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How boneheaded are the Jets for not trading for Dobbs? Or for basically anyone competent? Their defense is awesome and they are floundering because Zach Wilson is horrendous.

I know many were fine with “riding with Hall” and standing pat after Kirk got hurt, and I get that. But injuries happen and how smart does KAM look this morning? With Mannion at QB the past 1.75 games, they are both losses, I’m 99.99% certain. Within the prism of trying to win football games (and not tanking), trading nothing and getting Dobbs has been a home run for us.

Wild how two different franchises can handle similar situation completely differently. Good job, Vikings. To the Jets and their fans— ouch. 

#1 · Nov 13, 8:40 AM
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I thought Zach Wilson would be an average to good QB. He has an arm but not accuracy and intangibles. At least he got the ball in the air and to the endzone on the final play.

#2 · Nov 13, 9:06 AM
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In Wilson's defense that Jets o-line is a mash unit and I think I heard were on their 5th new starting lineups for the season. I also think Hackett is, well...a hack. 

But I'm not sure if the Vikings were smart or just lucky trading for Dobbs. If Mullens didn't have the back injury we probably don't make that move. Good pick up though going with a super smart guy who can pick up the playbook and has some physical tools to work with 

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@"supafreak84" said: In Wilson's defense that Jets o-line is a mash unit and I think I heard were on their 5th new starting lineups for the season. I also think Hackett is, well...a hack. 

But I'm not sure if the Vikings were smart or just lucky trading for Dobbs. If Mullens didn't have the back injury we probably don't make that move. Good pick up though going with a super smart guy who can pick up the playbook and has some physical tools to work with 


Agree if Mullens was healthy they never would have traded for a quarterback.  I read somewhere, don't recall where, that either KOC or Kwesi had interest or had scouted Dobbs before he entered the draft so they may have had some insight to the man and player before the trade.

#4 · Nov 13, 10:13 AM
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The Jets are a hot mess. Regardless of the injury and whether or not they would have made the trade, the Vikings made the trade and they picked Dobbs. Give some credit where credit is due and enjoy the ride 

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@"Greylock" said:
@"supafreak84" said: In Wilson's defense that Jets o-line is a mash unit and I think I heard were on their 5th new starting lineups for the season. I also think Hackett is, well...a hack. 

But I'm not sure if the Vikings were smart or just lucky trading for Dobbs. If Mullens didn't have the back injury we probably don't make that move. Good pick up though going with a super smart guy who can pick up the playbook and has some physical tools to work with 


Agree if Mullens was healthy they never would have traded for a quarterback.  I read somewhere, don't recall where, that either KOC or Kwesi had interest or had scouted Dobbs before he entered the draft so they may have had some insight to the man and player before the trade.


But remember, he wasn't their first choice. Sounds like they wanted John Wolford in Tampa, who the Bucs added to their active roster to prevent the move. 

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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"Greylock" said:
@"supafreak84" said: In Wilson's defense that Jets o-line is a mash unit and I think I heard were on their 5th new starting lineups for the season. I also think Hackett is, well...a hack. 

But I'm not sure if the Vikings were smart or just lucky trading for Dobbs. If Mullens didn't have the back injury we probably don't make that move. Good pick up though going with a super smart guy who can pick up the playbook and has some physical tools to work with 


Agree if Mullens was healthy they never would have traded for a quarterback.  I read somewhere, don't recall where, that either KOC or Kwesi had interest or had scouted Dobbs before he entered the draft so they may have had some insight to the man and player before the trade.


But remember, he wasn't their first choice. Sounds like they wanted John Wolford in Tampa, who the Bucs added to their active roster to prevent the move. 

The Rams were after Wolford as well, before the Vikings! They ended up w/ Wentz, yuck…! 

#7 · Nov 13, 12:58 PM
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What's sad for the Jets is their D is so good it's fun to watch.  But Zach Wilson is hot shit on dirt.  It's painful to watch.

#8 · Nov 14, 7:50 AM
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@"FLVike" said:
I thought Zach Wilson would be an average to good QB. He has an arm but not accuracy and intangibles. At least he got the ball in the air and to the endzone on the final play.
Same, I was all over Zach Wilson and had him as the second QB easy after Lawrence.  On the plus side, for me, I thought Lance would be a bust :)
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Another lesson in don't bet on a young QB with a D guru head coach. (although the early returns in Houston look good)

#10 · Nov 14, 8:58 AM
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I'm not sure we win these last two games with Dobbs, but without KOC.

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#12 · Nov 15, 5:09 AM
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@"medaille" said: I'm not sure we win these last two games with Dobbs, but without KOC.
To your point:

Key to second half: Stay flexible. The Vikings have started three different quarterbacks this season and had a total of six on their roster or practice squad. At the midpoint of their season, three of them remained injured. Their top two running backs were injured as well. O'Connell might need to continue adjusting his scheme and playcalls to accommodate the disparate skills of the players on the field at any moment. -- Kevin Seifert

#13 · Nov 15, 7:40 AM
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Say what you will about Wilson and that Jets offense, but damn...

Their D is just magnificent. I would love their DL and some Sauce too. 

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