Nix only left if we don’t trade into top 5

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"minny65" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"kmillard" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: I think you're seeing this through a purple lens. No doubt, three of those QBs could go early, but there are a few pretty good players in this draft who don't play QB. For example, most big boards have WR Marvin Harrison Jr. as the top prospect in this class. There are a couple other WRs and a couple tackles who will figure in as well. 

watch Washintons Rome Adunze tonight,  if he goes off like he can, he could certainly push his name into that conversation,  kid is fearless and tough as hell.

Odunze has been consensus for a top pick pretty much all year.

I havent seen him in the top 10 though.  A big game tonight and he may be moving on up.  Ive seen some that dont have him even as the 2nd receiver off the board.  I havent watched a lot of MHj,  but I wouldnt be scared at taking Adunze at any position,  I think his game is as good as any ones.  the kid just plain has the looks of a guy with a long NFL career IMO.... but what do I know,  I didnt think Addison was going to be worth a shit as a blocker,  but I watched him specifically on a couple plays yesterday and he stone walled a guy on one play,  got his shit handed to him on the next one,  but that was against a guy about 90#s heavier and he already had a bit of head start.

latest pff mock has onduze going 9 to bears.  

i counted 4 washington players going in the first round with penic at 8.  then onduze, ol and de.   

no michigan players in first rounf fwiw 

again pff

mostly I have seen him around pick 15.

EAGAN, Minn. — The Vikings on Monday announced the signing of the following 10 players to futures contracts:
Receiver Trishton Jackson
Receiver N'Keal Harry
Running back DeWayne McBride
Cornerback Joejuan Williams
Cornerback Jaylin Williams
Linebacker Abraham Beauplan
Tackle Coy Cronk
Guard Henry Byrd
Guard Tyrese Robinson
Receiver Thayer Thomas
All 10 players were on Minnesota's practice squad.

@"Mattyman" said:

Nix	Oregon Ducks
6'2	2022	13	13	10–3	294	409	71.9	3,593	8.8	29	7	165.7	89	510	5.7	14
217	2023	14	14	12–2	364	470	77.5*	4,508	9.5	45	3	186.2	53	228	4.3	6
age 23	Career	61*	61*	43–18	1,286	1,936	66.5	15,352	7.9	108	26	148.4	404	1,607	4	38

That's really hard to do.

The closer anyone scrutinize his resume the more it will be understood he has everything going for him.

He's the guy I want the Vikings to draft. 100%  

IMO Nix' game is comparable to Drew Brees, doggedly fundamental in mechanics .

 He frustrates and beats defenders because he gives no tells since his mechanics are so tight and consistent. 

He'll take his lumps as a rookie, but he'll start next year and win games.

I am all in on Nix.  He's grown each year...he was pretty "just okay" at Auburn.

His completion percentage grew each year.  From 57.6% at Auburn his first year, to 71.9% his first year in Oregon last year, and 77.4% this year.  This shows me that he is able to grow and improve. Beyond his stats, I like his attitude.  Caleb Williams proved to be a crybaby and sat out his bowl game (like many others).  Bo Nix played and expressed gratitude for the opportunity.  Good for him.  I don't want to compare him with Kirk Cousins, (although some scouts have, translating to a limited ceiling...but Cousins best year statistically was his Junior year at 66.9%, regressing to a 63.7% completion percentage his final year at Michigan State. Knowing what we now know about Kirko Chainz, I think that is a package that I would feel comfortable building around.

Watching Penix last night, how many times did you notice him doing things   work on Sundays?

 Huskies Oline is above average and has enabled him to get away with it.

 

@"Montana Tom" said:

Caleb Williams proved to be a crybaby and sat out his bowl game (like many others).  Bo Nix played and expressed gratitude for the opportunity.  Good for him. 

Don't draft Bo Nix because he's a good dude and grateful, draft him because you think he'll be an excellent QB. Which that's a huge question if he is. I don't understand the fan's feels when it comes to these kids, like getting pissed because Caleb Williams skipped his Bowl game. Who cares? He's the best prospect in this Draft easily. I don't get how skipping his Bowl game makes him less of a 'good person'?

I like good people as much as the next person, but I want the Vikings to draft a great QB first and foremost. I couldn't give two shits that Bo Nix spent last Saturday outside a grocery store helping sell Girl Scout cookies, there's a reason he's seen as 'lesser than' then probably the top 5 guys. I'm not saying don't draft Nix, what I'm saying is stay away from the feels. We don't know any of these kids. For all we know, Bo Nix might be the kind of dude that likes cottage cheese.

This had been discussed already, but the top 3 teams in the draft are QB needy and are all pretty much locks to take quarterbacks in some order. Even if the Bears stick with Fields and trade out, the chances of them trading that pick to Minnesota is pretty much zero. So figure Williams, Maye and Daniels are all gone, which leaves the Vikings to decide if either McCarthy or Penix are worth the pick (if McCarthy declares). Just my opinion, but it looks like we will be holding an empty bag at the end of the day and likely be looking at guys like Nix and Cam Ward in the second round 

@"supafreak84" said: This had been discussed already, but the top 3 teams in the draft are QB needy and are all pretty much locks to take quarterbacks in some order. Even if the Bears stick with Fields and trade out, the chances of them trading that pick to Minnesota is pretty much zero. So figure Williams, Maye and Daniels are all gone, which leaves the Vikings to decide if either McCarthy or Penix are worth the pick (if McCarthy declares). Just my opinion, but it looks like we will be holding an empty bag at the end of the day and likely be looking at guys like Nix and Cam Ward in the second round 

The teams at the top of the draft S U C K sucked. Even if we’d moved on from Kirk and rolled with Mullens at QB all year long, it’s hard to picture this team only winning 4 or fewer games. I guess we coupd’ve brought Donatell back lol, but short of that I don’t think a top 3 pick was going to happen for us. 

The Panthers won 2 games and the Pats were so bad they might fire Bill Belichek. We certainly could have gotten much closer to #1 but if we’re saying the QBs we really want will be gone by pick 4, we were pretty much destined not to get one considering where our franchise and roster is at. 

@"supafreak84" said: This had been discussed already, but the top 3 teams in the draft are QB needy and are all pretty much locks to take quarterbacks in some order. Even if the Bears stick with Fields and trade out, the chances of them trading that pick to Minnesota is pretty much zero. So figure Williams, Maye and Daniels are all gone, which leaves the Vikings to decide if either McCarthy or Penix are worth the pick (if McCarthy declares). Just my opinion, but it looks like we will be holding an empty bag at the end of the day and likely be looking at guys like Nix and Cam Ward in the second round 

Agreed...I have already told myself they are not going to get a ranked top 3 qb in this draft. Maybe they'll get a gem later, but nobody can crystal ball who that might be. 

 I do like the scenario of taking one of the top D players @ 11 and trying to trade back into the late 20's to grab a Penix or JJM if he declares. 

@"supafreak84" said: This had been discussed already, but the top 3 teams in the draft are QB needy and are all pretty much locks to take quarterbacks in some order. Even if the Bears stick with Fields and trade out, the chances of them trading that pick to Minnesota is pretty much zero. So figure Williams, Maye and Daniels are all gone, which leaves the Vikings to decide if either McCarthy or Penix are worth the pick (if McCarthy declares). Just my opinion, but it looks like we will be holding an empty bag at the end of the day and likely be looking at guys like Nix and Cam Ward in the second round 

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"supafreak84" said: This had been discussed already, but the top 3 teams in the draft are QB needy and are all pretty much locks to take quarterbacks in some order. Even if the Bears stick with Fields and trade out, the chances of them trading that pick to Minnesota is pretty much zero. So figure Williams, Maye and Daniels are all gone, which leaves the Vikings to decide if either McCarthy or Penix are worth the pick (if McCarthy declares). Just my opinion, but it looks like we will be holding an empty bag at the end of the day and likely be looking at guys like Nix and Cam Ward in the second round 

Agreed...I have already told myself they are not going to get a ranked top 3 qb in this draft. Maybe they'll get a gem later, but nobody can crystal ball who that might be. 

 I do like the scenario of taking one of the top D players @ 11 and trying to trade back into the late 20's to grab a Penix or JJM if he declares. 

@"pattersaur" said:

@"supafreak84" said: This had been discussed already, but the top 3 teams in the draft are QB needy and are all pretty much locks to take quarterbacks in some order. Even if the Bears stick with Fields and trade out, the chances of them trading that pick to Minnesota is pretty much zero. So figure Williams, Maye and Daniels are all gone, which leaves the Vikings to decide if either McCarthy or Penix are worth the pick (if McCarthy declares). Just my opinion, but it looks like we will be holding an empty bag at the end of the day and likely be looking at guys like Nix and Cam Ward in the second round 

As of today it does feel like this. But the thing is— whether people like the “competitive” rebuild strategy or not, this year there isn’t a ton we could have done either way. 

The teams at the top of the draft S U C K sucked. Even if we’d moved on from Kirk and rolled with Mullens at QB all year long, it’s hard to picture this team only winning 4 or fewer games. I guess we coupd’ve brought Donatell back lol, but short of that I don’t think a top 3 pick was going to happen for us. 

The Panthers won 2 games and the Pats were so bad they might fire Bill Belichek. We certainly could have gotten much closer to #1 but if we’re saying the QBs we really want will be gone by pick 4, we were pretty much destined not to get one considering where our franchise and roster is at. 

@"supafreak84" said:

@"pattersaur" said:

@"supafreak84" said: This had been discussed already, but the top 3 teams in the draft are QB needy and are all pretty much locks to take quarterbacks in some order. Even if the Bears stick with Fields and trade out, the chances of them trading that pick to Minnesota is pretty much zero. So figure Williams, Maye and Daniels are all gone, which leaves the Vikings to decide if either McCarthy or Penix are worth the pick (if McCarthy declares). Just my opinion, but it looks like we will be holding an empty bag at the end of the day and likely be looking at guys like Nix and Cam Ward in the second round 

As of today it does feel like this. But the thing is— whether people like the “competitive” rebuild strategy or not, this year there isn’t a ton we could have done either way. 

The teams at the top of the draft S U C K sucked. Even if we’d moved on from Kirk and rolled with Mullens at QB all year long, it’s hard to picture this team only winning 4 or fewer games. I guess we coupd’ve brought Donatell back lol, but short of that I don’t think a top 3 pick was going to happen for us. 

The Panthers won 2 games and the Pats were so bad they might fire Bill Belichek. We certainly could have gotten much closer to #1 but if we’re saying the QBs we really want will be gone by pick 4, we were pretty much destined not to get one considering where our franchise and roster is at. 

The Cousins injury certainly clouded things for this season, but I still believe the "competitive rebuild" strategy to be a farce. We have some talent, but we weren't good enough even with a healthy Cousins to be a top 3 or 4 team in the conference. So once again we are just good enough to be out of range to draft one of the elite quarterback prospects this franchise has sorely needed. Sure, it's all luck and you can find players, quarterbacks anywhere in the draft, but ideally you want as many options and players to choose from as possible, especially when it comes to the more talented guys. The competitive rebuild puts us in this position and will continue to put us in this position where we want to move off Cousins and his contract, but have no other real options but to pay the man and hope father time and more injuries don't rear their ugly heads. 

If I was a betting man, I'd say we draft a positional guy at #11 and take a swing at quarterback in the second round. That leaves us choosing between realistic options like Cousins and Russell Wilson to once again be our starter. 

Here's a real debate...would we be better off bringing Cousins back as a 36 year QB coming off an achillies injury and on a hefty extension, or would you take the healthier Russell Wilson who you could probably sign at a fraction of the cost? Im not so sure Wilson wouldn't be the better option..