Trade Deadline

IceRatz16 wrote:

It’s possible, but man, he looks like he’s running in slow motion half the time.  By the time he finishes his route and turns his head, the ball’s already in the next zip code.  He’s out there moving like he’s in a race with a sloth...and losing.  His hands look like they’ve got lead weights strapped on; every catch attempt feels a second late.  That diving end zone grab was the only flash of vintage TJ we’ve seen all season.

It's entirely possible the Kirby Joseph cheap shot to the knee a couple years ago took away some of his overall speed and quickness. It's also possible that our problems on offense that have hampered everyone else have effected him and his overall production. 

On that note, if any of our lineman want to go low on Kirby Joseph on Sunday, it sure would put a smile on my face.

purplefaithful wrote:
IMO TJH is taking one for the team by being asked to block so much...I think we can look to draft a TE next year, but I'd tread lightly with Hock for now.

My gut says his production drop-off is how he is being used as much or more than anything. Might be plenty of gas in tank and burst in the step. We're just not privy to it much.

He's cooked mate

supafreak84 wrote:

It's entirely possible the Kirby Joseph cheap shot to the knee a couple years ago took away some of his overall speed and quickness. It's also possible that our problems on offense that have hampered everyone else have effected him and his overall production. 

On that note, if any of our lineman want to go low on Kirby Joseph on Sunday, it sure would put a smile on my face.

greediron wrote:
Kirby is a DNP for two days straight with a knee.  Likely not going to play?

Damn...

Ironic it's a knee

StickierBuns wrote:
The Purple Persuasion

@TPPSkol
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Wow!
@AlbertBreer
says the Vikings are BUYERS and not sellers with the trade deadline coming up on Tuesday.

Breer says the Vikings are specially looking for a CB.

In the summer I thought it was possible the Vikings could make a move for Sauce Gardner if the Jets were terrible, the Vikings were headed for the playoffs and Sauce was still on his rookie contract. Only one of those things is definitely true. 

Another corner the Vikings have been tied to in the past is Greg Newsome. But that seems unlikely with the Jags having a better record than the Vikings.

Kidding yourselves into thinking Jeff Okudah could play is the sort of thing that could have you looking to acquire a cb at the deadline.

I would think they are going to see how Sunday plays out first, unless JJ has a miraculous turnaround, I just would not see how it would make sense to be buyers.

Another position the Vikings might look at is center, but I think that only happens if Kelly intends to retire. Priority #1 for the Vikings is protecting the largest investment they've ever made at the QB position. I don't think you want to go deep into the season wondering how McCarthy might have played given better protection. They have to eliminate those questions to get clarity on McCarthy.

StickierBuns wrote:
The Purple Persuasion

@TPPSkol
·
Wow!
@AlbertBreer
says the Vikings are BUYERS and not sellers with the trade deadline coming up on Tuesday.

Breer says the Vikings are specially looking for a CB.

of course they are,  KAM has to do something to try and cover up his inability to use draft picks effectively so he trades them away... If something bad were to happen to KAM... I would be looking at Brez first,  his job has gotten infinitely harder with KAM running the show.

Deadline will probably be a nothingburger as usual. I'd prefer to keep our talented players but of the one's with even a slight chance of being dealt, Addison probably has some nice trade value. But then you're left with Jefferson + Hock/Nailor/Thielen/A. Jones, aka four guys who probably won't be on the team next year. So I don't see that happening.

Ironically one guy who could have some value and could maaaaybe be expendable if we get smoked by Detroit and decide the season is toast, is Jordan Mason.

I think what happens in Detroit is not likely to influence trading at all.

Despite 3/4 and typical Viking drama, this season is still all about what do they have in JJM?

Trading away any of his weapons pretty much takes a piss on everything they've done to date to give him the best chance to be at his best.

The Purple Persuasion

@TPPSkol
·
Wow!
@AlbertBreer
says the Vikings are BUYERS and not sellers with the trade deadline coming up on Tuesday.

Breer says the Vikings are specially looking for a CB.

purplefaithful wrote:
I think what happens in Detroit is not likely to influence trading at all.

Despite 3/4 and typical Viking drama, this season is still all about what do they have in JJM?

Trading away any of his weapons pretty much takes a piss on everything they've done to date to give him the best chance to be at his best.

Vikings won't trade anything away from the offense. They need to give JJ the full Ferrari....or as close as it can get without its starting center. I could see a trade on defense though—maybe Allen or Hargrave? Mostly likely they'll either stand pat or add a player.

unless they can get youth on a cheap contract with remaining years (multiple) without giving up day 1 or 2 picks... then I say keep the damn picks and if KAM cant figure out how to use them correctly, then find somebody who can. The load he spent on Turner alone would be enough for me to fire him. I thought it was stupid at the time and still do.

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 I don't think you want to go deep into the season wondering how McCarthy might have played given better protection. They have to eliminate those questions to get clarity on McCarthy.
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Undoubtedly and a great point, but methinks they won't be able to get that clarity with this line unfortunately.

Wonder if anything Vikings did today has swayed their front office.

They have depth concerns at some positions.

Depends who's available?

Mattyman wrote:
Wonder if anything Vikings did today has swayed their front office.

They have depth concerns at some positions.

Depends who's available?

Please no.