” Cardillo said. “Every second counts.”Hamlin was playing safety for the Buffalo Bills on Monday night when he suddenly collapsed after a tackle on Cincinnati Bengals wide receiver Tee Higgins. Hamlin stood up immediately after the tackle and then fell on his back seconds later. CPR was administered almost immediately after he collapsed, and medical personnel were able to revive his heartbeat while he was still at the field. The Bills later said he suffered a cardiac arrest and was in critical condition as of early Tuesday morning at a Cincinnati hospital. Cardiac arrest happens when the heart suddenly stops pumping blood to the body’s organs. “If you get hit at a very exact moment, it’s within milliseconds … that’s when you’re in cardiac arrest.” As Hamlin continued to receive treatment Tuesday, Cardillo explained that medical staff will likely slowly start weaning Hamlin off the ventilator over the next 12 to 24 hours to determine whether he can breathe on his own.
We know that he's a young 24, healthy, conditioned athlete. He's in the greatest possible situation to come back to a normal life at this point, but our prayers are with him to make sure he does recover like that,” Cardillo said.https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/damar-hamlin-collapse-bills-bengals-game-intl-hnk/index.html
@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/MarcusGreaves_/status/1610141006506364929?s=20&t=Y6dF313vUQ0aeC--Ae9OHwDisregard my Twitter link vikegirl got hers to show through and I agree it’s very eloquent
@"AGRforever" said: So is there any word on what actually happened?The blow looks like it hit him more in the chest then the head to me? Did the hot stop his heart?
Looks like it. They used the defib on him, and they are calling it a cardiac arrest.
@"greediron" said:@"AGRforever" said: So is there any word on what actually happened?The blow looks like it hit him more in the chest then the head to me? Did the hot stop his heart?
Looks like it. They used the defib on him, and they are calling it a cardiac arrest.1 in a million hit in the exact wrong spot at the exact wrong time. I hope he ends up ok. Other then in a hospital I'm not sure they could have been in a better place. There had to have been dozens on both sides of the ball that knew what happened and acted as fast as possible. Including having the equipment in place to do as much good as they could have.
On to the game side. I wonder what they're going to do for results? Do they record it as a tie? Or subtract it out and have the Bills and Bengals have a 16 game season? Very interesting and I'm sure it'll have some sort of playoff implications.
@"AGRforever" said:@"greediron" said:@"AGRforever" said: So is there any word on what actually happened?The blow looks like it hit him more in the chest then the head to me? Did the hot stop his heart?
Looks like it. They used the defib on him, and they are calling it a cardiac arrest.1 in a million hit in the exact wrong spot at the exact wrong time. I hope he ends up ok. Other then in a hospital I'm not sure they could have been in a better place. There had to have been dozens on both sides of the ball that knew what happened and acted as fast as possible. Including having the equipment in place to do as much good as they could have.
On to the game side. I wonder what they're going to do for results? Do they record it as a tie? Or subtract it out and have the Bills and Bengals have a 16 game season? Very interesting and I'm sure it'll have some sort of playoff implications.
I was watching the game live and it was a tackle we all have seen a million times. When he fell over it was just a sickening thing to see.
Agreed, that level 1 trauma hospital was about 10 minutes from the stadium for non emergency vehicles. Probably quicker for an ambulance. And his mom was there in attendance for him as well (poor gal).
I suspect they will have them play the game, not sure when though and the ripple effect for the last week needs to be managed too.
Unchartered territory for them to navigate.
Over $4m donated to Damar Hamlin’s toy drive after cardiac arrest on field https://t.co/3oLocLJr1q
— The Guardian (@guardian) January 3, 2023
Announcement directly from Damar’s family: pic.twitter.com/MdzgxUmVfg
— Jordon Rooney (@jordonr) January 3, 2023
@"AGRforever" said:@"greediron" said:@"AGRforever" said: So is there any word on what actually happened?The blow looks like it hit him more in the chest then the head to me? Did the hot stop his heart?
Looks like it. They used the defib on him, and they are calling it a cardiac arrest.1 in a million hit in the exact wrong spot at the exact wrong time. I hope he ends up ok. Other then in a hospital I'm not sure they could have been in a better place. There had to have been dozens on both sides of the ball that knew what happened and acted as fast as possible. Including having the equipment in place to do as much good as they could have.
On to the game side. I wonder what they're going to do for results? Do they record it as a tie? Or subtract it out and have the Bills and Bengals have a 16 game season? Very interesting and I'm sure it'll have some sort of playoff implications.
It was a pretty brutal hit for sure. Seemed more to the collarbone area than the heart, but it looked bad. And yes, having the defib equip is essential. So glad they were able to revive him.And on the game side, glad I didn't have to make that call. Can hardly expect players to keep playing after that, but it certainly throws a loop in the playoff seeding.
This right here is a reminder of the human factor. Yes they get paid a lot of money for playing a game but this is what trauma looks like.
Just want to take a moment and remind people that the impact of the Damar Hamlin situation goes beyond just Hamlin's own health 🙏 There is also a serious emotional and mental impact on the other players, staff, coaches and everyone else around it. Prayers that everyone recovers. pic.twitter.com/m4OexEyu7c
— Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) January 3, 2023
these guys are in the 20's and 30's....Seeing something like that right b4 their eyes is pretty traumatic.
Who here couldn't help but think about Big K through this?
@"purplefaithful" said: these guys are in the 20's and 30's....Seeing something like that right b4 their eyes is pretty traumatic.Who here couldn't help but think about Big K through this?
I’m old. That picture looks old and I can remember Stringer like yesterday. Can remember where I was at when the news hit.
@"purplefaithful" said: these guys are in the 20's and 30's....Seeing something like that right b4 their eyes is pretty traumatic.Who here couldn't help but think about Big K through this?
Plenty of people at all ages that have never seen trauma, or medical emergencies up close, its one of the things that makes being a first responder difficult is dealing with those that are looking on and seem to be in the way, they havent experienced this type of stuff before and dont have the emotional calluses, of course that goes both ways, sometimes people think responders are soulless or dont care, but part of that is familiarity, part is process ( making sure to focus on the patient, not the loved ones) but part of it is for self preservation and to be able to do that job again tomorrow or when ever the bell rings again.
by the way... if you are ever around an EMS situation..... please leave your phone in your pocket, or at least dont press charges when a first responder smacks it out of your hands and brings a boot down on it. nothing pisses me off more than finding video or pictures of our calls on facebook or other. personally I think posting that kind of shit should be illegal and people should be publicly flogged for taking and disseminating those types of things.
@"JimmyinSD" said:@"purplefaithful" said: these guys are in the 20's and 30's....Seeing something like that right b4 their eyes is pretty traumatic.Who here couldn't help but think about Big K through this?
Plenty of people at all ages that have never seen trauma, or medical emergencies up close, its one of the things that makes being a first responder difficult is dealing with those that are looking on and seem to be in the way, they havent experienced this type of stuff before and dont have the emotional calluses, of course that goes both ways, sometimes people think responders are soulless or dont care, but part of that is familiarity, part is process ( making sure to focus on the patient, not the loved ones) but part of it is for self preservation and to be able to do that job again tomorrow or when ever the bell rings again.by the way... if you are ever around an EMS situation..... please leave your phone in your pocket, or at least dont press charges when a first responder smacks it out of your hands and brings a boot down on it. nothing pisses me off more than finding video or pictures of our calls on facebook or other. personally I think posting that kind of shit should be illegal and people should be publicly flogged for taking and disseminating those types of things.
Yup, trauma hits all ages for sure...Our EMS staffers have gone through so much the past few years and its still harder than heck for them. I know you know this first hand too.
Happy new year buddy and best wishes to you and your family in 23.
@"purplefaithful" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:@"purplefaithful" said: these guys are in the 20's and 30's....Seeing something like that right b4 their eyes is pretty traumatic.Who here couldn't help but think about Big K through this?
Plenty of people at all ages that have never seen trauma, or medical emergencies up close, its one of the things that makes being a first responder difficult is dealing with those that are looking on and seem to be in the way, they havent experienced this type of stuff before and dont have the emotional calluses, of course that goes both ways, sometimes people think responders are soulless or dont care, but part of that is familiarity, part is process ( making sure to focus on the patient, not the loved ones) but part of it is for self preservation and to be able to do that job again tomorrow or when ever the bell rings again.by the way... if you are ever around an EMS situation..... please leave your phone in your pocket, or at least dont press charges when a first responder smacks it out of your hands and brings a boot down on it. nothing pisses me off more than finding video or pictures of our calls on facebook or other. personally I think posting that kind of shit should be illegal and people should be publicly flogged for taking and disseminating those types of things.
Yup, trauma hits all ages for sure...Our EMS staffers have gone through so much the past few years and its still harder than heck for them. I know you know this first hand too.
Happy new year buddy and best wishes to you and your family in 23.
you too brother!
@"JimmyinSD" said:@"purplefaithful" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:@"purplefaithful" said: these guys are in the 20's and 30's....Seeing something like that right b4 their eyes is pretty traumatic.Who here couldn't help but think about Big K through this?
Plenty of people at all ages that have never seen trauma, or medical emergencies up close, its one of the things that makes being a first responder difficult is dealing with those that are looking on and seem to be in the way, they havent experienced this type of stuff before and dont have the emotional calluses, of course that goes both ways, sometimes people think responders are soulless or dont care, but part of that is familiarity, part is process ( making sure to focus on the patient, not the loved ones) but part of it is for self preservation and to be able to do that job again tomorrow or when ever the bell rings again.by the way... if you are ever around an EMS situation..... please leave your phone in your pocket, or at least dont press charges when a first responder smacks it out of your hands and brings a boot down on it. nothing pisses me off more than finding video or pictures of our calls on facebook or other. personally I think posting that kind of shit should be illegal and people should be publicly flogged for taking and disseminating those types of things.
Yup, trauma hits all ages for sure...Our EMS staffers have gone through so much the past few years and its still harder than heck for them. I know you know this first hand too.
Happy new year buddy and best wishes to you and your family in 23.
you too brother!
Hit me up if you're coming to USB for a playoff game...
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