Record Deal on the Table for JJ?

@"medaille" said: I think where things could get muddy is the farther the Vikings let the season go, the less injury risk there is allowing Cousins to test the FA waters and drive up his price.  I think the Vikings are pretty well suited to win a FA competition than most other teams, as I do think we’re both a great fit for his lifestyle and we have the players and scheme to make him look good and his family has probably put down some amount of roots, but if some other team is in the mix and starts offering $10M more a year or an extra year of guaranteed money, then I think all bets are off.

Heard this morning they are putting things in hold until after the season.  Couldn't come to terms on the guarantee portion.

Thought this was interesting. Florio stating he believed that if the Vikings did not sign Jefferson prior to week 1, they were going to use him as trade bait to move up in the draft next year for Caleb Williams or Drake Maye and he's more tradable on a rookie contract. 

How many of ya'll on board with that one if it happens?

No!

@"supafreak84" said: https://youtu.be/wsv-7VySnrY?si=uwvc1Qa2SbtB67-_

Thought this was interesting. Florio stating he believed that if the Vikings did not sign Jefferson prior to week 1, they were going to use him as trade bait to move up in the draft next year for Caleb Williams or Drake Maye and he's more tradable on a rookie contract. 

How many of ya'll on board with that one if it happens?

Except it won't be Kwesi's "idea".

Rather it'll be JJ saying he doesn't want to be in Minnesota.   SEE S.Diggs

Why? 

Simple Wilfs' are great at making money, but they suck at building Superbowl contenders.  

@"supafreak84" said: https://youtu.be/wsv-7VySnrY?si=uwvc1Qa2SbtB67-_

Thought this was interesting. Florio stating he believed that if the Vikings did not sign Jefferson prior to week 1, they were going to use him as trade bait to move up in the draft next year for Caleb Williams or Drake Maye and he's more tradable on a rookie contract. 

How many of ya'll on board with that one if it happens?

Yeah… no. If a team at 1 or 2 is willing to move back, I’d much rather see the Vikings trade the farm and then some with picks than to trade JJ.

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"supafreak84" said: https://youtu.be/wsv-7VySnrY?si=uwvc1Qa2SbtB67-_

Thought this was interesting. Florio stating he believed that if the Vikings did not sign Jefferson prior to week 1, they were going to use him as trade bait to move up in the draft next year for Caleb Williams or Drake Maye and he's more tradable on a rookie contract. 

How many of ya'll on board with that one if it happens?

No, this is even dumber than the moronic Cousins trade ideas we endured all year. It would just never happen. If that smug stinkweasel Florio thinks any GM is going to trade away the NFL's best offensive weapon for an unknown he's even stupider than he looks. 

Never trade 1 in the hand for 2 in the bush.

@"purplefaithful" said: Never trade 1 in the hand for 2 in the bush.

What if you like a big beautiful bush?

@"AGRforever" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: Never trade 1 in the hand for 2 in the bush.

What if you like a big beautiful bush?

It would have to be a damn good QB prospect,  but a JJ wont do much good if we dont get the QB situation resolved.  So,  if the compensation justifies it,  yes,  JJ could be on the table,  but his value right would have to be equal to at least 2 first rounders based on his age and accomplishments to date,  not to mention his rookie contract status which creates more cap flexibility for what ever team.  I wouldnt lead with him as part of the offer,  but for the right QB prospect,  he wouldnt be off the table.

@"JimmyinSD" said: It would have to be a damn good QB prospect,  but a JJ wont do much good if we dont get the QB situation resolved.  So,  if the compensation justifies it,  yes,  JJ could be on the table,  but his value right would have to be equal to at least 2 first rounders based on his age and accomplishments to date,  not to mention his rookie contract status which creates more cap flexibility for what ever team.  I wouldnt lead with him as part of the offer,  but for the right QB prospect,  he wouldnt be off the table.

@"minny65" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said: It would have to be a damn good QB prospect,  but a JJ wont do much good if we dont get the QB situation resolved.  So,  if the compensation justifies it,  yes,  JJ could be on the table,  but his value right would have to be equal to at least 2 first rounders based on his age and accomplishments to date,  not to mention his rookie contract status which creates more cap flexibility for what ever team.  I wouldnt lead with him as part of the offer,  but for the right QB prospect,  he wouldnt be off the table.

Hey, I have been all in on drafting a QB high for years but for me JJ is off the table.  

@"Knucklehead" said:

@"minny65" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said: It would have to be a damn good QB prospect,  but a JJ wont do much good if we dont get the QB situation resolved.  So,  if the compensation justifies it,  yes,  JJ could be on the table,  but his value right would have to be equal to at least 2 first rounders based on his age and accomplishments to date,  not to mention his rookie contract status which creates more cap flexibility for what ever team.  I wouldnt lead with him as part of the offer,  but for the right QB prospect,  he wouldnt be off the table.

Hey, I have been all in on drafting a QB high for years but for me JJ is off the table.  

Yep....If you're going to start a rookie QB, he's more likely to succeed with elite talent behind him.

@"minny65" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said: It would have to be a damn good QB prospect,  but a JJ wont do much good if we dont get the QB situation resolved.  So,  if the compensation justifies it,  yes,  JJ could be on the table,  but his value right would have to be equal to at least 2 first rounders based on his age and accomplishments to date,  not to mention his rookie contract status which creates more cap flexibility for what ever team.  I wouldnt lead with him as part of the offer,  but for the right QB prospect,  he wouldnt be off the table.

Hey, I have been all in on drafting a QB high for years but for me JJ is off the table.  

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"minny65" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said: It would have to be a damn good QB prospect,  but a JJ wont do much good if we dont get the QB situation resolved.  So,  if the compensation justifies it,  yes,  JJ could be on the table,  but his value right would have to be equal to at least 2 first rounders based on his age and accomplishments to date,  not to mention his rookie contract status which creates more cap flexibility for what ever team.  I wouldnt lead with him as part of the offer,  but for the right QB prospect,  he wouldnt be off the table.

Hey, I have been all in on drafting a QB high for years but for me JJ is off the table.  

I go along with that,  but we also could use an influx of talent at a lot of other positions that would benefit from those first round picks.  JJ is a blast to watch and is certainly one of the premier WR in the game, but look at the WR talent that has been coming out the last few years,  a top tier WR is not the unicorn they once were,  so if I had to choose between giving up 3 firsts to move up,  or JJ and 1 first and maybe get something in return,  I am likely moving JJ if I have no other moves.  The QB is the key,  after that I think IDL becomes the next most important piece and we certainly need to make some investments there as well and drafting them seems to be about the best way to fill those roles.

@"medaille" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"minny65" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said: It would have to be a damn good QB prospect,  but a JJ wont do much good if we dont get the QB situation resolved.  So,  if the compensation justifies it,  yes,  JJ could be on the table,  but his value right would have to be equal to at least 2 first rounders based on his age and accomplishments to date,  not to mention his rookie contract status which creates more cap flexibility for what ever team.  I wouldnt lead with him as part of the offer,  but for the right QB prospect,  he wouldnt be off the table.

Hey, I have been all in on drafting a QB high for years but for me JJ is off the table.  

I go along with that,  but we also could use an influx of talent at a lot of other positions that would benefit from those first round picks.  JJ is a blast to watch and is certainly one of the premier WR in the game, but look at the WR talent that has been coming out the last few years,  a top tier WR is not the unicorn they once were,  so if I had to choose between giving up 3 firsts to move up,  or JJ and 1 first and maybe get something in return,  I am likely moving JJ if I have no other moves.  The QB is the key,  after that I think IDL becomes the next most important piece and we certainly need to make some investments there as well and drafting them seems to be about the best way to fill those roles.

I think if you’re talking about spending 3 firsts to move up to draft a QB you’re doing it wrong.  Even the surest can’t miss prospects are probably 50-50 chances for busting vs being a competent starter, and even less likely to be that SB caliber guy you are looking for.  Wait for a guy you like to fall to somewhere that’s within reach of a reasonable trade.  Then go get your guy.  Then do it again the next time a guy you like is available.  What fucks teams over is going all in on a guy, having it fail and then having so much invested in that one guy, that they wait 5+ years to try again.  Putting all your eggs in one basket that has a high percent chance to fail is a bad strategy.  Being forced to resign your Derek Carr’s of the world to a massive contract because you don’t have another guy in the pipeline is also a bad strategy.