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Is this guy gonna make the club from the tub???
Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger!
Blub blub blub
Doubtful.
He'll make the team. He's our #1 kick returner and our RB3. But to have any hope of seeing him this season he has to make the 53 before going on IR. If he goes on IR before that, he's out for the year.
Would he possibly begin on IR or the Practice Squad?
He's been in the tub since the start of TC
He is a game changer with his speed and kick returning ability, which we especially need in backfield without Dalvin, the big question is his health, either he is on the roster or IR.
Anybody know what's actually wrong health wise? I don't recall ever hearing KOC address it.
@"Montana Tom" said: Would he possibly begin on IR or the Practice Squad? He's been in the tub since the start of TCThey can place him on IR after the cut-down and the 53 man roster is established. This way he can return after just 4 games.
I dunno. Can Brandon Powell do what he does? He is just a KR and really doesn't offer much in the backfield. Iowa state found that out.
@"kmillard" said: I dunno. Can Brandon Powell do what he does? He is just a KR and really doesn't offer much in the backfield. Iowa state found that out.No, not even close. Powell is a 5'8" WR who in 44 games has 43 receptions and has average 21 yards a kick return with 0 TDs in 4 seasons, while Kene is 6'1" 210 and averages 28 yards a kick return and 4 TDs in two seasons. There really is no reason for Powell to be ahead of Reagor, Nailor or Jackson other than his relationship with KOC.
@"kmillard" said: I dunno. Can Brandon Powell do what he does? He is just a KR and really doesn't offer much in the backfield. Iowa state found that out.I agree. Kene is not an NFL RB. But Chandler, not Powell, is the KR if for whatever reason Kene doesn't make the team.
Powell is in a fight with Reagor for one of the last WR spots. I think Powell gets it. As good a camp as Reagor has had, Powell's was even better. And while Reagor played in the final preseason game, Powell didn't even suit up. That says a lot.
@"MaroonBells" said:@"kmillard" said: I dunno. Can Brandon Powell do what he does? He is just a KR and really doesn't offer much in the backfield. Iowa state found that out. I agree. Kene is not an NFL RB. But Chandler, not Powell, is the KR if for whatever reason Kene doesn't make the team.Powell is in a fight with Reagor for one of the last WR spots. I think Powell gets it. As good a camp as Reagor has had, Powell's was even better. And while Reagor played in the final preseason game, Powell didn't even suit up. That says a lot.
So who's ready to trust Reagor? When he runs the wrong route and causes Kirko to throw an ugly INT, then what? I'll take Powell every day and twice on football Sunday for the last WRer spot. The problem is: who's returning punts?
@"StickyBun" said:@"MaroonBells" said:@"kmillard" said: I dunno. Can Brandon Powell do what he does? He is just a KR and really doesn't offer much in the backfield. Iowa state found that out. I agree. Kene is not an NFL RB. But Chandler, not Powell, is the KR if for whatever reason Kene doesn't make the team.Powell is in a fight with Reagor for one of the last WR spots. I think Powell gets it. As good a camp as Reagor has had, Powell's was even better. And while Reagor played in the final preseason game, Powell didn't even suit up. That says a lot.
So who's ready to trust Reagor? When he runs the wrong route and causes Kirko to throw an ugly INT, then what? I'll take Powell every day and twice on football Sunday for the last WRer spot. The problem is: who's returning punts?
Powell.
@"MaroonBells" said:@"StickyBun" said:@"MaroonBells" said:@"kmillard" said: I dunno. Can Brandon Powell do what he does? He is just a KR and really doesn't offer much in the backfield. Iowa state found that out. I agree. Kene is not an NFL RB. But Chandler, not Powell, is the KR if for whatever reason Kene doesn't make the team.Powell is in a fight with Reagor for one of the last WR spots. I think Powell gets it. As good a camp as Reagor has had, Powell's was even better. And while Reagor played in the final preseason game, Powell didn't even suit up. That says a lot.
So who's ready to trust Reagor? When he runs the wrong route and causes Kirko to throw an ugly INT, then what? I'll take Powell every day and twice on football Sunday for the last WRer spot. The problem is: who's returning punts?
Powell.
Here's a name PA was musing about this am - we dont talk much about him;
DYKES
Kick return??? not going to be many this year. any fair catch kick is moved to the 25. The NFL is doing every thing it can to remove the kickoff
@"rf54" said: Kick return??? not going to be many this year. any fair catch kick is moved to the 25. The NFL is doing every thing it can to remove the kickoffSeemed we saw KR in the preseason plenty. If the teams plans are for that then why risk players health in meaningless games? I didn't think that was on all kickoffs, just following safeties and on kickoffs where the opposing team has a penalty or some such shit. They are estimating this will only drop the return rate by about 7%, so whatever the rule is, they still expect over 30% of all kickoffs to be returned so the need for a guy that can do it well is still essential.
I was at a CFL game last week. Love the kickoffs up there. If a team does not return it, 1 point for the kicking team. ( I know the NFL would never do this).
@"JimmyinSD" said:Preseason when young players are trying to make a team? Teams are constantly looking at the data, i am sure that all their preseason returns are being looked at to determin if the 25 is a better starting point vs returns that 1 in 10 may lead to a longer return... I am just reading the tea leaves, during the regular season there will be less returns, there were less last year and the rule change will lead to less this year. Last year Kene avg 26.3 yds/return. Is it worth having a roster spot taken up for one yard?@"rf54" said: Kick return??? not going to be many this year. any fair catch kick is moved to the 25. The NFL is doing every thing it can to remove the kickoff Seemed we saw KR in the preseason plenty. If the teams plans are for that then why risk players health in meaningless games? I didn't think that was on all kickoffs, just following safeties and on kickoffs where the opposing team has a penalty or some such shit. They are estimating this will only drop the return rate by about 7%, so whatever the rule is, they still expect over 30% of all kickoffs to be returned so the need for a guy that can do it well is still essential.
@"rf54" said: Kick return??? not going to be many this year. any fair catch kick is moved to the 25. The NFL is doing every thing it can to remove the kickoffThat's a good point about the rule change. But I just don't see many KRs fair catching a kickoff inside the 25. Unlike punts, you usually have some decent runway to make a return.
@"rf54" said:The leagues numbers ( prior to pre-season ) 38% of kicks get returned, they expect the new rule change to drop that to 30%, only 8% less kicks getting returned with the new rule is what they are expecting according to their experts, however they feel that lowering this number will have a greater impact on prevented concussions. As far as return yard avg, that is the dumbest stat in the league, when we had CP here people always talked about return yards, but that fool was running everything out regardless of how deep it was, and since return yards are counted from where the ball starts and not from the goal line, his 20+ avg looked good on paper, until you factored in the amount of yards he gave away by not just taking a knee, however after the league changed the touch back to the 25, more teams started kicking short of the goal line so Kenes return yards are mostly all true return yards and with out knowing his avg true fielding position ( sometimes as far up as the 10.. then its significantly more that 1.3 more yards than the touchback, not to mention he fills the roll of a reserve RB, which they are going to carry anyway, at least he is a good ST contributor as well. not to mention his homerun potential on those kick offs.@"JimmyinSD" said:Preseason when young players are trying to make a team? Teams are constantly looking at the data, i am sure that all their preseason returns are being looked at to determin if the 25 is a better starting point vs returns that 1 in 10 may lead to a longer return... I am just reading the tea leaves, during the regular season there will be less returns, there were less last year and the rule change will lead to less this year. Last year Kene avg 26.3 yds/return. Is it worth having a roster spot taken up for one yard?@"rf54" said: Kick return??? not going to be many this year. any fair catch kick is moved to the 25. The NFL is doing every thing it can to remove the kickoff Seemed we saw KR in the preseason plenty. If the teams plans are for that then why risk players health in meaningless games? I didn't think that was on all kickoffs, just following safeties and on kickoffs where the opposing team has a penalty or some such shit. They are estimating this will only drop the return rate by about 7%, so whatever the rule is, they still expect over 30% of all kickoffs to be returned so the need for a guy that can do it well is still essential.in the end, I question some other roster spots more than Fast Kennys roll.
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