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Can we all relax now? Maybe realize Minnesota is trying to do better than Duke Shelley......and Shelley isn't good? 

#1 · Aug 30, 5:25 AM
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Nope no relaxing is allowed 

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Shelley played well for us in the few games he got (I doubt we beat the Bills without him). But considering the Vikings wouldn't bump their offer by a measly 100K to keep him, we can probably assume he wasn't a Flores corner. All the Viking corners currently on the roster are 5-11 and above. 

Since Najee Thompson is a ST only corner, the Vikings could still be looking for one more. 

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@"MaroonBells" said: Shelley played well for us in the few games he got (I doubt we beat the Bills without him). But considering the Vikings wouldn't bump their offer by a measly 100K to keep him, we can probably assume he wasn't a Flores corner. All the Viking corners currently on the roster are 5-11 and above. 

Since Najee Thompson is a ST only corner, the Vikings could still be looking for one more. 


Well, he's also not a Raiders' corner either, along with not being a 'Flores corner'. My point is he might have played well in a very short stint, but he's not a good corner. Minnesota is trying to elevate the position. I suppose it doesn't mean they might not resign him, but why? It would be a step back in my opinion.

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@"StickyBun" said:
@"MaroonBells" said: Shelley played well for us in the few games he got (I doubt we beat the Bills without him). But considering the Vikings wouldn't bump their offer by a measly 100K to keep him, we can probably assume he wasn't a Flores corner. All the Viking corners currently on the roster are 5-11 and above. 

Since Najee Thompson is a ST only corner, the Vikings could still be looking for one more. 


Well, he's also not a Raiders' corner either, along with not being a 'Flores corner'. My point is he might have played well in a very short stint, but he's not a good corner. Minnesota is trying to elevate the position. I suppose it doesn't mean they might not resign him, but why? It would be a step back in my opinion.



We are talking about 4th and 5th corners here. 

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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
@"MaroonBells" said: Shelley played well for us in the few games he got (I doubt we beat the Bills without him). But considering the Vikings wouldn't bump their offer by a measly 100K to keep him, we can probably assume he wasn't a Flores corner. All the Viking corners currently on the roster are 5-11 and above. 

Since Najee Thompson is a ST only corner, the Vikings could still be looking for one more. 


Well, he's also not a Raiders' corner either, along with not being a 'Flores corner'. My point is he might have played well in a very short stint, but he's not a good corner. Minnesota is trying to elevate the position. I suppose it doesn't mean they might not resign him, but why? It would be a step back in my opinion.



We are talking about 4th and 5th corners here. 


Yep, I hear you. Still feel the same personally.

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I'm trying to decide if he should go to the left or right of Audi Cole on the Vikings Mt. Rushmore.

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@"StickyBun" said:
@"MaroonBells" said: Shelley played well for us in the few games he got (I doubt we beat the Bills without him). But considering the Vikings wouldn't bump their offer by a measly 100K to keep him, we can probably assume he wasn't a Flores corner. All the Viking corners currently on the roster are 5-11 and above. 

Since Najee Thompson is a ST only corner, the Vikings could still be looking for one more. 


Well, he's also not a Raiders' corner either, along with not being a 'Flores corner'. My point is he might have played well in a very short stint, but he's not a good corner. Minnesota is trying to elevate the position. I suppose it doesn't mean they might not resign him, but why? It would be a step back in my opinion.



A step back how? 
Shelley has more NFL snaps then the our entire non-Murphy CB room and
has historically beaten out some of these guys for playing time. 
What are the odds we’re going to find both a CB2 and a nickel on our
roster that’s better than Shelley?
The only way our CB room makes sense is if you are planning for 2024 and want to go with potential.  There's nothing about our CB room that says we're serious about 2023.

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Wonder how often teams cut players not for a lack of talent but for character and moral issues? 

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Last I saw he was CB8 on da Raiders depth chart…

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@"Still Hurtn" said: Wonder how often teams cut players not for a lack of talent but for character and moral issues? 
I hadn't heard either re: Shelley?

Is that just a hypothesis? 

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@"purplefaithful" said:
@"Still Hurtn" said: Wonder how often teams cut players not for a lack of talent but for character and moral issues? 
I hadn't heard either re: Shelley?

Is that just a hypothesis? 



Hypothesis.. just curious on how team evaluate 

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@"medaille" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
@"MaroonBells" said: Shelley played well for us in the few games he got (I doubt we beat the Bills without him). But considering the Vikings wouldn't bump their offer by a measly 100K to keep him, we can probably assume he wasn't a Flores corner. All the Viking corners currently on the roster are 5-11 and above. 

Since Najee Thompson is a ST only corner, the Vikings could still be looking for one more. 


Well, he's also not a Raiders' corner either, along with not being a 'Flores corner'. My point is he might have played well in a very short stint, but he's not a good corner. Minnesota is trying to elevate the position. I suppose it doesn't mean they might not resign him, but why? It would be a step back in my opinion.



A step back how? 
Shelley has more NFL snaps then the our entire non-Murphy CB room and
has historically beaten out some of these guys for playing time. 
What are the odds we’re going to find both a CB2 and a nickel on our
roster that’s better than Shelley?
The only way our CB room makes sense is if you are planning for 2024 and want to go with potential.  There's nothing about our CB room that says we're serious about 2023.


Medaille— I agree. His play last season was not a small sample size. He proved he belongs in the league. I personally would love to see him back. Maybe he could teach Andrew Booth a few things.  

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@"Kentis" said: Last I saw he was CB8 on da Raiders depth chart…
...and people want him back.
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@"StickyBun" said:
@"Kentis" said: Last I saw he was CB8 on da Raiders depth chart…
...and people want him back.
Scheme thing?  Or where would our CBs be on the Raiders depth chart?

Not saying he's a great player,   but CB is about our weakest position so 8 for the Raiders might be a 4 for us based on scheme and team depth ( dont know Raiders situation)

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@"StickyBun" said:
@"Kentis" said: Last I saw he was CB8 on da Raiders depth chart…
...and people want him back.
we should sign him so we can trade him.
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