Danielle Hunter: The New Face of the Franchise

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"greediron" said:

@"medaille" said: Our defense is designed to be a team defense, not one that funnels the glory stats to one player.  I think he'll have an uphill battle standing out against his peers in our system.

Count me in the group that thinks we don't need a guy to place all our hopes and dreams into.  I just want a team that is full of above average guys that is relentless and resiliant.  I think Cook is the most likely guy to draw attention to himself.  Bradford could have a great season, but he's a blend into the background kind of guy.

Agreed.  The D isn't going to have a stat guy.  Everyone needs to do their job and that means no glory hounds.

And I agree that Bradford could be, but doesn't seem that comfortable around the camera. 

Definitely agree that it's a team concept D...but we did have a stat guy in Hunter last year playing part time...tied for third in sacks...full time snaps puts him at 18.5 sacks based on his per snap production...which would have bested Beasley by three for the league lead...

@"greediron" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"greediron" said:

@"medaille" said: Our defense is designed to be a team defense, not one that funnels the glory stats to one player.  I think he'll have an uphill battle standing out against his peers in our system.

Count me in the group that thinks we don't need a guy to place all our hopes and dreams into.  I just want a team that is full of above average guys that is relentless and resiliant.  I think Cook is the most likely guy to draw attention to himself.  Bradford could have a great season, but he's a blend into the background kind of guy.

Agreed.  The D isn't going to have a stat guy.  Everyone needs to do their job and that means no glory hounds.

And I agree that Bradford could be, but doesn't seem that comfortable around the camera. 

Definitely agree that it's a team concept D...but we did have a stat guy in Hunter last year playing part time...tied for third in sacks...full time snaps puts him at 18.5 sacks based on his per snap production...which would have bested Beasley by three for the league lead...

Oh, he certainly has the talent for it.  But will likely get a bit more attention this year.  Hard to project part time stats to starter time.

@"greediron" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

Definitely agree that it's a team concept D...but we did have a stat guy in Hunter last year playing part time...tied for third in sacks...full time snaps puts him at 18.5 sacks based on his per snap production...which would have bested Beasley by three for the league lead...

Oh, he certainly has the talent for it.  But will likely get a bit more attention this year.  Hard to project part time stats to starter time.

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"greediron" said:

Oh, he certainly has the talent for it.  But will likely get a bit more attention this year.  Hard to project part time stats to starter time.

No it's not, I just did it...

;)

I like to think he'll wear down opposing OTs with more snaps...He's going to be faster and quicker than any RT he lines up against, and probably stronger too... 

Definitely could have an effect...from the sounds of it both Weatherly and Jones will see reps at DE too...I think we see 7-8 man rotation and the snap counts across the board being distributed a bit more...

Brob was a monster when he was coming off the bench early on in his career IIRC also,  but his production didnt really increase exponentially with his snaps.  He was still better than ol ray ray the boxer, but his per snap production did drop I think.

Every defense is a 'team concept' defense, it wouldn't be successful any other way. Elite players get their stats regardless, so to say that the Viking defense isn't set up for defensive stats for guys, that's silly IMO. Danielle Hunter has more sacks than any player in NFL history at 22 years old other than one person: Jason Pierre-Paul. And he got his 12.5 this year in 495 snaps. Von Miller got 13.5 sacks on 750 snaps. He's legitimately special. 

The guy who just doesn't get enough credit is Everson Griffen. He's my favorite on the D behind Joseph. He's a top 3 athlete at the DE spot. Bull strong and violent. He's a damn nightmare combination. I love his determination. When he tracked down Russell Wilson in the playoffs against Seattle and brought him down with it being sheer determination from Wilson to get it off as he was going down for no sack. But watch that play. Wilson is super elusive and Griffen stuck with him and tracked him down like a damn cheetah on a gazelle. I can honestly question if another DE in the NFL could have done that. It blew my mind, somebody has to find it and post that video here.

@"StickyBun" said: Every defense is a 'team concept' defense, it wouldn't be successful any other way. Elite players get their stats regardless, so to say that the Viking defense isn't set up for defensive stats for guys, that's silly IMO. Danielle Hunter has more sacks than any player in NFL history at 22 years old other than one person: Jason Pierre-Paul. And he got his 12.5 this year in 495 snaps. Von Miller got 13.5 sacks on 750 snaps. He's legitimately special. 

The guy who just doesn't get enough credit is Everson Griffen. He's my favorite on the D behind Joseph. He's a top 3 athlete at the DE spot. Bull strong and violent. He's a damn nightmare combination. I love his determination. When he tracked down Russell Wilson in the playoffs against Seattle and brought him down with it being sheer determination from Wilson to get it off as he was going down for no sack. But watch that play. Wilson is super elusive and Griffen stuck with him and tracked him down like a damn cheetah on a gazelle. I can honestly question if another DE in the NFL could have done that. It blew my mind, somebody has to find it and post that video here.

Zimmers defenses have a history of having very good results without any 1 player having great individual stats because he emphasizes that each player does their job.   Some teams will take their studs and try to put them in situations that are beneficial to them, or will allow them to freelance,  Zim trys to make every one of his player the stud with zero tolerance for free lancing.  Danielle Hunter will have good numbers, maybe even great,  but he will also do his job completely or he wont be on the field much.

Dianna Russini, anyone watching NFL Live lately, hubba hubba!  B)

@"SDCAVIKESFAN" said: When you think of the great Vikings teams of the past you do not necessarily think of anyone particular player do you?  When I think of it I think of the Purple People Eaters.  Or the 98 Vikings with that explosive offense,  some might think of Moss and Carter, but when you think back you have to think of how good that entire Offense was.  That is what I would like see. 

When I think of the 1998 offense I think of Moss. He helped everyone else for being the greatest deep threat the NFL has ever seen.

@"Canthony" said:

@"greediron" said:

@"medaille" said: Our defense is designed to be a team defense, not one that funnels the glory stats to one player.  I think he'll have an uphill battle standing out against his peers in our system.

Count me in the group that thinks we don't need a guy to place all our hopes and dreams into.  I just want a team that is full of above average guys that is relentless and resiliant.  I think Cook is the most likely guy to draw attention to himself.  Bradford could have a great season, but he's a blend into the background kind of guy.

Agreed.  The D isn't going to have a stat guy.  Everyone needs to do their job and that means no glory hounds.

And I agree that Bradford could be, but doesn't seem that comfortable around the camera. 

I think he is just uncomfortable when the pressure is on. I think he has all the talent in the world, but when those lights are the brightest I think he can be a bit of a liability.
I sure as hell wouldn't want him leading my team down for the win. He has some to prove to me this year coming off of a year where he did really well given the circumstances.

He seemed to handle the pressure of his first game as a Viking with a couple weeks to learn a new offense and the first game in the new stadium. Against the Vikings biggest division rival. Now with that said he does need to work on his 2-minute offense. He seems to slow with it and needs to improve upon it.