Reason For Worry…. Reason For Hope
The Viking can't avoid the fan's talk of concern. The third preseason game is the true "dress rehearsal" for the regular season, and the Vikings 1st teamers failed that test miserably last night versus the 49ers.
Sure, the team won, when half the players playing in the 4th quarter are those who will be selling insurance next week. However, may of the problems that were evident last season are still here.
THE BAD
Offense:
Stefon Diggs had an unexpected case of the dropsies. He was open, deeper on the field and the ball was placed perfectly. He WILL catch those in the season. The run game looked weak again, even with a more dynamic (at this stage of his career) RB in Dalvin Cook. The offensive line still looks like a work in progress. While Remmers and Reiff are improvements over last year's starters, they are not much better. Reiff gets a bit of a pass, because this was his first action since week one of camp. But, both were soundly beaten at times. Easton looks decent, but is really a backup. When 35 year old journeyman Joe Berger is counted on to start, that is a bad sign. Boone still looks more talk than action on the field. TJ Clemmings ( a very smart individual) remains completely outclassed and should be cut. Willie Beavers seems a wasted pick - he is often out of position and looks lost. Not bad, but it seems Jarius Wright's days are over. He is decent, but the salary is simply too high for a bit player. Please cut Moritz Bohringer - he is a waste of a roster spot. He has improved very little and is quickly passed by rookies.
Defense: I am hoping the result of last night's SF 49er offense continually carving our defense up was due to a bland scheme. Even so, there was simply no pass rush at all, and the only guy who looked like he was ready to play on the 1st unit was Eric Kendricks. Our pass defense was horrid, and our big-dollar CB Rhodes was out of place often, and Trae Waynes was alarmingly slow and out of position too. That won't get it done, especially when they made Brian Hoyer look like an all-pro. Anthony Barr just does not seem to be a factor at all. Some worry about rookie Ben Gideon starting, but it is only 20-25 snaps a game, and he has looked good much of camp. It is a tough spot for a rookie, but not that impactful when he will play 30% of the game.
Special Teams:
Rodney Adams and Jerrick McKinnon looked sharp on the return game. Kicking game was uneven and the punters looked equally average.
The Coaching:
This team was not ready to play on Sunday Night Football, and put on an embarrassing 1st half for fans who paid over $100 per ticket to see them perform. Sure, the team won, but Mike Zimmer is likely to be quite loud in displaying his displeasure in his team's fire and enthusiasm to play. Could Zimmer not calling defensive alignments and plays be the reason the defense looked so bad last night? Or was it just a bland game plan?
THE GOOD
Offense - Pat Elflein looks solid and is likely your starting center, if not in game 1, then by game 5. Danny Isadora "gets it" and will start soon too. Both Rodney Adams and Stacy Coley look worthy of making this squad. Both backup Qbs moved the ball, but even though he won the game Taylor Heinicke's passes floated at the end of their trajectory (especially when he passed off his back foot) and will often get picked in a regular season game when 1st teamers are playing against him. That said, both moved the ball and showed some playing ability, and that is about as much as you can hope for in a backup in the NFL these days. Both will get lots of reps on Thursday. Bucky Hodges also was of note, and is a big target who can get open.
Defense - Eric Kendricks always plays like the house is on fire - in a good way. We saw much more intensity with the 2nd and 3rd units, with Jaleel Johnson, Jayron Kearse and few others sticking out.
The Blah - I have no idea why LaQuon Treadwell is running ahead of Rodney Adams and Stacey Coley. Yes, he caught one last night, but it was a simple zone route. He shows lost no flash. The others can move the chains better. Sam Bradford looked okay, and the Diggs drops did not help his yardage stats (he would have been 19 of 21 for 180+ yards had he caught them), but nothing spectacular.
If the Vikings team that played last night, shows up for the regular season, this is a 5-11 or 6-10 team. There is way too much work to still be done with just 10 days till opening night vs New Orleans. As is, Drew Brees will have a field day with this team. Zimmer has these 10 days to ensure that does not happen.
My GUT CALL? This is an 8-8 team. With some good futune and improvement in the line and run game, this Viking squad is 10-6. With injuries or performances like Sunday night by the starters and it could be a long year. Glad opening day in not tomorrow!
@"Tom Moore" said: My GUT CALL? This is an 8-8 team. With some good futune and improvement in the line and run game, this Viking squad is 10-6. With injuries or performances like Sunday night by the starters and it could be a long year. Glad opening day in not tomorrow!What was your gut call prior to Sunday nights egg laying by the first team? I posted twice last week that 8-8 looked like the ceiling, so far I've seen nothing to change my mind. This team played with a fire up until that Philly game last year when Zimmer called them "soft" postgame. Haven't seen so much as a spark since then. I have no idea if I'm right about that being the issue but I can't see them doing much or going far when they are so flat so often and Sunday was another example of this. Zimmer's been lost since then and so is this team. Looks like a postseason housecleaning may be on the way, from the g.m. on down.
I think this team should win 9 or 10 games IF the oline is average.
The biggest concern I had in the first half was how SF was completing passes over the middle. Seemed like the big plays were all over the middle area.
Any stab at a prediction for me would just be a stab in the dark. I have no idea what the hell this coaching staff is doing with the team right now. The Oline looks to be a complete and total mess and I don't even mean that from a talent perspective... They don't seem to know who is going to play where yet. Defense could be an aberration but then again maybe not. I worry that we have some new defensive systems in place that the defense doesn't quite understand yet. or doesn't trust... Or worse yet, isn't going to be effective.
All of that said the worst thing I think we as fans could have to endure is a housecleaning. Look at the steelers. They stick with their coaching and GM's because even though you may suffer through some bumps in the road, continuity is really the best way to more forward. Every coaching staff and front office is going to have to learn from their mistakes and build cohesion.... Cleaning house every few years just forces us to have to go through that again and again and again. It isn't like we have the Browns organization here.
without know what we were trying to do on D vs their O, nothing can be gleaned from the game except maybe some tackling drills are in order, other than that SF was pulling out the stops and our D was playing very basic and basically just taking reps. People need to keep remembering that this game meant more to a new regime in San Fran than it did to Minny. smart coaches use the preseason for what it is... a practice, practice is where you try new things to see if you want them in the real games. As bad as we looked and as confused as we looked on D, they had to be trying new shit and it wasnt working.
@"JimmyinSD" said: without know what we were trying to do on D vs their O, nothing can be gleaned from the game except maybe some tackling drills are in order, other than that SF was pulling out the stops and our D was playing very basic and basically just taking reps. People need to keep remembering that this game meant more to a new regime in San Fran than it did to Minny. smart coaches use the preseason for what it is... a practice, practice is where you try new things to see if you want them in the real games. As bad as we looked and as confused as we looked on D, they had to be trying new shit and it wasnt working.That is my take as well. Most of the guys are vets in Zim's defense and he likely is testing new wrinkles. Without film study, the team is susceptible to the trickery that SF was doing. Rhodes and the safety bit on the reverse and left a guy wide open. The one 3rd and long screen for a TD was just bad tackling. Exum missed badly and so did several others. And some of those will not be here in the reg season.
@"comet52" said:It's weird. I had no gut feel. On paper, the talent is slightly better than the team that started 5-0, but something is missing. There seems to be no spark. Cook is the real deal, so getting him more than 6 carries may show you something.@"Tom Moore" said: My GUT CALL? This is an 8-8 team. With some good futune and improvement in the line and run game, this Viking squad is 10-6. With injuries or performances like Sunday night by the starters and it could be a long year. Glad opening day in not tomorrow! What was your gut call prior to Sunday nights egg laying by the first team? I posted twice last week that 8-8 looked like the ceiling, so far I've seen nothing to change my mind. This team played with a fire up until that Philly game last year when Zimmer called them "soft" postgame. Haven't seen so much as a spark since then. I have no idea if I'm right about that being the issue but I can't see them doing much or going far when they are so flat so often and Sunday was another example of this. Zimmer's been lost since then and so is this team. Looks like a postseason housecleaning may be on the way, from the g.m. on down.i think they are a middling team, mainly due to the continued Offensive Line questions. The defense should be okay, but the first half Sunday was disturbing. Wonder if Zimmer goes back to calling the defensive plays
Reason For Worry…. Reason For Hope
Tom Moore is VikeFans.com lead interviewer and Senior Content Provider. The Vikings can’t avoid the fan’s talk of concern. The third preseason game is the true “dress rehearsal&…
Solid synopsis of the game Tom. I know that I'm a little bit more critical of Ben Gedeon than maybe is warranted, we'll see how he pans out. I think with some seasoning he can fill the role, I'm just not sure he is ready for it. Then again what else do we have?
Here's to hoping that what we saw can all be credited to two teams treating the preseason differently.
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