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Dallas Turner, Laiatu Latu and Jared Verse are bunched together in the 8 to 15 range. I've watched all three and it's hard to pick a favorite. But I think Verse might be a little stronger than the other two and has a better inside and bull rush as a result. 

#1 · Feb 15, 9:20 AM
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Latu's neck injury scares me. The Combine medicals are going to be big for him. I've seen Verse compared to George Karlaftis who I liked in the 2022 draft. He was drafted 30th overall by KC.

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@"Knucklehead" said: Latu's neck injury scares me. The Combine medicals are going to be big for him. I've seen Verse compared to George Karlaftis who I liked in the 2022 draft. He was drafted 30th overall by KC.


Karlaftis has been solid. The 22 and 21 drafts for KC were ridiculous, with Karlaftis and McDuffie last year and Creed Humphrey and Trey Smith the year before. 

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Sounds like Darius Robinson could be a lot closer to the top three edges than most early projections had him. Kiper calls him the hottest player in the draft right now, saying he could even go top 10. Probably more of a 4-3 DE type. 

#4 · Feb 17, 3:02 PM
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@"MaroonBells" said: Sounds like Darius Robinson could be a lot closer to the top three edges than most early projections had him. Kiper calls him the hottest player in the draft right now, saying he could even go top 10. Probably more of a 4-3 DE type. 


He really did look good at the senior bowl. Will be interesting to see how far he moves up.

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I'm a Dallas Tunner guy. I think he's got special bend and ability as a pass rusher. Long arms. Also he's only 21 (two years younger than Verse or Latu). Based on early evaluations, I'd probably stack my defensive board like this;

1. Turner
2. Byron Murphy
3. Verse 

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If we lose Hunter, this sure becomes a HUGE need. 

I'd so much rather be pairing one of these guys with Danielle vs hoping for a 4-6 sack season from a rook. 

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@"purplefaithful" said: If we lose Hunter, this sure becomes a HUGE need. 

I'd so much rather be pairing one of these guys with Danielle vs hoping for a 4-6 sack season from a rook. 


I hope we have a good idea on if we are going to be able to bring him back or not. If not, I'd at least like to see Wonnum brought back to give us some juice at least on one side. He looked good last year and really nailed down that other starting spot. 

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@"supafreak84" said:
@"purplefaithful" said: If we lose Hunter, this sure becomes a HUGE need. 

I'd so much rather be pairing one of these guys with Danielle vs hoping for a 4-6 sack season from a rook. 


I hope we have a good idea on if we are going to be able to bring him back or not. If not, I'd at least like to see Wonnum brought back to give us some juice at least on one side. He looked good last year and really nailed down that other starting spot. 

The progress that Wonnum has made so far in his injury rehab is going to be the biggest factor in deciding his contract term. If he's close to 100%, then he'll receive offers for multiple years & the higher bonuses that accompany it. If he's not progressing, then he may have to settle for a one year prove it contract.

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@"Knucklehead" said:
@"supafreak84" said:
@"purplefaithful" said: If we lose Hunter, this sure becomes a HUGE need. 

I'd so much rather be pairing one of these guys with Danielle vs hoping for a 4-6 sack season from a rook. 


I hope we have a good idea on if we are going to be able to bring him back or not. If not, I'd at least like to see Wonnum brought back to give us some juice at least on one side. He looked good last year and really nailed down that other starting spot. 

The progress that Wonnum has made so far in his injury rehab is going to be the biggest factor in deciding his contract term. If he's close to 100%, then he'll receive offers for multiple years & the higher bonuses that accompany it. If he's not progressing, then he may have to settle for a one year prove it contract.



Who knows, maybe Davenport comes back? I just read today that we will absorb a 6.8 million cap hit for him if an extension is not agreed upon by tonight. He did look good the one game he played 

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@"supafreak84" said:
@"Knucklehead" said:
@"supafreak84" said:
@"purplefaithful" said: If we lose Hunter, this sure becomes a HUGE need. 

I'd so much rather be pairing one of these guys with Danielle vs hoping for a 4-6 sack season from a rook. 


I hope we have a good idea on if we are going to be able to bring him back or not. If not, I'd at least like to see Wonnum brought back to give us some juice at least on one side. He looked good last year and really nailed down that other starting spot. 

The progress that Wonnum has made so far in his injury rehab is going to be the biggest factor in deciding his contract term. If he's close to 100%, then he'll receive offers for multiple years & the higher bonuses that accompany it. If he's not progressing, then he may have to settle for a one year prove it contract.



Who knows, maybe Davenport comes back? I just read today that we will absorb a 6.8 million cap hit for him if an extension is not agreed upon by tonight. He did look good the one game he played 


Update: The Vikings re-negotiated the void date on Marcus Davenport's deal this weekend. It now matches the expiration date for the deals of Kirk Cousins and Danielle Hunter (3/13). A little more time to see if there is any common ground. Davenport's deal will NOT void today.

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Its funny, Minnesota could get an excellent edge player at #11....somebody that would probably really help the D. But all I can think about is TQBOTF, lol. 

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@"StickyBun" said: Its funny, Minnesota could get an excellent edge player at #11....somebody that would probably really help the D. But all I can think about is TQBOTF, lol. 
Has this team ever really legitimately obtained one of these players you speak of…!? 
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@"Kentis" said:
@"StickyBun" said: Its funny, Minnesota could get an excellent edge player at #11....somebody that would probably really help the D. But all I can think about is TQBOTF, lol. 
Has this team ever really legitimately obtained one of these players you speak of…!? 
Culpepper Bridgewater (we can argue how high of a ceiling)

 I think they drafted Kramer too. 

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@"Kentis" said:
@"StickyBun" said: Its funny, Minnesota could get an excellent edge player at #11....somebody that would probably really help the D. But all I can think about is TQBOTF, lol. 
Has this team ever really legitimately obtained one of these players you speak of…!? 
Its a good question. I think Tommy Kramer and Daunte Culpepper are their best attempts. Tarkenton way, way back in the day of course, but he left and came back after they traded him. 
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@"purplefaithful" said:
@"Kentis" said:
@"StickyBun" said: Its funny, Minnesota could get an excellent edge player at #11....somebody that would probably really help the D. But all I can think about is TQBOTF, lol. 
Has this team ever really legitimately obtained one of these players you speak of…!? 
Culpepper Bridgewater (we can argue how high of a ceiling)

 I think they drafted Kramer too. 


Tommy Kramer

School:

Rice

Position: QB

Heisman Voting:

5th in 1976

Draft: 1st round, 27th overall of the 1977 NFL draft by the Minnesota Vikings

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@"purplefaithful" said:
@"Kentis" said:
@"StickyBun" said: Its funny, Minnesota could get an excellent edge player at #11....somebody that would probably really help the D. But all I can think about is TQBOTF, lol. 
Has this team ever really legitimately obtained one of these players you speak of…!? 
Culpepper Bridgewater (we can argue how high of a ceiling)

 I think they drafted Kramer too. 



Kramer qualifies. You know you're getting old when you remember drafting the old, beer-bellied white haired dude who signed your son's jersey at the bar last fall.

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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"purplefaithful" said:
@"Kentis" said:
@"StickyBun" said: Its funny, Minnesota could get an excellent edge player at #11....somebody that would probably really help the D. But all I can think about is TQBOTF, lol. 
Has this team ever really legitimately obtained one of these players you speak of…!? 
Culpepper Bridgewater (we can argue how high of a ceiling)

 I think they drafted Kramer too. 



Kramer qualifies. You know you're getting old when you remember drafting the old, beer-bellied white haired dude who signed your son's jersey at the bar last fall.


And you remember Kramer to Rashad too...

Edit:

 I was listening to Barreiro on the way home from work not long ago and he was interviewing this olde sounding dude with a Tx twang who I couldn't place.  

It was Kramer...Hard living, hard drinking, hard throwing dude. 

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@"purplefaithful" said:
@"MaroonBells" said:
@"purplefaithful" said:
@"Kentis" said:
@"StickyBun" said: Its funny, Minnesota could get an excellent edge player at #11....somebody that would probably really help the D. But all I can think about is TQBOTF, lol. 
Has this team ever really legitimately obtained one of these players you speak of…!? 
Culpepper Bridgewater (we can argue how high of a ceiling)

 I think they drafted Kramer too. 



Kramer qualifies. You know you're getting old when you remember drafting the old, beer-bellied white haired dude who signed your son's jersey at the bar last fall.


And you remember Kramer to Rashad too...

Edit:

 I was listening to Barreiro on the way home from work not long ago and he was interviewing this olde sounding dude with a Tx twang who I couldn't place.  

It was Kramer...Hard living, hard drinking, hard throwing dude. 



I thought Kramer would've drank himself to death by now. I know he still drinks, but he's learned to manage it. So good for him. 

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Dallas Turner's stock is creeping up.....now a top 10 pick on many mocks.

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Long arms for a 6-2 dude...

Dallas Turner

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9 7/8 hand

34 3/8 arm

83 wing

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