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MaroonBells
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LOVE that we took two DLs. What a massive booster shot of talent to this front seven

LIKE that we took a LB in the 2nd and used 4 of our 5 picks on defense. 

DON’T LIKE that we turned Greenard into Jakobe Thomas. I did think a 2nd rounder was too optimistic given the contract though

HATE that we took a tackle over a center and now have to watch 60-some players go off the board before we grab our C and RB. Nothing against Tiernan, just nervous about what it might suggest about Darrisaw and O’Neill. 

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#1 · Apr 25, 8:15 AM
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I think it suggests we don’t want to be caught short at OT again. Skule was not serviceable. I think it also means they are comfortable with Brandel or possibly Jurgens at C. Definitely a perplexing move at the time, but it’s growing on me.

Dig in a bit on Thomas. I think you’ll be pleased. Honestly, I’m embarrassed I didn’t unearth him before now.

The Greenard trade stings, but in the long run it’s pretty beneficial if K1 hits and we need to pay him. Chess, not checkers.

“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

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#2 · Apr 25, 8:25 AM
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JustInTime wrote:

I think it suggests we don’t want to be caught short at OT again. Skule was not serviceable. I think it also means they are comfortable with Brandel or possibly Jurgens at C. Definitely a perplexing move at the time, but it’s growing on me.
Dig in a bit on Thomas. I think you’ll be pleased. Honestly, I’m embarrassed I didn’t unearth him before now.
The Greenard trade stings, but in the long run it’s pretty beneficial if K1 hits and we need to pay him. Chess, not checkers.

We didn't have a choice really. Greenard wasn't going to play under his existing contract. It makes perfect sense in terms of salary cap and the future roster construction. But if I look at it in terms of Greenard--->Thomas it smarts a bit. Will look more into JT today. He looks a little cray, which is what you want in a safety.

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#3 · Apr 25, 8:41 AM
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MaroonBells wrote:

We didn't have a choice really. Greenard wasn't going to play under his existing contract. It makes perfect sense in terms of salary cap and the future roster construction. But if I look at it in terms of Greenard--->Thomas it smarts a bit. Will look more into JT today. He looks a little cray, which is what you want in a safety.

We didn’t. And the Eagles paid above market looking at recent history for comparable players.

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#4 · Apr 25, 8:55 AM
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MaroonBells wrote:

LOVE that we took two DLs. What a massive booster shot of talent to this front sevenLIKE that we took a LB in the 2nd and used 4 of our 5 picks on defense. DON’T LIKE that we turned Greenard into Jakobe Thomas. I did think a 2nd rounder was too optimistic given the contract thoughHATE that we took a tackle over a center and now have to watch 60-some players go off the board before we grab our C and RB. Nothing against Tiernan, just nervous about what it might suggest about Darrisaw and O’Neill.

To be fair we didn’t just trade him for Jakobe Thomas. You turned him into Thomas plus a third in next years draft which is awfully close to 2nd round value. Now I was ok with Tackle and think he is ok but do think we got sniped by the Steelers for the big ginger. All in all it’s a pretty solid draft. I am fine with consolidating our picks for 2 really good picks. CB, RB, TE, C.

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#5 · Apr 25, 9:07 AM
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I also hated trading Greenard, especially at this point in his career and lets not forget he was a team captain...But yah, JIT is right - we're going to have to pay Murray, JJM or someone at QB some serious coin so...

And Turner earned his chance to start. Still doesnt take the sting away for me though.

I'm cold on the OT pick, not when there were more pressing needs imo... And yah, hopefully everyone in Eagan is cool with how CD is progressing, I got some nervous twitch drafting an OT in top 3 rounds. Sounds like they'll experiment with where to play him. May kick inside, but has traits to play T too.

Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger! 

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#6 · Apr 25, 9:10 AM
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purplefaithful wrote:

I also hated trading Greenard, especially at this point in his career and lets not forget he was a team captain...But yah, JIT is right - we're going to have to pay Murray, JJM or someone at QB some serious coin so...
And Turner earned his chance to start. Still doesnt take the sting away for me though.
I'm cold on the OT pick, not when there were more pressing needs imo... And yah, hopefully everyone in Eagan is cool with how CD is progressing, I got some nervous twitch drafting an OT in top 3 rounds. Sounds like they'll experiment with where to play him. May kick inside, but has traits to play T too.

Tiernan is enormous. Almost 6-8, 323. Like that the Vikings are going bigger on their lines. Do you think the Vikings were a bit stung by the tackle injuries last year? We now have Van Demark and Tiernan. Bigger spends than we typically devote to swing tackles. You kind of expect 3rd round tackles to eventually start. Does this mean we're not going to extend O'Neill? Or maybe it's a bet hedger on Fries.

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#7 · Apr 25, 9:18 AM
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MaroonBells wrote:

Tiernan is enormous. Almost 6-8, 323. Like that the Vikings are going bigger on their lines. Do you think the Vikings were a bit stung by the tackle injuries last year? We now have Van Demark and Tiernan. Bigger spends than we typically devote to swing tackles. You kind of expect 3rd round tackles to eventually start. Does this mean we're not going to extend O'Neill? Or maybe it's a bet hedger on Fries.

The C run came earlier than I expected I thought for sure that was a position they would be addressing in top 100.

It'll be interesting to see where they groom the Northwestern kid.

edited Apr 25, 2026 9:29 AM

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#8 · Apr 25, 9:29 AM
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Kmerry82 wrote:

To be fair we didn’t just trade him for Jakobe Thomas. You turned him into Thomas plus a third in next years draft which is awfully close to 2nd round value. Now I was ok with Tackle and think he is ok but do think we got sniped by the Steelers for the big ginger. All in all it’s a pretty solid draft. I am fine with consolidating our picks for 2 really good picks. CB, RB, TE, C.

A 3rd for next year is always graded down a round, the pick this year was a comp back, 2nd last of 3rd round and next years will be a late pick, they are more like two 4ths and we didn't get screwed enough so we gave them a 7th too.

We could have let Greenard play this year and then had him walk which could have given us a 3rd or 4th round comp pick, so you essentially traded him for one 4th rounder.

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#9 · Apr 25, 10:49 AM
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Greenard wanted a bag, it is what it is. Dallas Turner needs to show out. I understand the need to grab OL. I am wondering about O'Neill and Darrisaw. I want them to cover as many bases as they can with OL. OL has been an issue on repeat and it's sickening. I love the size increase at OL. Love the DL's and LB, defense needs options. Both sets of trenches need all the help they can get. They also needed to free up money and get more picks.

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#10 · Apr 25, 11:15 AM
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JR44 wrote:


We could have let Greenard play this year and then had him walk which could have given us a 3rd or 4th round comp pick, so you essentially traded him for one 4th rounder.

I dont believe JG had any intention of playing for the Vikings under the existing contract...The choice very likely for the Vikings was a sit in/hold out or trade and get what u can.

edited Apr 25, 2026 11:38 AM

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#11 · Apr 25, 11:16 AM
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JR44 wrote:

A 3rd for next year is always graded down a round, the pick this year was a comp back, 2nd last of 3rd round and next years will be a late pick, they are more like two 4ths and we didn't get screwed enough so we gave them a 7th too.
We could have let Greenard play this year and then had him walk which could have given us a 3rd or 4th round comp pick, so you essentially traded him for one 4th rounder.

Greenard was signed thru the 2027 season. That comp pick wouldn't have come until the 2028 draft.

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#12 · Apr 25, 11:29 AM
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JustInTime wrote:

I think it suggests we don’t want to be caught short at OT again. Skule was not serviceable. I think it also means they are comfortable with Brandel or possibly Jurgens at C. Definitely a perplexing move at the time, but it’s growing on me.
Dig in a bit on Thomas. I think you’ll be pleased. Honestly, I’m embarrassed I didn’t unearth him before now.
The Greenard trade stings, but in the long run it’s pretty beneficial if K1 hits and we need to pay him. Chess, not checkers.

Low on the list of things that would keep me up at night is worrying about a DB that was hand picked by Flores.

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#13 · Apr 25, 11:33 AM
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Kmerry82 wrote:

To be fair we didn’t just trade him for Jakobe Thomas. You turned him into Thomas plus a third in next years draft which is awfully close to 2nd round value. Now I was ok with Tackle and think he is ok but do think we got sniped by the Steelers for the big ginger. All in all it’s a pretty solid draft. I am fine with consolidating our picks for 2 really good picks. CB, RB, TE, C.

Next years picks are lower in value, so it is a 4th rounder.

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#14 · Apr 25, 11:53 AM
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The absolute best jab ever delivered by a fan to the draft's home crowd.

Ravens fan of the year opened with:

"Pittsburgh! I'll make this short. Like your postseason ..."

edited Apr 25, 2026 4:23 PM

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#15 · Apr 25, 1:02 PM
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greediron wrote:

Next years picks are lower in value, so it is a 4th rounder.

So what would a late 3rd this year and a 4th this year get you? Early 3rd late 2nd.

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#16 · Apr 25, 4:09 PM
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