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If you had to eliminate 1 of the 4 which one would you move on from

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Cousins 
Darrisaw 
Hunter 
Jefferson 

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#1 · Dec 2, 12:08 PM
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cousins

#2 · Dec 2, 12:21 PM
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I cant kick one to the curb, they are all important as the world sits today.

By May, everything could be flipped. 

But my order of importance would be:
JJ
Cousins (healthy, 2 year deal)
Hunter 
Darrisaw

Only reason I have Darrisaw last is (I believe) we have more time to try and lock him up longer term. 

#3 · Dec 2, 1:00 PM
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Cousins I suppose.

Hunter has just been so good this year. The other 2 I consider borderline untouchable unless someone gave us a Tunsil haul for Darrisaw. And even then idk.

Also pre-emptive shoutout to the folks about to jump in here saying we can keep them all and not answering OP’s question  :)

#4 · Dec 2, 1:13 PM
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Wilf  :p

#5 · Dec 2, 2:16 PM
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Cousins

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I think we would have won the division if we didn't lose Cousins and still no JJ, with JJ and no Cousins, we are still a wildcard card team at best.  I would seriously see if I could use JJ to move up to get one of the top QBs.  Not thrilled with his effort to get back on the field.

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@"JR44" said: I think we would have won the division if we didn't lose Cousins and still no JJ, with JJ and no Cousins, we are still a wildcard card team at best.  I would seriously see if I could use JJ to move up to get one of the top QBs.  Not thrilled with his effort to get back on the field.

What? That's just crazy trading your best player in 10 years. We can get one of the 4 or 5 best QB's coming out without even giving up an additional first round pick.

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I can't answer  yet, I wanna see what happens when JJ returns.

Everyone saw what this team looked like without him for the last 6 games,

 so what do they look like over the final 5 games with him?

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Cousins because he’s the oldest. But he’s also the most important position of the team. So ya best have an idea as to what the plan is. 

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@"Mattyman" said: I can't answer  yet, I wanna see what happens when JJ returns.

Everyone saw what this team looked like without him for the last 6 games,

 so what do they look like over the final 5 games with him?


To me, this answers whether he deserves the brinks truck or if we should get a kings ransom out of him and use the proceeds to build the future. 

Either way, Jefferson is the future. He’s either the unmistakable face of the franchise or the reason we were able to build a great team. 

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Good question and it's a tough decision. I’d rather keep all four, which shouldn’t be hard to do.

Technically Darrisaw isn’t a free agent until 2026, so he shouldn’t be part of this. But gun to my head, I go with Hunter because the money he's going to make is going to be the hardest for him to actually EARN over the life of the contract. 

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@"Mattyman" said: I can't answer  yet, I wanna see what happens when JJ returns.

Everyone saw what this team looked like without him for the last 6 games,

 so what do they look like over the final 5 games with him?


Well to be fair, that's up to the QB. We already know what we have in JJ. We don't need these final 5 games to tell us. 

#13 · Dec 3, 6:47 AM
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I say cut all four. Why pay these big salaries that will kill the cap?? Maybe we can get some excellent draft picks, we need to think about the future. 

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@"FLVike" said:
@"JR44" said: I think we would have won the division if we didn't lose Cousins and still no JJ, with JJ and no Cousins, we are still a wildcard card team at best.  I would seriously see if I could use JJ to move up to get one of the top QBs.  Not thrilled with his effort to get back on the field.

What? That's just crazy trading your best player in 10 years. We can get one of the 4 or 5 best QB's coming out without even giving up an additional first round pick.



And what if that QB ends up being Trey Lance...or Zach Wilson...or Mac Jones? Then all the money we just gave JJ and Hunter and Darrisaw is wasted. You can't say it enough: it's ALL about the QB. 

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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"FLVike" said:
@"JR44" said: I think we would have won the division if we didn't lose Cousins and still no JJ, with JJ and no Cousins, we are still a wildcard card team at best.  I would seriously see if I could use JJ to move up to get one of the top QBs.  Not thrilled with his effort to get back on the field.

What? That's just crazy trading your best player in 10 years. We can get one of the 4 or 5 best QB's coming out without even giving up an additional first round pick.



And what if that QB ends up being Trey Lance...or Zach Wilson...or Mac Jones? Then all the money we just gave JJ and Hunter and Darrisaw is wasted. You can't say it enough: it's ALL about the QB. 


Any successful, long term HC in the NFL has had a great QB...or more than one great QB. Its the one constant. The NFL is all about the QB, 100%. And when you swing and miss, its damaging to a franchise. And there's no guarantee that even if Minnesota drafts a QB high, he'll pan out. Most don't. 

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@"StickyBun" said: I say cut all four. Why pay these big salaries that will kill the cap?? Maybe we can get some excellent draft picks, we need to think about the future. 


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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"FLVike" said:
@"JR44" said: I think we would have won the division if we didn't lose Cousins and still no JJ, with JJ and no Cousins, we are still a wildcard card team at best.  I would seriously see if I could use JJ to move up to get one of the top QBs.  Not thrilled with his effort to get back on the field.

What? That's just crazy trading your best player in 10 years. We can get one of the 4 or 5 best QB's coming out without even giving up an additional first round pick.



And what if that QB ends up being Trey Lance...or Zach Wilson...or Mac Jones? Then all the money we just gave JJ and Hunter and Darrisaw is wasted. You can't say it enough: it's ALL about the QB. 

From what I see, Penix and McCarthy will do well and, if we lose 4 out of our last 5, which is possible, we may not have to trade up. But let's just say we go 9-8  and our pick is 15-18, then we are only trading up a few spots.

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@"StickyBun" said: I say cut all four. Why pay these big salaries that will kill the cap?? Maybe we can get some excellent draft picks, we need to think about the future. 


You'd be surprised how many actually believe this. Or maybe you wouldn't. 

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@"FLVike" said:
@"MaroonBells" said:
@"FLVike" said:
@"JR44" said: I think we would have won the division if we didn't lose Cousins and still no JJ, with JJ and no Cousins, we are still a wildcard card team at best.  I would seriously see if I could use JJ to move up to get one of the top QBs.  Not thrilled with his effort to get back on the field.

What? That's just crazy trading your best player in 10 years. We can get one of the 4 or 5 best QB's coming out without even giving up an additional first round pick.



And what if that QB ends up being Trey Lance...or Zach Wilson...or Mac Jones? Then all the money we just gave JJ and Hunter and Darrisaw is wasted. You can't say it enough: it's ALL about the QB. 

From what I see, Penix and McCarthy will do well and, if we lose 4 out of our last 5, which is possible, we may not have to trade up. But let's just say we go 9-8  and our pick is 15-18, then we are only trading up a few spots.



Agree. Go get the QBOTF. All for it. And I agree that we can probably get Penix or McCarthy without selling the farm. But keep Cousins and go win a Super Bowl next year. 

Think about it. If the Vikings extend Cousins, draft a QB in round one, and that QB hits, what've ya got? A ridiculous amount of trade capital.  

#20 · Dec 3, 9:02 AM
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...I really hate this question...

...but, I'd trade JJ, given that choice.

He's about to cost starting QB money, which is a market I don't like for WRs. Guys who get pummeled during midair catches are basically magnets for injuries and lost time...just ask JJ's mentor, OBJ.

Hunter is our best DL. Darrisaw is excellent and growing. Cousins has been our best performing QB in a long time, even if the team wasn't always good enough to get anywhere.

JJ, excellent as he is, looks like a very expensive series of injuries waiting to happen (at times).

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