I want off the Cousins ride
I do, he was terrible today. This game should have been over mid 4th if we could have executed. I get that he's tough, but damn man you make it way harder than it has to be. White looked good today at 95% less the cost. I would love to see what other QB's could do with the weapons this guy has had for the last 5 years. It's who Cousins is, sometimes very good-sometimes very bad. Like this team for the last 5 years. Great for half a game, terrible for the other half.
The questions I have are, when will it ever change with this guy? Does he need a perfect situation to win a Super Bowl? And how do we get off this ride?
Cousins isn't the problem. The defense is the problem. But this wasn't one of Kirk's better games, no doubt about it. Those hellacious hits he took impacted his accuracy as the game went on. Zero doubt about that.
Worst Cousins has looked all year. He missed numerous throws he normally makes.
Played less than his best against a good team and we still won.
Just wish we could get consistent play out of Cousins.
Say what you want about Cousins, but his teammates love him. He's tough:
Brian O’Neill on Kirk Cousins: “He’s the fucking man. Sorry for my language.”
— Will Ragatz (@WillRagatz) December 4, 2022
It is being reported by Sam Ekstrom that he got hurt today but kept playing. He was definitely off today but don't know what exactly the injury is, he did take some shots.
I get it, it was an off game him for him. But the larger body of work shows a guy who looks great occasionally and terrible occasionally. I can't imagine where he would have been the last 5 years without a premier NFL offensive trio around him.
Cousins was the problem today, that defense isn't on the field drive after drive if he was executing. Again, I don't see this team winning anything more than a wild card game with him, yet they can't deal him or refuse to draft a replacement for him, so how does it end?
Winning Wild Card games is not good enough for the money he is being paid.
@"Skodin" said: I get it, it was an off game him for him. But the larger body of work shows a guy who looks great occasionally and terrible occasionally. I can't imagine where he would have been the last 5 years without a premier NFL offensive trio around him.Cousins was the problem today, that defense isn't on the field drive after drive if he was executing. Again, I don't see this team winning anything more than a wild card game with him, yet they can't deal him or refuse to draft a replacement for him, so how does it end?
Winning Wild Card games is not good enough for the money he is being paid.
It doesn't all fall on Cousins. First off he took some shots today and got right back up. The 2nd half the play calling didn't seem like they were trying to drive the ball downfield as much as the first half. Something was off with him today because his accuracy was shit, don't know if that hit in the firsts half was worse than reported but something definitely was off.
The defense was also part of the problem today, they came up big in the red zone time after time but between the twenty yard lines they were soft as jello.
As for players not being good enough for the money they are being paid, look no further than Hunter and Z Smith. Absolute no-shows today.
He gets absolutely pounded on at LEAST one play every drive. Why would his rhythm be off????? LOL!
The defense was mostly an embarrassment, letting the Mike White Jets rack up 486 yards and 22 points, which might have been more like 40 if not for a lot of red zone failure on their part. But I get that for some Viking fans, all blame lands on Kirk's shoulders.
@"Mike Olson" said: He gets absolutely pounded on at LEAST one play every drive. Why would his rhythm be off????? LOL!This. Agreed. He has been taking some crazy hits and keeps getting up but yeah it was rough.
@"comet52" said: The defense was mostly an embarrassment, letting the Mike White Jets rack up 486 yards and 22 points, which might have been more like 40 if not for a lot of red zone failure on their part. But I get that for some Viking fans, all blame lands on Kirk's shoulders.
@"Greylock" said:@"Skodin" said: I get it, it was an off game him for him. But the larger body of work shows a guy who looks great occasionally and terrible occasionally. I can't imagine where he would have been the last 5 years without a premier NFL offensive trio around him.Cousins was the problem today, that defense isn't on the field drive after drive if he was executing. Again, I don't see this team winning anything more than a wild card game with him, yet they can't deal him or refuse to draft a replacement for him, so how does it end?
Winning Wild Card games is not good enough for the money he is being paid.
It doesn't all fall on Cousins. First off he took some shots today and got right back up. The 2nd half the play calling didn't seem like they were trying to drive the ball downfield as much as the first half. Something was off with him today because his accuracy was shit, don't know if that hit in the firsts half was worse than reported but something definitely was off.The defense was also part of the problem today, they came up big in the red zone time after time but between the twenty yard lines they were soft as jello.
As for players not being good enough for the money they are being paid, look no further than Hunter and Z Smith. Absolute no-shows today.
Totally agree on Hunter and Z, they were both non-factors, suppose to be the leaders of the defense and they both just were invisible and it hasn't been just this game.
Cousins was off for most of the game, but he also made some big time plays under pressure, we had two long drives when we really needed it where he was great when he had to be and the TD pass was perfect. He showed some serious toughness standing in there and taking some huge hits, lot of respect for him. I put most of the offensive issues today on KOC, by far his worst game, so disappointed in the way he played not to lose all game.
@"comet52" said: The defense was mostly an embarrassment, letting the Mike White Jets rack up 486 yards and 22 points, which might have been more like 40 if not for a lot of red zone failure on their part. But I get that for some Viking fans, all blame lands on Kirk's shoulders.
I mean the defense kept holding them to field goals. Kirk was off. The defense gave up a lot of yards but there were some 3 and outs too. There was a huge dip between the first half and second half. It was crazy and ugly all around.
Well we aren’t a third quarter team. We score rarely in the third. IMO if we could fox that we can keep teams more one dimensional, and that would help pir defense.
Eric Kendricks on Kirk Cousins: "He's tough as hell. That's my quarterback."
— Alec Lewis (@alec_lewis) December 4, 2022
The Vikings beat two of the NFL’s best defenses back-to-back without Christian Darrisaw
— Sean Borman (@SeanBormanNFL) December 4, 2022
@"Mike Olson" said: He gets absolutely pounded on at LEAST one play every drive. Why would his rhythm be off????? LOL!
Oh give me a break. He also puts himself in a position to get pounded every drive. That's another reason why I think we are fooling ourselves with Charlie Brown here. Pounded or not, he has tendencies that will hold this team back from putting a dagger in teams, winning in January. His career has been the same, sometimes great teasing us with greatness, and a lot of shit play. A lot of shit play despite having either great weapons or a very good defense.
He cleans up his play the defense isn't in the position drive after drive. We had 90 yards in the second half, 90 with 70 being one drive. That might win today but that's not a recipe for actual success.
I have zero confidence in him to be that guy because he's not that guy.
Never said ALL the blame, just its his job to execute and he didn't. Sorry I want championship play by the QB of this team. IF we aren't going to get it, then I don't know why we are waisting our time with him.
@"Skodin" said:@"Mike Olson" said: He gets absolutely pounded on at LEAST one play every drive. Why would his rhythm be off????? LOL!
Oh give me a break. He also puts himself in a position to get pounded every drive. That's another reason why I think we are fooling ourselves with Charlie Brown here. Pounded or not, he has tendencies that will hold this team back from putting a dagger in teams, winning in January. His career has been the same, sometimes great teasing us with greatness, and a lot of shit play. A lot of shit play despite having either great weapons or a very good defense.He cleans up his play the defense isn't in the position drive after drive. We had 90 yards in the second half, 90 with 70 being one drive. That might win today but that's not a recipe for actual success.
I have zero confidence in him to be that guy because he's not that guy.
"Dan Marino was never a Super Bowl champion. Marino made his sole Super Bowl appearance in Super Bowl XIX, which took place after the 1984 NFL season his rookie year. Marino's Miami Dolphins were defeated by the San Francisco 49ers 38-16 in that game."I have no idea if Cousins will ever get to a Superbowl. And he's certainly no Dan Marino. But if a guy like Dan Marino can't win one, there's reasons outside his play that are factoring in obviously. Just like any QB. And to say that Cousins has 'a lot of shit play' as a Viking is just way wrong. But again, I don't expect to change any minds.
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