Forum The Longship 2025 NFL Free Agency and Draft: CB

2025 NFL Free Agency and Draft: CB

MaroonBells
Joined Jan 2014
4,281 posts
Rep: 4,469

Kiper released his first mock yesterday and has the Vikings taking CB Benjamin Morrison. Interestingly, in his position rankings, he has Shavon Revel ranked ahead of both Morrison and Barron. Revel tore his ACL in September. He should be fine by training camp, but he's probably going to miss the combine, pro days and OTAs. Revel is intriguing, but do the Vikings want two corners returning from ACLs? 

24. Minnesota Vikings
Benjamin Morrison, CB, Notre Dame

Minnesota has big-time cornerback questions. All three starters -- Stephon Gilmore, Shaquill Griffin and slot guy Byron Murphy Jr . -- are free agents, along with backup Fabian Moreau . So, even though the Vikings led the NFL in interceptions by quite a bit (24, five more than second best), they might have to restock their CB room in the draft. Morrison missed all but six games in 2024 with a hip injury, but he's a top-tier cover man. He has sound technique, and he has the ball skills to keep Minnesota's INT total high. Morrison had nine picks and 21 pass breakups over his career.

Liked:
#1 · Jan 23, 1:46 AM
MaroonBells
Joined Jan 2014
4,281 posts
Rep: 4,469
supafreak84 wrote:
I just don't think this is a particularly strong group of prospects at corner this year and two of the better ones in Revel and Morrison are coming off major injuries. I think you'll only see two maybe three corners go in the 1st round, Hunter, Johnson and Barron. The Vikings still have a need at the position and I hope they don't reach for one out of need. If Barron falls in your lap at #24, great, otherwise hoping they look at another position

With Murphy back, and Blackmon and Rodgers capable of starting, the Vikings may think they're OK waiting for a top talent to return to full health. Revel, for example, was considered a top 12 corner before his injury. And Kwesi obviously sees market opportunities in players who are discounted due to injury. However, I sense that Revel's injury is giving NFL teams pause. He's been dropping a little on the boards of some of the more connected media scouts. 

If the Vikings are targeting a corner, their best path would be to trade into the early-to-middle 2nd round. Thats where the value gets thick, with Thomas, Amos, Hairston, Porter, Revel and Morrison all likely 2nd round picks.

Liked:
#102 · Mar 23, 4:14 AM
supafreak84
Joined Jan 2014
1,529 posts
Rep: 1,435
MaroonBells wrote:

With Murphy back, and Blackmon and Rodgers capable of starting, the Vikings may think they're OK waiting for a top talent to return to full health. Revel, for example, was considered a top 12 corner before his injury. And Kwesi obviously sees market opportunities in players who are discounted due to injury. However, I sense that Revel's injury is giving NFL teams pause. He's been dropping a little on the boards of some of the more connected media scouts. 

If the Vikings are targeting a corner, their best path would be to trade into the early-to-middle 2nd round. Thats where the value gets thick, with Thomas, Amos, Hairston, Porter, Revel and Morrison all likely 2nd round picks.

I think corner is the one position on the team you look at now and go we could use another guy there and some depth. I agree with you that the second round would be the better value area to take a corner, but yeah there's no way I'm reaching for a one at #24 or bypassing a top ranked lineman or Treyveon Henderson to trade down and take a corner.

Liked:
#103 · Mar 23, 5:33 AM
MaroonBells
Joined Jan 2014
4,281 posts
Rep: 4,469

Wow, talk about a piece of clay. A corner not many are talking about is Darien Porter from Iowa State. 6-3, 197, ran a 4.30, 33-inch arms, academic All Big 12. A former track star and WR, his first time playing cornerback was the 2024 season and he played well. Allowed a ridiculous 4.7 passer rating. 

Not sure this is a Flores guy tho. Flores values instincts, versatility and man skills. I doubt Porter is his ideal corner, but man the upside on this kid is nuts.

Liked:
#104 · Mar 24, 2:34 AM
JustInTime
Joined Feb 2025
2,356 posts
Rep: 1,520
JustInTime wrote:
https://x.com/fball_insights/status/1896365058332209268?s=46&t=TjjB9Q4BmOwmN74RrrMjoQ

Bumping this. Looks like Porter is horrific in man, decent in zone. Is this a deal breaker for a team that spent a lot of time in quarters, two high, and a third zone variant that I can’t recall at the moment? Probably not. 

I’m guessing we play more zone because we can’t play man. If healthy, Revel looks like a complete stud.

edited Mar 24, 2025 3:04 AM

“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

Shakespeare 

Liked:
#105 · Mar 24, 3:03 AM
Canthony
Joined Oct 2013
691 posts
Rep: 419

I think Barron, Revel, Amos best fit what we do here with Flores. A month ago, I thought Amos was strictly a zone corner. Then watching him more and reading, he can play both really well. I was wrong on Amos. Revel is who I want and have wanted. Drafting a #1 corner off an ACL, that happened in practice, is a bit concerning. Will that hinder what happens in the NFL, will it be a continuous problem, and how will that affect how he plays moving forward. Not sure how other corners come back from ACLs and if it affects them. Maybe Maroon can answer that more.

Liked:
#106 · Mar 24, 3:19 AM
MaroonBells
Joined Jan 2014
4,281 posts
Rep: 4,469
JustInTime wrote:

Bumping this. Looks like Porter is horrific in man, decent in zone. Is this a deal breaker for a team that spent a lot of time in quarters, two high, and a third zone variant that I can’t recall at the moment? Probably not. 

I’m guessing we play more zone because we can’t play man. If healthy, Revel looks like a complete stud.

Like I said, I doubt he's right for us, but some team with the patience who's willing to teach him how to play corner is going to get a Harbor Freight store full of tools with this kid. 

I think you're right about man/zone. Put a shut down corner like Sauce on this team and you'll see a big shift in that breakdown, and likely even more blitzes.

Liked:
#107 · Mar 24, 3:29 AM
JustInTime
Joined Feb 2025
2,356 posts
Rep: 1,520

“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

Shakespeare 

Liked:
#108 · Mar 24, 4:15 AM
supafreak84
Joined Jan 2014
1,529 posts
Rep: 1,435
JustInTime wrote:
I’m guessing we play more zone because we can’t play man. If healthy, Revel looks like a complete stud.

Ditto on Morrison who was highly proficient in either scheme. Best corner I've seen at ND since Todd Lyght. His injury was a real shame because he was a top 10 lock

Liked:
#109 · Mar 24, 4:42 AM
JustInTime
Joined Feb 2025
2,356 posts
Rep: 1,520
supafreak84 wrote:

Ditto on Morrison who was highly proficient in either scheme. Best corner I've seen at ND since Todd Lyght. His injury was a real shame because he was a top 10 lock

I see he was cleared about a month ago. Torn labrum in the hip seems pretty catastrophic for a CB.

“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

Shakespeare 

Liked:
#110 · Mar 24, 4:48 AM
supafreak84
Joined Jan 2014
1,529 posts
Rep: 1,435
JustInTime wrote:

I see he was cleared about a month ago. Torn labrum in the hip seems pretty catastrophic for a CB.

Yup, most torn labrum's you see are shoulder injuries not hip injuries. His workout and medicals will be worth monitoring because he's an excellent player otherwise.

Liked:
#111 · Mar 24, 5:27 AM
JustInTime
Joined Feb 2025
2,356 posts
Rep: 1,520

PR is a nice hook.

“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

Shakespeare 

Liked:
#112 · Mar 24, 6:48 AM
JustInTime
Joined Feb 2025
2,356 posts
Rep: 1,520

Recent trend is towards S.

I see the rest of the world is catching up to me.  :cool:

edited Mar 24, 2025 9:28 AM

“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

Shakespeare 

Liked:
#113 · Mar 24, 8:37 AM
JustInTime
Joined Feb 2025
2,356 posts
Rep: 1,520

“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

Shakespeare 

Liked:
#114 · Mar 25, 4:52 AM
JustInTime
Joined Feb 2025
2,356 posts
Rep: 1,520

“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

Shakespeare 

Liked:
#115 · Mar 25, 6:08 AM
purplefaithful
Joined May 2013
7,580 posts
Rep: 4,167

Interesting how these mocks have shifted over time...

The shift is significant toward safety, which makes sense considering how in limbo the safety room is. Plus, both Starks and Emmanwori play a position that is often devalued in the first round of the NFL Draft.

Things are likely to continue changing, but secondary being the focus is likely to continue.

Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger! 

Liked:
#116 · Mar 25, 6:19 AM
JustInTime
Joined Feb 2025
2,356 posts
Rep: 1,520
purplefaithful wrote:
Interesting how these mocks have shifted over time...

The shift is significant toward safety, which makes sense considering how in limbo the safety room is. Plus, both Starks and Emmanwori play a position that is often devalued in the first round of the NFL Draft.

Things are likely to continue changing, but secondary being the focus is likely to continue.

Definitely trending. I just caught it early.  :cool:

“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

Shakespeare 

Liked:
#117 · Mar 25, 6:22 AM
purplefaithful
Joined May 2013
7,580 posts
Rep: 4,167
JustInTime wrote:

Definitely trending. I just caught it early.  :cool:

It takes me longer to come to clarity lol!

I think I believe this with April just a week away:

Tier 1
First, they would love to take a CB if the right one is there
Second, they would take a DT if the right one is there, not at the expense of a value CB

Tier 2
If the CB or DT they want isnt there, they go RB, S or IOL - take your pick 

Trade scenarios are far to numerous to figure in. 

there, Im at peace till draft night.

Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger! 

Liked:
#118 · Mar 25, 6:27 AM
JustInTime
Joined Feb 2025
2,356 posts
Rep: 1,520
purplefaithful wrote:

It takes me longer to come to clarity lol!

I think I believe this with April just a week away:

Tier 1
First, they would love to take a CB if the right one is there
Second, they would take a DT if the right one is there, not at the expense of a value CB

Tier 2
If the CB or DT they want isnt there, they go RB, S or IOL - take your pick 

Trade scenarios are far to numerous to figure in. 

there, Im at peace till draft night.

I’ve got to believe that’s the way the brain trust is thinking too. 

I’d say it’s far more likely the DT they like is there than the CB. Harmon is giving me some KWill vibes. 

If neither is there I think it’s down to S or iOL. Jeremiah has given us a S in two of his three mocks. The nice thing about Starks is he’s played in the slot, out wide, in the box and deep. He could easily be our own Brian Branch. Seeing how BFlo values being able to play multiple positions, I can see the draw. 

Emmanwori is just a complete beast. I think his game would be better suited closer to the ball. Spy. Slot. Dime backer. ST demon (which has been a priority). When Harry is done Emmanwori takes over for Mettelus who slides to Hitman’s spot. I think it’s likely he’s off the board before 24. 

If we go iOL, Booker is just a great fit. Tone setter. Another leader type. Soul snatcher. As we continue towards more gap, man, duo he becomes a hand in glove fit.

“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

Shakespeare 

Liked:
#119 · Mar 25, 6:47 AM
MaroonBells
Joined Jan 2014
4,281 posts
Rep: 4,469

Been hearing a lot about CB Nohl Williams. 4th round projection. 6-0, 200 lbs and a ridiculous amount of INTs. 14 in the last two seasons. But if you watch his highlights, you see a lot of pop flies. The first play in this video is one of those. He won't see idiotic passes like that in the NFL. Or will he? Note who throws it. 

Liked:
#120 · Mar 26, 8:59 AM
JustInTime
Joined Feb 2025
2,356 posts
Rep: 1,520

Another CB who medicals will be key.

“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

Shakespeare 

Liked:
#121 · Mar 27, 1:14 AM
Log in to reply.

Edit Post (mod action — author will see a notice)

Warn Poster

Suspend User (3 days)

The user will be suspended for 3 days and will receive an email with the reason and information about how to appeal.

Forum The Longship 2025 NFL Free Agency and Draft: CB

Welcome to VikeFans!

Welcome back, Skol fans! This is our new home. Log in with your username or email and your existing password.


Be sure to check out the How To's and Questions forum for guides on getting around the new site, and use the Help Request forum if you run into anything that you need help with. Skol!