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Day 2 Dreaming

JustInTime
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“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

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#1 · Apr 25, 1:36 AM
StickierBuns
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Probably not. They pick at the end of round 3, correct? I wouldn't have my sights sets on any one player because you'll sit and watch them go one by one before Minnesota picks. Almost impossible to project who will be there.

#22 · Apr 25, 6:39 AM
StickierBuns
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Maybe DL Shemar Turner?

#23 · Apr 25, 6:45 AM
Bullazin
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Devin Neal
Jacob Parrish
Dorian Strong
Savion Williams
Ty Robinson
Jordan Phillips

@97 names I like

#24 · Apr 25, 7:40 AM
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If we do a trade back scenario at 97 to get an early 4th and some change on Day 3...

Guys I like around that range:
Billy Bowman (S)
Andrew Mukuba (S)
Savion Williams (WR)
Jordan James (RB)
R.J. Harvey (RB)
JJ Pegues (DT)
Deon Walker (DT)

#25 · Apr 25, 8:01 AM
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Waterboy wrote:

I don't really see a reason to continue the raid on our future picks.  This is an average draft, and we can fill a lot of our remaining needs with the three picks we have left, FA, and then Rookie FA.      Nobody out there really makes me want to lose a 2nd rounder next year at this point.


That's how I feel. Just stick and pick the rest of this Draft and hit the UDFA market hard. Next year we'll be glad we have all of those picks.
#26 · Apr 25, 8:03 AM
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MaroonBells wrote:
Dustin Baker@DustBaker If you want the Vikings to trade back into Round 2 tonight, that is fine. But a reminder that next year's picks are about 55%-60% of their value. So, for example, to trade to about No. 40 or so, they'd have to give up Pick No. 97, a 2026 2nd-Rounder, and probably an extra 5th.

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I'd do this for Henderson, but that might be the only player I'd do this for. Just fyi, Henderson's consensus value is between 35 and 45. Man, do not make me start dreaming of Henderson behind the Maul of America. Btw, @"JustInTime" you need to TM that.

If that's a realistic possibility, you'd do that in a heartbeat, each and every day of the week.  In all reality our 2026 2nd picks is going to be roughly close to our current draft position (24th in the round).  It'd be like trading up plus getting your pick a year early for practically a 4th and a 5th.  Only downside is that you're cutting down on your quantity of picks you're getting.  Maybe 3 picks in a year is a little too lean, but I'd trade that for my secret draft crush Jaylin Noel.

#27 · Apr 25, 8:39 AM
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Bullazin wrote:
Devin Neal Jacob Parrish Dorian Strong Savion Williams Ty Robinson Jordan Phillips

@97 names I like

Great list, all would be solid picks.  I especially like Neal and Williams there, although think they would be more likely to go with Strong or Robinson.

#28 · Apr 25, 8:44 AM
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2025 NFL Draft: Top 5 remaining players at every position (Per PFF)  :P

Running Backs

1. Cameron Skattebo, Arizona State

Skattebo plays the game in a manner that is easy to love: with a massive chip on his shoulder. NFL teams will gravitate toward his mentality, balance, tackle-breaking ability and after-contact consistency. He has the physical makeup of a three-down back.

2. Dylan Sampson, Tennessee

Sampson is a speedster who pairs explosiveness with patience and vision. He has big-play potential behind any blocking scheme and could develop into a plus receiver, though he must cut down on fumbles.

3. Kaleb Johnson, Iowa

Johnson is a physically gifted running back who excels with the ball in his hands. As an early-down player, he can be successful behind any blocking scheme with good vision, light footwork and impressive burst and power. However, his lack of polish and reliability in third-down situations could keep him from being an every-down running back.

4. TreVeyon Henderson, Ohio State

Henderson, when playing confidently, shines with his agility and long speed. He lacks some size for tackle-breaking and pass-blocking, but he remains a high-effort player in those areas. He seems like a good speed component of an NFL committee, including for receiving work out of the backfield.

5. Quinshon Judkins, Ohio State

Judkins is a strong north-to-south runner who generates impressive speed-to-power for consistent yards after the catch. However, his game lacks the creativity needed to consistently win in the NFL, independent of his offensive line. Behind a good line, he could rack up yards. Behind a subpar one, he could struggle to stand out.

Tight Ends

1. Elijah Arroyo, Miami (FL)

Arroyo is a receiving tight end through and through who can line up as a wingback and in the slot. An NFL team hoping for a consistent blocker will be disappointed, though. If given a chance to show off his all-around athleticism, he can be a contributor as a big slot type.

2. Mason Taylor, LSU

Taylor is young and could still be growing into his talent and, more importantly, his strength. In his current form, he is a TE2/3 candidate — more of a move tight end detached from the line of scrimmage as a receiver — but if he gets stronger, he can be a more versatile and consistent contributor.

3. Terrance Ferguson, Oregon

Ferguson is a nice receiving tight end with the length to play some inline snaps. His lower run-blocking impact marks indicate that an NFL team won't want to use him much in that way. His true value is as a receiver and a TE2.

4. Harold Fannin Jr., Bowling Green

Fannin is a strong receiving tight end with great value after the catch. His blocking reps are good enough to keep him inline as a TE2 or as a wingback on occasion, but his bread and butter in the NFL will be as a tight end who you can quickly get the ball to for after-the-catch production in a tight end-centric passing attack.

5. Gunnar Helm, Texas

Helm has worked his way into becoming one of the class' best after-the-catch tight ends. He isn't the strongest run blocker, but he does have good feet in pass protection. Getting stronger would give him more opportunities as a TE2 with starting potential.

Interior defensive linemen

1. Omarr Norman-Lott, Tennessee

Norman-Lott possesses more NFL potential than his snap counts and stats say; look at his grades and win rates for a clearer picture. He is an athletically gifted, undersized 3-technique who, with better hand usage and pass-rush plans, can be a contributing starter.

2. Darius Alexander, Toledo

Alexander was lightly recruited and was a late bloomer in college football (he will be 25 in his rookie season), but his measurables and strength are NFL-caliber. He is a contributing NFL defensive lineman at worst due to his strength profile, with starting-caliber impact potential in odd and even fronts.

3. T.J. Sanders, South Carolina

Sanders is a true 3-technique who wins with linear and lateral quickness to shoot gaps and disrupt. He must improve his hand precision and play strength to be a full-time starter. At worst, he is a contributing rotational 3-technique.

4. CJ West, Indiana

West is on the shorter side (length) but has good size (mass) and burst as a nose tackle who can have strong reps in run defense and some surprisingly impactful reps as a pass-rusher. If he can keep his pad level down, he can be a contributing rotational player in the NFL, preferably in a 4-3 front.

5. Alfred Collins, Texas

Collins is a long, strong interior defensive lineman with the versatility to play anywhere from 0-technique to 5-technique. His pass-rush profile and inability to disengage quickly limit his ceiling, but his versatility and strength give him a high floor. He projects as a rotational player with starting potential.

Linebackers

1. Demetrius Knight Jr., South Carolina

Knight will be one of the oldest prospects in the 2025 NFL Draft, but he is a mature player with good processing and fundamentally sound tackling. His run-defense angles can be a bit overaggressive, but you'll take that trade-off due to how well he moves in coverage and when pursuing ball carriers.

2. Carson Schwesinger, UCLA

Schwesinger is light for an NFL linebacker, but his elite processing speed and intelligence give him starter and impact ability as a Mike or Will linebacker for a 4-3 defense.

3. Chris Paul Jr., Mississippi

Paul needs to add some mass to his frame, but he can eventually become a starting Will linebacker in the league, thanks to his athleticism and intelligence.

4. Danny Stutsman, Oklahoma

If you want a thumping downhill linebacker, Stutsman is your guy. He's too often a liability in coverage, though, which could limit him to early downs at the next level.

5. Jeffrey Bassa, Oregon

Bassa is an intriguing former safety who now has a home at the linebacker level. Despite his lower weight for the position, he is not shy about making contact or doing dirty work. He is a smooth mover but does lack some twitch, which can be mitigated with continued improvement in anticipation. A vocal leader at Oregon, he could be a nice coverage linebacker in any scheme.

Cornerbacks

1. Will Johnson, Michigan

Johnson is a long, lean cornerback with elite foot quickness and change-of-direction fluidity. His limited long speed will create questions about his man coverage reliability in the NFL, but having him play off coverage with his eyes on the ball as a zone-scheme wide cornerback could allow him to make impactful plays more often.

2. Trey Amos, Mississippi

Amos brings an ideal blend of size, movement skills and coverage scheme versatility to the cornerback position. While his explosiveness and speed aren't anything special, his 2024 film shows he has a CB2 floor in the NFL with the potential to be a CB1.

3. Benjamin Morrison, Notre Dame

Morrison is a smart, smooth-moving man coverage cornerback with good instincts for making plays on the ball. Getting back to form after hip surgery and getting a bit stronger are the keys to a future starting outside cornerback role in a man coverage system — but really any system.

4. Shavon Revel, East Carolina

Revel is the ideal Day 2 athletic alien to draft and develop, despite inconsistent anticipation and technique in his current form. His physical gifts (including height and length) point to press-man coverage being his home in the NFL, but it will be quite the adjustment for him to go from one year of staring experience in the AAC to the NFL — especially off a torn ACL.

5. Darien Porter, Iowa State

Porter is a rare prospect. He is a wide receiver-turned-cornerback with ideal ball skills, ranks above the 95th percentile in height and length and has an elite track background that translates to the field. He is still raw as just a one-year starter despite being a sixth-year player, but his special teams impact and sky-high potential are worth drafting in the middle rounds.

Safeties

1. Kevin Winston Jr., Penn State

Winston's tape and the athleticism that he showed off in 2023 made him a prospect worthy of going in the first round. While his recent injury muddies his projection, he's still one of the top safeties available if he can fully recover.

2. Xavier Watts, Notre Dame

Watts is the best ball-hawking safety in this class thanks to his intelligence and ability to break on the football. That will have him drafted somewhere on Day 2, even with his tackling woes.

3. Andrew Mukuba, Texas

Mukuba's lack of a run-defense skill set may turn off some teams, but his instincts and athleticism in coverage make him a top prospect. His game is reminiscent of Devin McCourty, who excelled as a true free safety later in his career with the Patriots but had the savvy to make plays from a variety of alignments because of his football intelligence.

4. Nick Emmanwori, South Carolina

Emmanwori is a challenging prospect who will require a leap of faith, considering where he is likely to be drafted. His elite athleticism and playmaking ability suggest his ceiling could be on par with a player like Kerby Joseph, but his underwhelming box play and questionable technique and instincts are more reminiscent of Isaiah Simmons, who was drafted in the first round in 2020 but has struggled to find a natural NFL position.

5. Lathan Ransom, Ohio State

Toughness and tenacity are Ransom's calling cards, which he makes good use of in all facets of the game. While he may lack the tools some other prospects have, he has the instincts and awareness to make up for it.

All positions can be viewed here:

 https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2025-nfl-draft-top-5-remaining-players-at-every-position

edited Apr 25, 2025 9:05 AM
#29 · Apr 25, 8:44 AM
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PFF is way lower on Tre Henderson and Alfred Collins than most people.

#30 · Apr 25, 10:35 AM
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MaroonBells wrote:
PFF is way lower on Tre Henderson and Alfred Collins than most people.

Yea I don’t agree with some of their rankings, however it’s a pretty comprehensive list…

#31 · Apr 25, 10:50 AM
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MAD GAINZ wrote:
I think Henderson is going to be a stud and is a perfect Aaron Jones replacement.  Especially with Jordan Mason on the roster.  He's a guy worth moving up for...

Watch out for the Bears to grab him well before we can ever think about it.

#32 · Apr 25, 10:55 AM
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Waterboy wrote:

Watch out for the Bears to grab him well before we can ever think about it.

Truth...

KAM has some nice connections with Cleveland org though...

I know, just dreaming.

Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger! 

#33 · Apr 25, 11:13 AM
JustInTime
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JustInTime wrote:

Maul of America™

Ugh, heard something much better.

Great Wall of St Paul.

MAD GAINZ wrote:
If we do a trade back scenario at 97 to get an early 4th and some change on Day 3...

Guys I like around that range:
Billy Bowman (S)
Andrew Mukuba (S)
Savion Williams (WR)
Jordan James (RB)
R.J. Harvey (RB)
JJ Pegues (DT)
Deon Walker (DT)

Walker played with a fracture in his back this year. Kirwin keeps calling him a 0 technique. He’ll certainly clog passing lanes. Raekwon Davis 2.0. Might be on BFlo’s radar. But Pegues is my guy for that spot and goal line back lol.

edited Apr 25, 2025 12:48 PM

“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

Shakespeare 

#34 · Apr 25, 12:38 PM
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Hard to believe some of these quarterbacks still on the board. Any chance we grab one? We literally have one quarterback right now

#35 · Apr 25, 4:47 PM
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supafreak84 wrote:
Hard to believe some of these quarterbacks still on the board. Any chance we grab one? We literally have one quarterback right now

in our trade down last night we didn't add any picks, merely upgraded our 6th to a 5th, so we only have two picks left. I don't think QB will be one of them. I think Rypien is our QB3 and we'll add a veteran QB2 at some point before camp.

#36 · Apr 26, 4:00 AM
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supafreak84 wrote:

Hard to believe some of these quarterbacks still on the board. Any chance we grab one? We literally have one quarterback right now


I do think its possible. I really like Kyle McCord as a developmental guy, not sure what the Vikings think. May come the UDFA route.
#37 · Apr 26, 4:20 AM
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