Vick getting trashed for telling kapernick to get a haircut.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/colin-kaepernick-responds-to-michael-vick-saying-he-should-get-a-haircut/ar-BBEGjrL?li=BBnb7Kz
whats the big deal here? is it really earth shattering that corporate America would prefer to have their representatives ( QBs are often the faces of the franchise) to fit a certain mold? Kapernick was being very outspoken on unpopular topics to many and with the radical hairdo it sends a message that he will continue to rock the boat and not conform to the image and type of player that a corporation would want out front. Its like a hippie in the 60s, if you saw long hair... what did you expect to hear? if you saw a well groomed person would you expect anti war rhetoric and all the other hippie generation themes?
Does the hair make the man.. no chance no way, but it does at times reflect on a persona that a person is trying to portray or a way of life they are trying to live. or it could be they are just having a bad hair day.
If I was kapernick i wouldnt be trying to piss off anybody that is reaching out to me with help or advice... he has a lot of people that supposedly support him, but apparently none of them are in a position to actually do anything about it.
Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?
At this point, the damage is
done. Going cleancut isn’t going to make
people forget that he has strong political stances and that media is going to
blowup anything he says or doesn’t say into a distraction.
And Vick is the absolute last person he should ever take advice from, but he should have let it die rather than addressing it.
@"medaille" said: At this point, the damage is done. Going cleancut isn’t going to make people forget that he has strong political stances and that media is going to blowup anything he says or doesn’t say into a distraction.And Vick is the absolute last person he should ever take advice from, but he should have let it die rather than addressing it.
Vick has been in kapernicks shoes, different reasons but both were public enemy #1 and I think that is where he was speaking from. clean up the physical appearance and maybe people will forgive or at least forget the offenses.
@"JimmyinSD" said:@"medaille" said: At this point, the damage is done. Going cleancut isn’t going to make people forget that he has strong political stances and that media is going to blowup anything he says or doesn’t say into a distraction.And Vick is the absolute last person he should ever take advice from, but he should have let it die rather than addressing it.
Vick has been in kapernicks shoes, different reasons but both were public enemy #1 and I think that is where he was speaking from. clean up the physical appearance and maybe people will forgive or at least forget the offenses.
The Vick and Kaepernick situations really aren't comparable.
@"claykenny" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:@"medaille" said: At this point, the damage is done. Going cleancut isn’t going to make people forget that he has strong political stances and that media is going to blowup anything he says or doesn’t say into a distraction.And Vick is the absolute last person he should ever take advice from, but he should have let it die rather than addressing it.
Vick has been in kapernicks shoes, different reasons but both were public enemy #1 and I think that is where he was speaking from. clean up the physical appearance and maybe people will forgive or at least forget the offenses.
The Vick and Kaepernick situations really aren't comparable.
Are they not both QBs? Both public opinion Poison? I think on a certain level they are very similar.
I think they are similar in the sense that they are both lightning rods for media craziness, but Vick did legitimate horrible things. Kaepernick like Kluwe just had politically minded views that a large chunk of the football audience didn't agree with.
@"medaille" said: I think they are similar in the sense that they are both lightning rods for media craziness, but Vick did legitimate horrible things. Kaepernick like Kluwe just had politically minded views that a large chunk of the football audience didn't agree with.Oh I see the difference, but in the eyes of some one is no worse than the other and patriotism is still pretty strong with a lot of people in this country...maybe more so than the dog fighting issue.
Huge difference. Vick did something to apologize for, Kaepernick didn't. His intention may have been good but it's not going to work with Kaepernick.
It looks to me that the media is really getting desperate these days to highlight a comment about someone's hair-style. What's next? A comment on the style of shoes another player wears? Shit to just stir up controversy, that's all I see.
@"Vikergirl" said: Huge difference. Vick did something to apologize for, Kaepernick didn't. His intention may have been good but it's not going to work with Kaepernick.all depends on how you view your flag and your country, if you own a business and your fan base is pretty patriotic and kapernick did what he did... I would guess that some would be waiting for some contrition. just because you dont see an issue with what he did doesnt mean one doesnt exist. let him flip burgers IMO.
@"JimmyinSD" said:I get that. My point was in reference to Vick. And of course some see his form of protest as unpatriotic and others don't. Some see his approach as freedom of expression and very patriotic because he was speaking out against injustice. Another example of very different points of view on the issue. Lately, he has gone off the rails a bit. And I do understand the image consideration, which is what Vick was referring to.@"Vikergirl" said: Huge difference. Vick did something to apologize for, Kaepernick didn't. His intention may have been good but it's not going to work with Kaepernick. all depends on how you view your flag and your country, if you own a business and your fan base is pretty patriotic and kapernick did what he did... I would guess that some would be waiting for some contrition. just because you dont see an issue with what he did doesnt mean one doesnt exist. let him flip burgers IMO.
@"Vikergirl" said:so we are back to image, both physical and social, which is what Vick was fighting as well as Kapernick is fighting. it was a suggestion to clean up the physical image to garner a new look from those that see his outward appearance as an indicator of whats going on inside. a change would do him good, period. this isnt a matter of what people think as far as right and wrong, this is a matter of how people perceive collin kapernick, any type of outward change would benefit his situation is all Vick was saying.... show them something that says you are capable of, or attempting to change.@"JimmyinSD" said:I get that. My point was in reference to Vick. And of course some see his form of protest as unpatriotic and others don't. Some see his approach as freedom of expression and very patriotic because he was speaking out against injustice. Another example of very different points of view on the issue. Lately, he has gone off the rails a bit. And I do understand the image consideration, which is what Vick was referring to.@"Vikergirl" said: Huge difference. Vick did something to apologize for, Kaepernick didn't. His intention may have been good but it's not going to work with Kaepernick. all depends on how you view your flag and your country, if you own a business and your fan base is pretty patriotic and kapernick did what he did... I would guess that some would be waiting for some contrition. just because you dont see an issue with what he did doesnt mean one doesnt exist. let him flip burgers IMO.
Vick always did seem to favor short hair breeds if I recall correctly...
Michael Vick “truly sorry for what I said” about Colin KaepernickPosted by Michael David Smith on July 20, 2017, 11:44 AM EDT
Getty ImagesAfter saying this week that Colin Kaepernick’s continued unemployment is his own fault, Michael Vick has reconsidered.
Vick said on the Dan Patrick Show that that he’s sorry he said Kaepernick’s play and not his national anthem protest is the reason he’s been unable to find an NFL team this offseason.
“What I said, I should have never said,” Vick said. “I think it was taken out of context in regards to what I was trying to convey, but I only want to help Colin Kaepernick. I’m not a general manager, I’m not the guy who makes the decisions on getting him signed, and I’m truly sorry for what I said. I think I should have used a better choice of words.”
Vick specifically said he’s sorry he urged Kaepernick to get a haircut, saying he doesn’t think that has any bearing on Kaepernick’s situation.
“His afro has nothing to do with him being signed and I wasn’t trying to relay that message. It was more about helping him at the end of the day,” Vick said.
That’s quite a change of heart, coming after Vick received quite a bit of criticism for his comments.
@"BarrNone55" said: Michael Vick “truly sorry for what I said” about Colin Kaepernickor oops, i said something that pissed people off, i better back track so I dont have to explain myself.Posted by Michael David Smith on July 20, 2017, 11:44 AM EDTGetty ImagesAfter saying this week that Colin Kaepernick’s continued unemployment is his own fault, Michael Vick has reconsidered. Vick said on the Dan Patrick Show that that he’s sorry he said Kaepernick’s play and not his national anthem protest is the reason he’s been unable to find an NFL team this offseason. “What I said, I should have never said,” Vick said. “I think it was taken out of context in regards to what I was trying to convey, but I only want to help Colin Kaepernick. I’m not a general manager, I’m not the guy who makes the decisions on getting him signed, and I’m truly sorry for what I said. I think I should have used a better choice of words.” Vick specifically said he’s sorry he urged Kaepernick to get a haircut, saying he doesn’t think that has any bearing on Kaepernick’s situation. “His afro has nothing to do with him being signed and I wasn’t trying to relay that message. It was more about helping him at the end of the day,” Vick said. That’s quite a change of heart, coming after Vick received quite a bit of criticism for his comments.
Jeezus, if you make a statement stand behind it, if you meant it, in the end you answer to yourself, not what you believe somebody thinks of you. If you truly are sorry, you are a sorry individual for bringing it up. If you say or type it OWN IT! I'm am tired of the folding lawn chairs.
@"Vikefever" said: Jeezus, if you make a statement stand behind it, if you meant it, in the end you answer to yourself, not what you believe somebody thinks of you. If you truly are sorry, you are a sorry individual for bringing it up. If you say or type it OWN IT! I'm am tired of the folding lawn chairs.The "truly sorry" is a bunch of crap IMO. The only thing he is sorry for is that he said it on record and is being hassled for it.
Not sure stating an opinion on an opinion oriented show warrants "truly sorry".
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