YouTube TV and NFL Sunday ticket

I wonder if the “90 day home base connection” thing will hold true?  Can I ups a roku stick back and forth to my BIL who is signing up for it and split the cost of the service?

A bit off topic, but I just switched from YouTube TV to Fubo TV and I love it.  Fubo now has Bally Sports Network so I can watch the Wild and Twins.  The User Interface navigating is easily as good but I think better than YouTube as well.  The stand alone Bally Sports Plus streaming service won't air Twins games so I dumped that.  Really happy with Fubo TV so far and I don't miss YouTube TV one bit.  The Fubo plan I have is $85 monthly, but YouTube TV just jumped to $73 monthly and Bally Sports Plus was $15.

It's really getting out of reach with the inflation economy, not to mention the black market games that will be playing along side their gratuitous pay platform. NFL is blatantly showing its ugly end game. It will be the NBA/MLB in short order where nobody gives a F. Killing the golden goose is so avoidable.  

Lets assume I can split the nfl ticket with my BIL. I haven’t paid for NFL in years. I would pay the $125 to not deal with the BS of finding a stream every weekend. 

I’d consider paying $250 but that’s probably as high as I’d go. 

Figuring cost of early registration with red zone plus monthly subscription it's about $35 a week to see all Vikes games. For me at least that's not horrible.

Wonder if you will be able to stream on more than one device at a time and possibly share a membership with someone.  One of the things I didn't like about DirectTV streaming was you could only do one devices at a time.  

Was hoping they were going to reduce the cost.  

I have YouTube TV and I'm stoked. Will order the early bird Ticket/Redzone combo this week. Done and done. 

And as far as the price, its gone down:

For 2023, the pricing for Sunday Ticket is actually pretty competitive, if not better, than what DirecTV was offering last year. In 2022, the cheapest Sunday Ticket package cost $293.94, but you had to subscribe to DirecTV. Any YouTube TV subscribers who sign up now will be getting a nice discount compared to last year's price. 

@"mgobluevikes" said: It's really getting out of reach with the inflation economy, not to mention the black market games that will be playing along side their gratuitous pay platform. NFL is blatantly showing its ugly end game. It will be the NBA/MLB in short order where nobody gives a F. Killing the golden goose is so avoidable.  

I can't remember what I paid DTV when I had it, but I'm fairly certain $249 is less than that. 

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"mgobluevikes" said: It's really getting out of reach with the inflation economy, not to mention the black market games that will be playing along side their gratuitous pay platform. NFL is blatantly showing its ugly end game. It will be the NBA/MLB in short order where nobody gives a F. Killing the golden goose is so avoidable.  

This again? People have been saying this for 20 years. The NFL is a business and they sell a product people want. If you don't want it, don't watch it. But don't pretend everyone agrees with you and the NFL will be sorry. 

I can't remember what I paid DTV when I had it, but I'm fairly certain $249 is less than that. 

@"AGRforever" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"mgobluevikes" said: It's really getting out of reach with the inflation economy, not to mention the black market games that will be playing along side their gratuitous pay platform. NFL is blatantly showing its ugly end game. It will be the NBA/MLB in short order where nobody gives a F. Killing the golden goose is so avoidable.  

This again? People have been saying this for 20 years. The NFL is a business and they sell a product people want. If you don't want it, don't watch it. But don't pretend everyone agrees with you and the NFL will be sorry. 

I can't remember what I paid DTV when I had it, but I'm fairly certain $249 is less than that. 

If they set the price to high pirating will just take over.  There were games on traditional streaming services this year and it was better quality for free on pirating sites.  I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just that it happens.  The NFL can't raise prices indefinitely and not lose market share. 

It's really getting out of reach with the inflation economy, not to mention the black market games that will be playing along side their gratuitous pay platform. NFL is blatantly showing its ugly end game. It will be the NBA/MLB in short order where nobody gives a F. Killing the golden goose is so avoidable.  

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"AGRforever" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"mgobluevikes" said: It's really getting out of reach with the inflation economy, not to mention the black market games that will be playing along side their gratuitous pay platform. NFL is blatantly showing its ugly end game. It will be the NBA/MLB in short order where nobody gives a F. Killing the golden goose is so avoidable.  

This again? People have been saying this for 20 years. The NFL is a business and they sell a product people want. If you don't want it, don't watch it. But don't pretend everyone agrees with you and the NFL will be sorry. 

I can't remember what I paid DTV when I had it, but I'm fairly certain $249 is less than that. 

If they set the price to high pirating will just take over.  There were games on traditional streaming services this year and it was better quality for free on pirating sites.  I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just that it happens.  The NFL can't raise prices indefinitely and not lose market share. 

I'm fairly certain $249/mo is less than what I paid for DTV and NFLST 5 years ago. But how so better quality? Since you're the Pirate King, I'm sure you're set up to watch games with hardware/software most of us don't bother with. 

But personally I don't think I've ever been able to watch a pirated game without suffering through countless pop ups before landing on the right site, and then suffering through countless feed drops and buffering delays. And since it's so unreliable, forget about having anyone over. 

Considering $400 to $600 monthly bills for cars, insurance, groceries, etc. $50 a month to be able to watch my team, record it, stop and start it, all in 4K, seems like not a lot. 

$250 actually feels pretty fair. It's not cheap by any means but I agree with others-- pirating games stinks. The idea that the quality and experience is as good or better than the official offerings just isn't true. Thankfully my home market gets most Vikings games and I only have to begrudgingly pirate or go to a bar for a couple games/year.
For people thinking $250 is too much, I'm curious what price you think would be reasonable? $170 or $10/game might be nice I guess but this package isn't just the Vikings, it's everything. As someone who watches 6-8 NFL games every week, an extra $80 to get every other game on top of that Vikings price doesn't seem too bad. If you are a fan who ONLY watches Vikings games then I understand where it might seem a little pricey I guess.

@"pattersaur" said:

$250 actually feels pretty fair. It's not cheap by any means but I agree with others-- pirating games stinks. The idea that the quality and experience is as good or better than the official offerings just isn't true. Thankfully my home market gets most Vikings games and I only have to begrudgingly pirate or go to a bar for a couple games/year. For people thinking $250 is too much, I'm curious what price you think would be reasonable? $170 or $10/game might be nice I guess but this package isn't just the Vikings, it's everything. As someone who watches 6-8 NFL games every week, an extra $80 to get every other game on top of that Vikings price doesn't seem too bad. If you are a fan who ONLY watches Vikings games then I understand where it might seem a little pricey I guess.

It is the same that I have paid for the ticket the past few seasons as long as you sign up early.  I do not have YouTube TV so it will be 350 instead of 250, which is totally understandable that they would offer an incentive to be a YouTube TV subscriber.  The one issue I have is why there is such a variance if you do not sign up before June 6, not sure why they need to then raise it to 450, there will be a lot of people have to pay 100 more, because they were not aware of it.  They could maybe start something like that in their 2nd year and give people the option of an auto renewal.  

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"AGRforever" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"mgobluevikes" said: It's really getting out of reach with the inflation economy, not to mention the black market games that will be playing along side their gratuitous pay platform. NFL is blatantly showing its ugly end game. It will be the NBA/MLB in short order where nobody gives a F. Killing the golden goose is so avoidable.  

This again? People have been saying this for 20 years. The NFL is a business and they sell a product people want. If you don't want it, don't watch it. But don't pretend everyone agrees with you and the NFL will be sorry. 

I can't remember what I paid DTV when I had it, but I'm fairly certain $249 is less than that. 

If they set the price to high pirating will just take over.  There were games on traditional streaming services this year and it was better quality for free on pirating sites.  I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just that it happens.  The NFL can't raise prices indefinitely and not lose market share. 

I'm fairly certain $249 is less than what I paid for DTV and NFLST 5 years ago. But how so better quality? Since you're the Pirate King, I'm sure you're set up to watch games with hardware/software most of us don't bother with. 

But personally I don't think I've ever been able to watch a pirated game without suffering through countless pop ups before landing on the right site, and then suffering through countless feed drops and buffering delays. And since it's so unreliable, forget about having anyone over. 

Considering $400 to $600 monthly bills for cars, insurance, groceries, etc. $50 a month to be able to watch my team, record it, stop and start it, all in 4K, seems like not a lot. 

I've generally been pleased with online streaming of Viking games but missed being able to skip commercials by starting part way through a game.  I am a YT sub and will likely take their early deal for the ticket.  This will allow me to watch/rewatch Viking games whenever I want and any other games I find appealing.

@"StickyBun" said:

It's really getting out of reach with the inflation economy, not to mention the black market games that will be playing along side their gratuitous pay platform. NFL is blatantly showing its ugly end game. It will be the NBA/MLB in short order where nobody gives a F. Killing the golden goose is so avoidable.  

Never happen. If you personally don't like the price, as a consumer you have the right to not pay it. The NFL is BIG entertainment, the number one watched sport in the United States. Google is paying $2 billion a year for the rights for NFL Sunday Ticket. Raging against the NFL machine isn't going to change anything.

I think I’d have a hard time paying extra for football on
TV.  If it got to the point where I had
to pay to watch football, it’d probably fade out of relevance for me like the
other sports did.  I do think I would pay
something like $10 per game to watch if I’m travelling or something.  I think if I was ever to pay for football, I
think they’d have to come up with something more compelling than what we
normally get, like the ability to switch camera angles, choose which audio feed
was calling the game (Network/Radio Home/Radio Away/Spanish/Stadium Announcer/Crowd
Noise/Mic’d Up Players), no commercials (Maybe just have a camera mulling about
the sidelines), maybe have a discord group to hear other fans or a famous team oriented
bar.  I feel like the condensed games are
a more appealing format for me.  If there
was a way to make the live games ad-free (No commercial breaks during the game
where players just stand around) for people that pay and then add in commercial
breaks for free tier viewers, I’d find that pretty compelling, but I’d doubt
they’d do that as people probably would complain if they were getting out of
sync and their fantasy app was updating out of time with their viewing.

@"mgobluevikes" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

It's really getting out of reach with the inflation economy, not to mention the black market games that will be playing along side their gratuitous pay platform. NFL is blatantly showing its ugly end game. It will be the NBA/MLB in short order where nobody gives a F. Killing the golden goose is so avoidable.  

Never happen. If you personally don't like the price, as a consumer you have the right to not pay it. The NFL is BIG entertainment, the number one watched sport in the United States. Google is paying $2 billion a year for the rights for NFL Sunday Ticket. Raging against the NFL machine isn't going to change anything.

Never is a a ballsy prediction. ESPN sinking, Bally sports bankrupt, believe it or not there is a limit to discretionary spending in America. Key demo is trending away from football in general. Where that leads in 20 years who knows. Not predicting the end, but could look very different.