The football world has lost their minds....

Ha! I have a feeling we're going to see a lot of this shit. How long before Mike Florio says the Vikings should trade JJ, and Charlie Walters hears this and says he's "hearing" that the Vikings could trade JJ, before Florio uses Walters as an "inside source" confirming all this? Oh it's already happened, just the other JJ.

A few months ago this kind of talk was insane and as a JJM fan, I wouldn't trade him, however if the Vikes really believed that Darnold was a long time solution, would getting a huge haul for JJM really be something they would have to consider. Just think of this year's version of Darnold along with some draft picks that could improve our OL, DL and secondary.

What a let down for JJ that would have to be. Going from KOC to the shit show that is the Jets.

I believe there is zero chance they trade JJ. Think back to ‘98 when Brad Johnson got hurt, Cunningham had an all world season, then settled back to not really wanting to play in ‘99 and Johnson went on to be a Super Bowl Champion QB. (I know it was the defense). they traded the future for a single season. I don’t think Kwesi will do that.

I feel like 2 weeks ago I was told there's 0.0% chance JJM gets traded lol. Things move fast in the NFL. Just about everything is for sale, for a price. We desperately tried to get the Patriots to "take our money" last draft and they declined. I'm guessing the Vikings will be the ones doing the rebuffing this year, but I bet KO and KAM will enjoy being on the other side of it.

My preference is Sam and JJM are both back, but if that doesn't happen let's recoup assets for the odd man out. I'm glad the media is coming around to this idea. Letting Sam walk would be lunacy and the more people shouting that into a microphone the better, I say.

pattersaur wrote:
I feel like 2 weeks ago I was told there's 0.0% chance JJM gets traded lol. Things move fast in the NFL. Just about everything is for sale, for a price. We desperately tried to get the Patriots to "take our money" last draft and they declined. I'm guessing the Vikings will be the ones doing the rebuffing this year, but I bet KO and KAM will enjoy being on the other side of it.

My preference is Sam and JJM are both back, but if that doesn't happen let's recoup assets for the odd man out. I'm glad the media is coming around to this idea. Letting Sam walk would be lunacy and the more people shouting that into a microphone the better, I say.

I agree. While I think it's very unlikely, I no longer think there is a zero percent chance JJ gets traded. I also agree that the best case scenario for the Vikings might be to just keep them both. At least for a year. 

But if someone offers a stupid trade for one or the other? I think we should maybe listen. I would love to have BOTH of them under contract if or when that happens.

You always got to listen...KAM wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't pick-up the phone when it rings. 

I'm also in the camp that I would like to keep both for a year. It buys us time, lets us further assess JJM. Get some assets when one leaves.

I dont know what the hell I do with Dimes in that scenario? I think thats where this moves to 3d chess in terms of options and possibilities.

If we trade JJ McCarthy, I'm done with this franchise.

The smart, prudent thing to do is keep Darnold and JJ for one more season and let JJ compete for the job. If he wins it, trade Darnold. If he doesn't, Darnold can keep this team competitive in 2025 and we keep developing JJ.

No guarantee this version of Sam sticks in 2025. And if he does, why wouldn't we want to have a young, talented QB behind him that is entering his 2nd year as insurance in the event Darnold misses time?

Remember when we had Kirk and no one behind him? Kirk blows his Achilles and our season was toast without a viable option to step in. We'd be idiots to go back to that scenario one year after getting burned by it.

There is no reason to even entertain the thought of trading JJ. I personally think that they feel there is no way they will trade away JJ, whom they love, for a one year wonder, as of now. Now if he repeats on the franchise tag, which I feel that is the way they will go, then its a definite conversation in 2026

essentially a first, 2-4ths, and 4th round draft pick back up RB? Get the fuck out..... we used a first and gave up a 4th and 5th for JJM and a 7th, if JJM would really be the #1 overall pick or at least the #1 QB... then anything short of the haul it would take for a team to move up from their current position to get the #1 spot should be a starting point for JJM this year IMO, maybe a slight discount for the 1 year lost on a rookie deal, but we need to also account for the education we have given the lad.

I’d unload JJM for 2x 1sts and 2x 3rds from the Jets.

I love Sam as much as anybody, but if we trade JJ then we just throw out everything we did to get this team in a position to compete for years and not just 1 surprising season. I am not against franchising Sam this next season but beyond that…. I don’t know about that.

Devil’s advocate here—if we get to the SB and Sam kicks ass so well that he’s named SB MVP and we FINALLY have a Lombardi….. then I got nothing for a solution to this situation. I could see the Wilves saying hell no we aren’t letting our SB winning QB walk for a kid who hasn’t even played 1 NFL game, and with a resume of 1 real good showing in a preseason game…and a lot of fans would agree with them…

Of course the cynical Vikings fan in me says no way this could happen anyway so stop worrying, but I will say this: If there was ever ever ever a year I thought we could get to the big show and win it, this might be the year. But then again I felt the same way in 98 and 09, so….

AGRforever wrote:
I’d unload JJM for 2x 1sts and 2x 3rds from the Jets.

No way!  If the Vikings think JJ McCarthy is a franchise QB (pretty sure they do from KOC's comments), you aren't trading him for anything.

Darnold is having a strong season.  He earned himself starting QB money and an opportunity to be our guy next year.  But the Vikings learned from last season how you need to have a strong QB room if you want to be competitive every season.

It's why we signed Darnold (former top 3 pick), drafted JJ McCarthy, and added Daniel Jones when he came available.  Our QB room has THREE former top 10 drafted QBs all 27 yrs or younger.  It's not a coincidence after we saw what it's like when you have a career backup and a late round pick as your next QBs up when your starter blows his Achilles mid-season.  If your starter goes down long-term and you have nothing behind him, you're fucked.

100% guaranteed we'll have Darnold/JJ McCarthy or Daniel Jones/JJ McCarthy as our top 2 QBs next year.

They're not trading JJM. This isn't a topic it's just social media engagement farming.

They're not trading JJ this offseason. That much I think is pretty clear. However, if they bring Sam back for 2025, which is very possible, then WHO they trade in a year or two is more open. But I will say this... JJ would have to look pretty bad this summer for the Vikings to choose to keep Sam's salary over JJ's salary.

MAD GAINZ wrote:

No way!  If the Vikings think JJ McCarthy is a franchise QB (pretty sure they do from KOC's comments), you aren't trading him for anything.

Darnold is having a strong season.  He earned himself starting QB money and an opportunity to be our guy next year.  But the Vikings learned from last season how you need to have a strong QB room if you want to be competitive every season.

It's why we signed Darnold (former top 3 pick), drafted JJ McCarthy, and added Daniel Jones when he came available.  Our QB room has THREE former top 10 drafted QBs all 27 yrs or younger.  It's not a coincidence after we saw what it's like when you have a career backup and a late round pick as your next QBs up when your starter blows his Achilles mid-season.  If your starter goes down long-term and you have nothing behind him, you're fucked.

100% guaranteed we'll have Darnold/JJ McCarthy or Daniel Jones/JJ McCarthy as our top 2 QBs next year.

I would make the trade because you could really stack the deck with 2x 1st rounders and 2x 3rd rounders the next 2 years. 

Maybe net you 4-5 starters out of that?  Cheap for 4-5 years. Resets our draft process since we dont have many picks this coming draft. 

If Flores stays, I think we should re-sign Sam. So blowing out our injured backup QB and set ourselves up for the next half decade makes sense to me.

AGRforever wrote:

I would make the trade because you could really stack the deck with 2x 1st rounders and 2x 3rd rounders the next 2 years. 

Maybe net you 4-5 starters out of that?  Cheap for 4-5 years. Resets our draft process since we dont have many picks this coming draft. 

If Flores stays, I think we should re-sign Sam. So blowing out our injured backup QB and set ourselves up for the next half decade makes sense to me.

KAM hasnt shown that he would hit on half those picks.  SD has had a great year,  but historically lots of QBs find lightning in a bottle and then return to their previous levels,  JJM is currently cheap insurance against that.  1 damn nice year from an a guy that was otherwise considered a bust doesnt come close to making JJM trade bait IMO.  

Even if he delivered a Lombardi,   JJM is still a Viking next year IMO.   A conversation at the trade deadline at the soonest if all was still looking promising for Sam.

https://www.minnesotasportsfan.com/minnesota-vikings/minnesota-vikings-news/jj-mccarthy-love-sam-darnold-gone/

comet52 wrote:
https://www.minnesotasportsfan.com/minnesota-vikings/minnesota-vikings-news/jj-mccarthy-love-sam-darnold-gone/

It would not surprise me (in the least) if JJM is our QB1 at some point in the next 2 years. 

Not convinced its next year, but who knows?

T. Nystrom is a HUGE JJM fan (more than Sticky) and he makes an  interesting point here:

This DM needed a wider audience pic.twitter.com/3993A5LgO7

— Thor Nystrom (@thorku) January 3, 2025