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And a 2-4 record. Could anything be more Viking?

#1 · Oct 16, 2:12 PM
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Yup, this very point was brought up yesterday...

This could be the best OL we have had in a long while - the boys are finally growing up. Ok, maybe not Ingram - but even he is improving to some degree. 

 Think I saw Risner out there yesterday. 

 Its just not translating to team wins...Hard to overcome a -9 turnover ratio, which is what we had going into the Bears game. 

 They're playing like these guys:

#2 · Oct 16, 2:30 PM
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@"StickyBun" said: And a 2-4 record. Could anything be more Viking?


must be grading on the curve,  no way our IOL is graded that high by anybody that watches football.

#3 · Oct 16, 2:54 PM
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“a chain is no stronger than its weakest link” 

#4 · Oct 16, 3:50 PM
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Hearing this guy say we have an "elite" offensive line is crazy. It just goes to show that analytics don't mean shit and rarely gives an accurate portrayl of the story. 

#5 · Oct 16, 4:03 PM
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@"StickyBun" said: And a 2-4 record. Could anything be more Viking?


Well the O-line finally comes together and the QB and WRs decide to forget to hold onto the ball.

#6 · Oct 16, 5:48 PM
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@"supafreak84" said: Hearing this guy say we have an "elite" offensive line is crazy. It just goes to show that analytics don't mean shit and rarely gives an accurate portrayl of the story. 
I think analytics have a place,  they are the tie breaker when there are no more things to break the tie.  They are the numbers you use to justify the choice you made,  but they arent the reason you make that choice.  I wonder what the analytics said about some of the greats coming out of college,  hell what did they say about Purdy coming out?  IMO they are a fad,  at some point you need football people making football decisions.
#7 · Oct 16, 5:49 PM
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The OL is vastly improved this year but now that JJ is hurt, the weapons fell off a cliff. Because of course.

2 years ago we had JJ, Dalvin, a younger Thielen… All 3 much better than anyone we currently have running or catching the ball. Not surprised the offense struggled in CHI, and that was against a bad defense. Need a lot more come Monday. 

#8 · Oct 16, 6:05 PM
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on what set of metrics are they grading this all world O-line? We have no running game, and our QB is running for his life. Analytics are like stats. You can read into them what you want. The bottom line is that we dominate nobody.

#9 · Oct 16, 7:18 PM
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29th in TO differential, 27th on 3rd down and Last in Drops.  Our oline has played well. 

#10 · Oct 17, 10:40 AM
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I don't know about elite, but they're not far off. The OL is probably one of the top 5 to 10 OLs in football.

I was looking at Bradbury's PFF grades per year: 2019-58, 2020-61, 2021-60, 2022-70, 2023-80. And his pass blocking is now higher than his run blocking, which has always been very good. So far this year (135 snaps), he's given up 0 sacks, 0 hits, 0 pressures and 0 hurries. It appears the team made the right decision to re-sign him. Even Ed Ingram now ranks 27th among 64 guards, which is better than average, and a lot better than last year. 

But with the Vikings it's always whack-a-mole. Fix one thing and another pops up. For this year's Vikings, it's this...

#11 · Oct 17, 11:23 AM
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I think we’re overdue for someone to do a deep dive on this
topic on why our OLine appears to be doing so well according to some metrics,
but also Cousins was getting hit so bad for the first several games and why our
running game is sucking hard.  Get a good OLine they say, that's all Cousins needs to succeed...  You can run the ball effectively with a good OLine and a midlevel back...

#12 · Oct 17, 12:45 PM
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@"medaille" said: I think we’re overdue for someone to do a deep dive on this topic on why our OLine appears to be doing so well according to some metrics, but also Cousins was getting hit so bad for the first several games and why our running game is sucking hard.  Get a good OLine they say, that's all Cousins needs to succeed...  You can run the ball effectively with a good OLine and a midlevel back...


I think that's mostly just a perception. Every QB in the NFL struggles with pressure. Cousins ranks 1st in the NFL in TDs and 2nd in the NFL in yards. He's the 13th most sacked QB and the 14th most hurried. Among the top 10 QBs, the amount of time he has in the pocket ranks 3rd.

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