Cash More Important than Cap
- ANDREW BRANDT
- As we move toward the closest thing the NFL has to a true offseason, I thought it would be a good time to separate some fact from fiction about that amorphous thing called the salary cap. There is nothing in the massive machine of NFL information and coverage that is more misrepresented, misdiagnosed and often misinformed than discussion around the cap. Let’s examine what it is and, more importantly, what it isn’t through a few myths, with the theme being: It’s the cash, stupid, not the cap.
Then why have a cap at all? Because it is a way of keeping deep pocket owners from buying a superbowl, so while I see the premise, that deferred cap hits for cash up front are still hurting the teams ability to compete, just maybe not in the year the cash was paid out. So yes a over priced contract can hurt the franchise, not just the owner.
The only requirement is that teams spend a minimum of 90 percent of cap in cash over three year tranches. The new tranch is 24-26. The Browns actual payroll was more than $ 60 million than Vikings last year. They wanted to pay Dalvin Tomlinson and Vikings didn’t. The “cap” is a convenient excuse for teams than don’t want to spend. Vikings were 26th in payroll in 22, 22nd in 23. For 24 currently ranked 26th.
Good info here. Thanks for posting this.
@"smleh" said: The only requirement is that teams spend a minimum of 90 percent of cap in cash over three year tranches. The new tranch is 24-26. The Browns actual payroll was more than $ 60 million than Vikings last year. They wanted to pay Dalvin Tomlinson and Vikings didn’t. The “cap” is a convenient excuse for teams than don’t want to spend. Vikings were 26th in payroll in 22, 22nd in 23. For 24 currently ranked 26th.Well of they had to spend 90% and they were that low in 22 and 23, they must have been ranked much higher in 21, but in your saying payroll, is that in cap or cash? If it's cap that may just mean they had already paid it out in previous years and couldn't fit more cap under that year's cap. I don't recall them carrying much spare cap the last few years so they are spending it somewhere.
Ok, then let's pay JJ 35 mil, Cousins 45 mil, Hunter 30 mil, and sign the top 4 free agents.
I like Andrew Brandt, but whenever I hear someone making an argument, I wonder about their incentives and motivation. What is in it for them?
Andrew used to be on the team side of the game. I believe he is now on the player side. His incentive now is to tell players to get as much as they can; pay no attention to the cap; any time a player is released as a cap casualty that is just an owner who does not want to pay the player what he is worth. And he says that when he was negotiating for the Packers he would tell agents to make sure they got as much cash as possible for their player-clients and not to consider the cap at all. I am not ready to buy that one either. "Are we clear?"
And the notion that Brady and Mahomes have been bamboozled into accepting less cash in order to help out their billionaire owners is also hard for me to accept at face value.
Maybe everything Andrew said that is 100% true. Maybe. But I'm not ready to buy his argument yet. I will reserve judgment until we hear from the other side.
The #Vikings are hesitant to give Justin Jefferson fully guaranteed money after the first year in a new deal, per @ProFootballTalk.
— VikingzFanPage (@vikingzfanpage) February 18, 2024
“It’s not the dollars, it’s the structure. They don’t want to guarantee in-full money beyond the first year on a deal for anyone other than the… pic.twitter.com/p8lPRyT6bI
@"StickyBun" said: https://twitter.com/vikingzfanpage/status/1759045463624319429?s=19I'm a little worried that Kwesi might be a little too myopic in his approach to football finances. If you wanna win the game, you have to PLAY the game, even if it means spending more than you intended. Even if it means changing your mind or tweaking your long-term vision to accommodate for new and different information.
Adding $7M to everyone's cap space is no small thing.
@"MaroonBells" said: Adding $7M to everyone's cap space is no small thing.Well,The 2024 salary cap is coming. Some are expecting it to be in the range of $242 million to $243 million per team. At least one source said in response to that, "More."Another source says it will be closer to $250 million than $243 million.
Its $12 for McDonalds now, might as well be $250mm for an NFL Cap ;)
@"MaroonBells" said:@"StickyBun" said: https://twitter.com/vikingzfanpage/status/1759045463624319429?s=19 I'm a little worried that Kwesi might be a little too myopic in his approach to football finances. If you wanna win the game, you have to PLAY the game, even if it means spending more than you intended. Even if it means changing your mind or tweaking your long-term vision to accommodate for new and different information.
This is likely getting made into a bigger deal than it needs to be. The Packers, Steelers, amongst others don't guarantee money at signing past year 1 either. The Vikings historically have offered signing bonuses and vesting guarantees in years 2 and 3. The dead money would be so large in years 2/3 its basically impossible to get out of the deal so its an effective guarantee vs. one in writing. Each side will posture but I fully believe they won't mess around with JJ too much.
@"Geoff Nichols" said:@"MaroonBells" said:Each side will posture but I fully believe they won't mess around with JJ too much.@"StickyBun" said: https://twitter.com/vikingzfanpage/status/1759045463624319429?s=19 I'm a little worried that Kwesi might be a little too myopic in his approach to football finances. If you wanna win the game, you have to PLAY the game, even if it means spending more than you intended. Even if it means changing your mind or tweaking your long-term vision to accommodate for new and different information.
That's all this is. This deal will get done.
@"StickyBun" said:@"Geoff Nichols" said:@"MaroonBells" said:Each side will posture but I fully believe they won't mess around with JJ too much.@"StickyBun" said: https://twitter.com/vikingzfanpage/status/1759045463624319429?s=19 I'm a little worried that Kwesi might be a little too myopic in his approach to football finances. If you wanna win the game, you have to PLAY the game, even if it means spending more than you intended. Even if it means changing your mind or tweaking your long-term vision to accommodate for new and different information.
That's all this is. This deal will get done.
Exactly how I feel.
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