So it seems the board is bittersweet about this win?

The win was great and a fun game to watch. Dobbs, KOC and young receivers like Powell deserve all the kudos they're getting. Vikings now control their playoff destiny. 

But for me, I'd be a helluva lot happier if I thought it were sustainable. If Kirk were still playing, we'd know that JJ is soon due to join Addison for a ridiculously dangerous WR duo. Davenport should soon join an improving defense. I'd love to take THAT team to the playoffs. That team could make some noise. 

If Hall were playing, we'd at least be excited about watching what is essentially an audition for QBOTF. 

But it's Dobbs. A guy on his 9th gig in 7 years. There's a reason for that. Look, I'm relentlessly optimistic, but it's pretty hard to believe he can be consistent enough to keep winning. 

There are just some fans that are waiting for the other shoe to drop, that's conditioning. And there are some that only post when they are losing or want to gloat about it. It was an ugly, intense game that was wild and fun at the same time. I enjoyed it and watched it again last night 

Josh Dobbs is a Tik Tok STAR:pic.twitter.com/si0D6dRzSB

— Ross Tucker (@RossTuckerNFL) November 7, 2023

@"StickyBun" said: https://twitter.com/RossTuckerNFL/status/1721889011218940293

I'm happy about it, there's just a very...week to week, kind of "temporary" quality that's returned after feeling like we were getting rolling.  I know that's anti-logical, because we have just gotten 4 straight wins, but having Kirk as the central figure in the offense while the team was gelling led to a certain comfort (aside from his hate club, of course).

As the team looked more consistent, he was right atop the QB rankings, wins started coming, and even survived JJ's exit because the blocking and the defense were stepping up, Addison was emerging, etc.

Then, Kirk got hurt. OK, umm...next man up...Hall has been with us all year, Kirk's got his back, KOC has been raising him, all good, we can ride with...

...DAMMIT!

Hey, Dobbs did a heroic job and stands to look better with actual practices and familiarization...but this season has been emotionall jarring, even for the Purple People that are used to a certain amount of drama/abuse...!

I thought it was a sweet game and I’m excited to see where the season goes! I think anyone expecting some big leap from Game 1 to 2 from Dobbs is being unrealistic. It’s very likely that what we saw on Sunday is about how he’ll play the rest of the season. And I think that might be good enough to rip some more wins.

Sure, it’d be more excited if Hall was in there doing this since his perceived ceiling is higher, but I think we can learn a lot from Dobbs’ starts too.

He’s never gonna be Kirk but if Dobbs and Hall can be league average I think it makes the looming decision on Kirk a lot simpler. It’s very hard to justify a huge contract for top ~7 QB play when you are getting serviceable QB play for what amounts to about free.

So to me while Dobbs probably isn’t THE guy long term, his play will impact the QB decision regardless, even if he’s only a Viking for half a season. JMO

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"StickyBun" said: https://twitter.com/RossTuckerNFL/status/1721889011218940293

I'm sure Josh is just happy that he no longer has to pay for his meals at the team facility. 

It was fun to watch. It showed that coaching is improving. The defense has become an asset. Was nice to win a game where historically we have been on the other end of it. But, it was backyard football. Well, backyard QB play. That is no knock on Dobbs. Just the opposite. He willed the team to a win without knowing the offense, the players, the plays. I feel that Hall has more upside. At least, I hope that he does. What would suck is to lose Cousins for the season and NOT find out if Hall has what it takes to be a starter, or at least a high quality backup.
I hope that Hall gets another chance to play. If he were to show enough that next year we don't have to invest in a first round QB, that would take some of the sting off of Kirks injury. There is no need to rush Hall back. Let him heal up, but then put him out there. If he doesn't show anything. Then we lock Dobbs up as a backup and move forward.

@"StickyBun" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"StickyBun" said: https://twitter.com/RossTuckerNFL/status/1721889011218940293

I'm sure Josh is just happy that he no longer has to pay for his meals at the team facility. 

He's also just 28 years old. I'm sure he'd love to have a chance to be the guy somewhere. Odds are long that will be the case, he's obviously bounced around. I'm just taking it week to week. It'll be interesting to see where KOC goes with this: will he give Dobbs time only until Hall heals from his concussion or will he extend Dobb's time if he plays decently?

Bittersweet is probably a pretty
accurate term.  The game was a shit show
that we came out on top of.  Tons of
injuries to key players.  Backup QBs for both
teams.  Sloppy offensive plays.  Basically, we won because they didn’t contain
Dobbs from scrambling.  It was a fun game
to watch, and glad we got the win, but a miracle win against a backup QB on a
mediocre team doesn’t move the meter that much. 
I love our coaching staff, but we’re still going to play every game with
a backup caliber QB and/or a rookie 5th round QB, and while we
should get better as time goes on, we’re going to need to be better than that, and also defenses are going to adjust and get tougher.

How Dobbs got it done @ QB was a hoot to watch...This might be a top 10 win for the franchise across all 60 years of its existence.

But every fiber in me believes that's just not sustainable. Not sure he's got what it takes to win in the NFL week to week, to execute a game plan etc. 

 I'm rooting for him and have ZERO expectations of getting to the post-season once KC went down. 

 So hell, I'll just enjoy the ride. 

@"MaroonBells" said: The win was great and a fun game to watch. Dobbs, KOC and young receivers like Powell deserve all the kudos they're getting. Vikings now control their playoff destiny. 

But for me, I'd be a helluva lot happier if I thought it were sustainable. If Kirk were still playing, we'd know that JJ is soon due to join Addison for a ridiculously dangerous WR duo. Davenport should soon join an improving defense. I'd love to take THAT team to the playoffs. That team could make some noise. 

If Hall were playing, we'd at least be excited about watching what is essentially an audition for QBOTF. 

But it's Dobbs. A guy on his 9th gig in 7 years. There's a reason for that. Look, I'm relentlessly optimistic, but it's pretty hard to believe he can be consistent enough to keep winning. 

We saw what I believe was the quintessential backup QB performance. Career backups are not on rosters to lose games when called upon. They are also not called upon to be season long leaders.

Some get caught up in the fools gold of success because the few in the history of the league that have broken that pretty set in stone rule. We saw Dobbs' shortcomings which can't be hidden or apparently fixed to be the long term solution, but he sure will put it all out on the line, and can catch lightning in the bottle from time to time. 

@"MaroonBells" said: The win was great and a fun game to watch. Dobbs, KOC and young receivers like Powell deserve all the kudos they're getting. Vikings now control their playoff destiny. 

But for me, I'd be a helluva lot happier if I thought it were sustainable. If Kirk were still playing, we'd know that JJ is soon due to join Addison for a ridiculously dangerous WR duo. Davenport should soon join an improving defense. I'd love to take THAT team to the playoffs. That team could make some noise. 

If Hall were playing, we'd at least be excited about watching what is essentially an audition for QBOTF. 

But it's Dobbs. A guy on his 9th gig in 7 years. There's a reason for that. Look, I'm relentlessly optimistic, but it's pretty hard to believe he can be consistent enough to keep winning. 

And yeah, Hall would represent potential, future.  Dobbs was a throwaway from a team in serious need of a good backup QB.  

In a way, I'm just trying to take this whole season as a blessing.  A few weeks ago I would have thought we were going to tank and have nothing to look forward to.  Now, we have a chance to see this team without Kirk.  I think a lot of people forget just how bad our QB situation was before him.  That being said, I don't really know if he will every be enough to take the team to the promise land.  We don't know enough about Dobbs or Hall yet, but man how cool would it be knowing we might have something in one of the 2 of them?  If we can not have a monster QB contract on the books with this team, that is an exciting thought.  
 

@"medaille" said: Bittersweet is probably a pretty accurate term.  The game was a shit show that we came out on top of.  Tons of injuries to key players.  Backup QBs for both teams.  Sloppy offensive plays.  Basically, we won because they didn’t contain Dobbs from scrambling.  It was a fun game to watch, and glad we got the win, but a miracle win against a backup QB on a mediocre team doesn’t move the meter that much.  I love our coaching staff, but we’re still going to play every game with a backup caliber QB and/or a rookie 5th round QB, and while we should get better as time goes on, we’re going to need to be better than that, and also defenses are going to adjust and get tougher.

In addition, I really wanted to see more of Hall.  Hopefully, when Hall gets through the protocol we swing right back to him even if Dobbs wins next week.  

@"minny65" said:

@"medaille" said: Bittersweet is probably a pretty accurate term.  The game was a shit show that we came out on top of.  Tons of injuries to key players.  Backup QBs for both teams.  Sloppy offensive plays.  Basically, we won because they didn’t contain Dobbs from scrambling.  It was a fun game to watch, and glad we got the win, but a miracle win against a backup QB on a mediocre team doesn’t move the meter that much.  I love our coaching staff, but we’re still going to play every game with a backup caliber QB and/or a rookie 5th round QB, and while we should get better as time goes on, we’re going to need to be better than that, and also defenses are going to adjust and get tougher.

Agree

In addition, I really wanted to see more of Hall.  Hopefully, when Hall gets through the protocol we swing right back to him even if Dobbs wins next week.  

@"pattersaur" said:

@"minny65" said:

@"medaille" said: Bittersweet is probably a pretty accurate term.  The game was a shit show that we came out on top of.  Tons of injuries to key players.  Backup QBs for both teams.  Sloppy offensive plays.  Basically, we won because they didn’t contain Dobbs from scrambling.  It was a fun game to watch, and glad we got the win, but a miracle win against a backup QB on a mediocre team doesn’t move the meter that much.  I love our coaching staff, but we’re still going to play every game with a backup caliber QB and/or a rookie 5th round QB, and while we should get better as time goes on, we’re going to need to be better than that, and also defenses are going to adjust and get tougher.

Agree

In addition, I really wanted to see more of Hall.  Hopefully, when Hall gets through the protocol we swing right back to him even if Dobbs wins next week.  

If Dobbs is 2-0 and can pretty much guarantee the team won't go back to Hall right away. Hall is the guy they were forced to start because we had no one else. Dobbs is the guy they went out and traded for who played good enough to win this week. Most fans are assuming Dobbs was brought in to be the backup, but I'm not sure the coaches see it that way at all. Time will tell. Just because we as fans want to know more about Hall, doesn't mean the coaches do. They get to see him every day in practice so I trust whoever they decide to roll with.

@"BigAl99" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: The win was great and a fun game to watch. Dobbs, KOC and young receivers like Powell deserve all the kudos they're getting. Vikings now control their playoff destiny. 

But for me, I'd be a helluva lot happier if I thought it were sustainable. If Kirk were still playing, we'd know that JJ is soon due to join Addison for a ridiculously dangerous WR duo. Davenport should soon join an improving defense. I'd love to take THAT team to the playoffs. That team could make some noise. 

If Hall were playing, we'd at least be excited about watching what is essentially an audition for QBOTF. 

But it's Dobbs. A guy on his 9th gig in 7 years. There's a reason for that. Look, I'm relentlessly optimistic, but it's pretty hard to believe he can be consistent enough to keep winning. 

The 9th gig in seven years has some context, he was odd man out with some high profile/anointed son QB's ahead of him.  Roethlisberger/Rudolph, Minshew/Lawrence,
Brissett,Watson, Tannehill/Willis.  Cards traded for him, plucked off of Detroit's PS and now he's here.  Could be he has gotten some great experience on other teams payroll, and he's just traveling the road lest traveled.  Not saying he is the QBOTF, but lets not just define him by how he got here without the story behind it.  The QB room has more potential talent now than before he got here and he had a great result in his first game.
Whats bittersweet is watching them win and every victory brings us closer to that 14th to 19th draft slot.