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Passing on Hackett a good thing....

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#1 · Jul 27, 8:05 AM
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I think it is just a classic case of Good coordinator and bad head coach. Happens all the time.

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@"kmillard" said: I think it is just a classic case of Good coordinator and bad head coach. Happens all the time.
Some were meant to be head coaches and some were meant to be coordinators. Those that realize early on and settle in are the best. Maybe Hackett knows now that’s he’s probably the latter. Of course take away a HOF QB or give them a washed up QB and some coordinators become average. We’ll see which one Hackett is after Aaron is out of the picture.  Brad Childress’ offense didn’t suddenly become Kick Ass because of his play calling. Favre came in a lit things up for a year, then it went back to being below average.
#3 · Jul 27, 8:35 AM
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Stay classy Sean Payton…! 
;) 

#4 · Jul 27, 2:06 PM
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@"Kentis" said:   Stay classy Sean Payton…!  ;) 
stay?
#5 · Jul 27, 2:33 PM
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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Kentis" said:   Stay classy Sean Payton…!  ;) 
stay?
I know right? When was he ever classy?
#6 · Jul 27, 2:50 PM
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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Kentis" said:   Stay classy Sean Payton…!  ;) 
stay?
@"1VikesFan" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Kentis" said:   Stay classy Sean Payton…!  ;) 
stay?
I know right? When was he ever classy?
I know, ‘cause I’m never ever sarcastic don’t ya know…  ;) B) :p 
#7 · Jul 27, 2:58 PM
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Passing on Jim Harbaugh was also a good move. 

#8 · Jul 27, 5:57 PM
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@"Mattyman" said: Passing on Jim Harbaugh was also a good move. 


Shhh. Don't tell Comet that.

#9 · Jul 28, 5:00 AM
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Payton has always been an asshat...
I hope he fails miserably in Mile High. 
It doesnt make up for 09, but beating them at home in the playoffs and sending him and Brees off was quite satisfying.
So was the Minny Miracle. 

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@"purplefaithful" said: Payton has always been an asshat... I hope he fails miserably in Mile High.  It doesnt make up for 09, but beating them at home in the playoffs and sending him and Brees off was quite satisfying. So was the Minny Miracle. 


Reading some spin doctors online saying Payton did this on purpose to take pressure of Russ, lol. Crazy some excuse makers for this guy being a straight up asshole.

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3BPJz39c_jA

Ranks right up there with standing on the opponents symbol at mid field

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@"StickyBun" said:
@"Mattyman" said: Passing on Jim Harbaugh was also a good move. 


Shhh. Don't tell Comet that.


Hey it's who our g.m. wanted, and I support our g.m.  Btw did you know he's black?  Supafreak84 just let me in on the big news!

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@"comet52" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
@"Mattyman" said: Passing on Jim Harbaugh was also a good move. 


Shhh. Don't tell Comet that.


Hey it's who our g.m. wanted, and I support our g.m.  Btw did you know he's black?  Supafreak84 just let me in on the big news!


lol, I didn't know!

#14 · Jul 29, 8:51 AM
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I see Rodgers stood up and blasted this douchebag, good for him. 

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@"comet52" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
@"Mattyman" said: Passing on Jim Harbaugh was also a good move. 


Shhh. Don't tell Comet that.


Hey it's who our g.m. wanted, and I support our g.m.  Btw did you know he's black?  Supafreak84 just let me in on the big news!


Whats his skin color got to do with anything unless he was hired or not hired because of it?

#16 · Jul 31, 5:58 AM
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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"comet52" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
@"Mattyman" said: Passing on Jim Harbaugh was also a good move. 


Shhh. Don't tell Comet that.


Hey it's who our g.m. wanted, and I support our g.m.  Btw did you know he's black?  Supafreak84 just let me in on the big news!


Whats his skin color got to do with anything unless he was hired or not hired because of it?


You missed the 500 supafreak posts referencing it?  Tsk tsk.  

#17 · Jul 31, 7:17 AM
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@"comet52" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"comet52" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
@"Mattyman" said: Passing on Jim Harbaugh was also a good move. 


Shhh. Don't tell Comet that.


Hey it's who our g.m. wanted, and I support our g.m.  Btw did you know he's black?  Supafreak84 just let me in on the big news!


Whats his skin color got to do with anything unless he was hired or not hired because of it?


You missed the 500 supafreak posts referencing it?  Tsk tsk.  


He didn't care if the man had black skin,  he was concerned that the skin color was the determining factor in his hiring and not the quality of his resume.  Pretty sad that some have to try and make everything about race or try and use it to shame people in disagreement. 

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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"comet52" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"comet52" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
@"Mattyman" said: Passing on Jim Harbaugh was also a good move. 


Shhh. Don't tell Comet that.


Hey it's who our g.m. wanted, and I support our g.m.  Btw did you know he's black?  Supafreak84 just let me in on the big news!


Whats his skin color got to do with anything unless he was hired or not hired because of it?


You missed the 500 supafreak posts referencing it?  Tsk tsk.  


He didn't care if the man had black skin,  he was concerned that the skin color was the determining factor in his hiring and not the quality of his resume.  Pretty sad that some have to try and make everything about race or try and use it to shame people in disagreement. 


Well expressing that concern once or twice might be of some value... if there were going to be an actual, respectful and meaningful dialogue about it.   Not that I believe that's why he was hired, it's just a meaningless trope as far as I'm concerned.  

But be that as it may, expressing that notion over and over and over and over like you're beating a dead horse, doesn't really deserve anything except maybe having a little gentle fun poked at you, which was my only intent here.   

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@"comet52" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"comet52" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"comet52" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
@"Mattyman" said: Passing on Jim Harbaugh was also a good move. 


Shhh. Don't tell Comet that.


Hey it's who our g.m. wanted, and I support our g.m.  Btw did you know he's black?  Supafreak84 just let me in on the big news!


Whats his skin color got to do with anything unless he was hired or not hired because of it?


You missed the 500 supafreak posts referencing it?  Tsk tsk.  


He didn't care if the man had black skin,  he was concerned that the skin color was the determining factor in his hiring and not the quality of his resume.  Pretty sad that some have to try and make everything about race or try and use it to shame people in disagreement. 


Well expressing that concern once or twice might be of some value... if there were going to be an actual, respectful and meaningful dialogue about it.   Not that I believe that's why he was hired, it's just a meaningless trope as far as I'm concerned.  

But be that as it may, expressing that notion over and over and over and over like you're beating a dead horse, doesn't really deserve anything except maybe having a little gentle fun poked at you, which was my only intent here.   



Internet message boards could be named "dead horse beating society"

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FLORHAM PARK, N.J. — Aaron Rodgers is sticking by his offensive coordinator and firing his hardest throw of the summer at Sean Payton.
The Jets quarterback was bothered by critical comments Payton, the Denver Broncos' head coach, recently made about offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett. Payton told USA Today for a story published Thursday that Hackett's 15-game stint with the Broncos last season ''was one of the worst coaching jobs in the history of the NFL.″
Payton also said there were ''20 dirty hands'' around Russell Wilson's career-worst season, and took some shots at the Jets — Hackett's new team where he and Rodgers are reunited after enjoying success together in Green Bay.
''It made me feel bad that someone who has accomplished a lot in the league is that insecure that they have to take another man down to set themselves up for some sort of easy fall if it doesn't go well for that team this year,'' Rodgers told NFL Network on Sunday. ''I think it was way out of line, inappropriate, and I think he needs to keep my coaches' names out of his mouth.''
Rodgers, acquired by New York in April from Green Bay, said Hackett is ''arguably my favorite coach I've ever had in the NFL.'' The pair was together for two of Rodgers' four NFL MVP awards in 2020 and 2021 with the Packers.
During the interview with USA Today's Jarrett Bell, Payton also criticized the Jets being the latest NFL team ''trying to win the offseason'' — something he said the Broncos under Hackett tried to do and were ''embarrassed.''
Jets coach Robert Saleh said Thursday ''Hackett's doing a phenomenal job here'' when asked about Payton's comments. He also said the Jets are just focused on themselves, but recognizes ''there's a lot of people that are hatin' on us and a lot of people looking for us to fail.''
Payton on Friday said he regretted his comments in which he disparaged Hackett, and said he would reach out to Hackett and Saleh ''at the right time'' to do so.
''Listen, I had one of those moments where I still had my Fox hat on and not my coaching hat,'' said Payton, who's returning to the sideline this season after a year's sabbatical during which he worked as a studio football analyst for Fox Sports following a 15-year stint with the New Orleans Saints.
Rodgers told NFL Network he thought Payton's initial comments "were very surprising, for a coach to do that to another coach."
Meanwhile, the back-and-forth made the Jets' matchup in Denver in Week 5 on Oct. 8 a bit juicier. Payton acknowledged Friday his comments ''certainly will bring more interest to the game when we play them, but that seems like years from now.'
https://www.startribune.com/jets-aaron-rodgers-defends-nathaniel-hackett-and-fires-back-at-the-broncos-sean-payton/600293562/

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