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Hit on Hall (Helmet to Helmet)

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Can someone tell me how that was not a helmet to helmet hit?
I am also at a loss how the TV crew did not even mention that 

#1 · Nov 5, 11:53 AM
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His name isn’t K’aaron Rodgers?

#2 · Nov 5, 12:02 PM
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@"AGRforever" said: His name isn’t K’aaron Rodgers?
I am very frustrated with that no call. It was not that hard to see
#3 · Nov 5, 12:08 PM
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Another helmet hit to KJ

#4 · Nov 5, 12:09 PM
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#5 · Nov 5, 12:12 PM
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vets will get those calls, others wont.  Thats how this ISH works

#6 · Nov 5, 12:22 PM
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Agreed.  That was definitely helmet to helmet.  He came in helmet first and hit him like a right cross to the jaw.  Forget the helmet to the turf afterwards.  The way his head swung around that jarring hit was the KO.  Very frustrating how the calls on that type of play are all over the map.  Of course, high profile players get he call(s) every time, but if the NFL wants to pretend that they are all about player safety and that is "the most important thing" to them, then that call has to be made every time, no matter who is at the receiving end.  How many times have games been stopped to review target or H2H hits.  Nothing on this one?  Move along everyone?  Love this game, but the NFL officiating is being very hypocritical on these calls in particular.

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Hall, crouches into it and stopped.  The defender was going for a tackle, low and away from the head.

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@"greediron" said: Hall, crouches into it and stopped.  The defender was going for a tackle, low and away from the head.
Maybe true,  but we've seen that called many times regardless,  I agree its tough,   but they can't pick and choose when they call it.
#9 · Nov 6, 4:41 AM
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Hall is not a State Farm spokesman so................

#10 · Nov 6, 8:20 AM
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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"greediron" said: Hall, crouches into it and stopped.  The defender was going for a tackle, low and away from the head.
Maybe true,  but we've seen that called many times regardless,  I agree its tough,   but they can't pick and choose when they call it.
Well, I will chose to not gaslight my self even if I am typically a homer.  There is no way you can blame the defender for trying to tackle the runner at the goal line when he went around hip level, had his head out front and the runner changes direction, lowers his head and gets hit.
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@"mblack" said: https://x.com/bsgsportsmedia/status/1721243725530108192
Now I could see complaining about this one.  Yes KJO lowers his level, but the defenseless receiver has been a thing for years, so you don't come in head first on that.
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@"greediron" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"greediron" said: Hall, crouches into it and stopped.  The defender was going for a tackle, low and away from the head.
Maybe true,  but we've seen that called many times regardless,  I agree its tough,   but they can't pick and choose when they call it.
Well, I will chose to not gaslight my self even if I am typically a homer.  There is no way you can blame the defender for trying to tackle the runner at the goal line when he went around hip level, had his head out front and the runner changes direction, lowers his head and gets hit.
I think they need to get rid of the call,  if the runner lowers either his helmet or his body,  no call....ever.  but until they do,  that is a call that gets made often and should have been a flag.
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I get why it was a no call.  I watched it several times in a row and it just looked like a hard shoulder to shoulder hit.  I can see why it was missed.  Obviously we all have replay and slow motion and everything now for us to second guess things, but in the realm of things that are obvious in real time this is not one of them.

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@"medaille" said: I get why it was a no call.  I watched it several times in a row and it just looked like a hard shoulder to shoulder hit.  I can see why it was missed.  Obviously we all have replay and slow motion and everything now for us to second guess things, but in the realm of things that are obvious in real time this is not one of them.
I watched the video and believed it was helmet to helmet.

after reading your post I went back and watched the video “from by frame” and now believe that you may be right.  It appears there was more contact with the shoulders vs a helmet to helmet hit.  Halls head hitting the ground appears to be the worst hit (and maybe what caused the concussion).

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@"ThunderGod" said:
@"medaille" said: I get why it was a no call.  I watched it several times in a row and it just looked like a hard shoulder to shoulder hit.  I can see why it was missed.  Obviously we all have replay and slow motion and everything now for us to second guess things, but in the realm of things that are obvious in real time this is not one of them.
I watched the video and believed it was helmet to helmet.

after reading your post I went back and watched the video “from by frame” and now believe that you may be right.  It appears there was more contact with the shoulders vs a helmet to helmet hit.  Halls head hitting the ground appears to be the worst hit (and maybe what caused the concussion).



That’s funny because I started to get convinced that he was
hit in the head moreso, even though that’s not what I originally saw and the media consensus
was the head hitting the turf was the bad blow. 
Mostly I think it’s one of those times where it’s kind of like an
optical illusion where people can see it either way and I don’t really fault
people for seeing it differently.

#16 · Nov 7, 7:48 AM
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@"medaille" said:
@"ThunderGod" said:
@"medaille" said: I get why it was a no call.  I watched it several times in a row and it just looked like a hard shoulder to shoulder hit.  I can see why it was missed.  Obviously we all have replay and slow motion and everything now for us to second guess things, but in the realm of things that are obvious in real time this is not one of them.
I watched the video and believed it was helmet to helmet.

after reading your post I went back and watched the video “from by frame” and now believe that you may be right.  It appears there was more contact with the shoulders vs a helmet to helmet hit.  Halls head hitting the ground appears to be the worst hit (and maybe what caused the concussion).



That’s funny because I started to get convinced that he was
hit in the head moreso, even though that’s not what I originally saw and the media consensus
was the head hitting the turf was the bad blow. 
Mostly I think it’s one of those times where it’s kind of like an
optical illusion where people can see it either way and I don’t really fault
people for seeing it differently.



I won't argue to hard either way,  but I think he was going out from the initial hit,   one of the slow angles kind of showed him starting to go limp after the initial hit.

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