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Not optimal, but what choice is there?

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Best of luck, Josh.

#1 · Nov 12, 7:09 AM
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That is rough...

...but, also, for all those guys buried on the depth chart, just pining for their shot: good morning...!

#2 · Nov 12, 8:29 AM
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@"Zanary" said: That is rough...

...but, also, for all those guys buried on the depth chart, just pining for their shot: good morning...!


lol, that's the spirit. 

#3 · Nov 12, 8:34 AM
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Razor thin - cant afford to grow the MASH unit. 

#4 · Nov 12, 8:42 AM
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This is an awesome story on Dobbs. This is his moment. Rise or fall, this is the moment. No excuses.

https://www.startribune.com/vikings-quarterback-joshua-dobbs-nfl-journey-family/600319011/

#5 · Nov 12, 8:43 AM
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@"StickyBun" said:
@"Zanary" said: That is rough...

...but, also, for all those guys buried on the depth chart, just pining for their shot: good morning...!


lol, that's the spirit. 


It's the reality.  RGIII was misused by Washington, creating Cousins' career. KJ got his (admittedly tenuous) position by stepping up when JJ or AT missed time.  An injured Drew Bledsoe put Tom Brady under center.

Step up, or step off.  Dobbs had a brutal start before the heroics last week, hopefully that'll be a lesson to the kids stepping into bigger roles, today.

#6 · Nov 12, 8:54 AM
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Addison and Powell have been a solid duo, if Nailor is fully healthy I think he will flash and Jackson has shown to be a legit WR, so think this unit may surprise.  Not having a healthy TJ really hurts, but may be time for the money we have invested in Oliver to pay off.  Have not heard anything about Kene, but if he is healthy, I would hope KOC would find some creative ways to get him involved and use his speed. 

#7 · Nov 12, 9:02 AM
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Rooting for success, but I'm a disbeliever till proven otherwise. 

So says the 60+ year old, jaded fan. 

#8 · Nov 12, 9:02 AM
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@"JR44" said: Addison and Powell have been a solid duo, if Nailor is fully healthy I think he will flash and Jackson has shown to be a legit WR, so think this unit may surprise.  Not having a healthy TJ really hurts, but may be time for the money we have invested in Oliver to pay off.  Have not heard anything about Kene, but if he is healthy, I would hope KOC would find some creative ways to get him involved and use his speed. 
Yes, it's time for Nailor to live up to the hype. He really should be a better option than either Powell or Jackson. I hope we see that today. Same with Kene. This is KOC's chance to dust off some of the those backyard plays.
#9 · Nov 12, 9:09 AM
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I really like Dobbs, he’s a great athlete and off the charts intelligent… seems like a great team guy, very good personality, really someone to cheer for.

All that said, I still want us to draft a QB next spring, and I would like to see Hall get an opportunity too because he’s a guy to cheer for too, very good demeanor and mobile, has good accuracy.

I really can’t gauge where the team will end up at the end of the season but I certainly have more optism than I at the start of the season and 2 minutes after Kirk’s achilles.

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On the plus side. CD is back in the lineup and it's not a year where we had an early bye week. 

#11 · Nov 12, 9:29 AM
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Could be a day we see more of Ham used as a receiver out of the backfield just as a different guy the defense needs to be aware of.

#12 · Nov 12, 10:00 AM
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@"prairieghost" said: I really can’t gauge where the team will end up at the end of the season but I certainly have more optism than I at the start of the season and 2 minutes after Kirk’s achilles.
I'm not more optimistic now than I was at the start of the season. I think only now are some of the doubters coming to an appreciation of just how good that team could've been. 

But I am more optimistic than I was after Kirk went down. Thought the season was over. And it probably still is, but there's at least a glimmer of hope. 

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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"prairieghost" said: I really can’t gauge where the team will end up at the end of the season but I certainly have more optism than I at the start of the season and 2 minutes after Kirk’s achilles.
I'm not more optimistic now than I was at the start of the season. I think only now are some of the doubters coming to an appreciation of just how good that team could've been. 

 



Well, that's not a given. I hear what you are saying and I'm more with you than against with your takes, but how 'good they could have been' is very subjective. Their margin for error is very slim and would be with a healthy roster. Now could they beat anyone with Flores upping the D? I think so. I think they would have had more real heft this year than last. But still no juggernaut. And still losing to Philly. Or even Dallas. 

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@"StickyBun" said:
@"MaroonBells" said:
@"prairieghost" said: I really can’t gauge where the team will end up at the end of the season but I certainly have more optism than I at the start of the season and 2 minutes after Kirk’s achilles.
I'm not more optimistic now than I was at the start of the season. I think only now are some of the doubters coming to an appreciation of just how good that team could've been. 

 



Well, that's not a given. I hear what you are saying and I'm more with you than against with your takes, but how 'good they could have been' is very subjective. Their margin for error is very slim and would be with a healthy roster. Now could they beat anyone with Flores upping the D? I think so. I think they would have had more real heft this year than last. But still no juggernaut. And still losing to Philly. Or even Dallas. 


I personally think it's unobjective to think that a Cousins-led offense with Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison and TJH, with an improved OL and an improving defense would NOT have been a contender down the stretch. 

#15 · Nov 12, 10:41 AM
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Dobbs isnt Cousins, but he might make us forget him after that first half. 

Defense keeps playing like this and we’ll be resting TJH. 

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