McShay's latest - Viking pick Hooker at 23

Having a Viking Jersey with "Hooker" on the back would make me more than Ok with that pick. B)

Love boat 2.0

@"HappyViking" said: Having a Viking Jersey with "Hooker" on the back would make me more than Ok with that pick. B)

These jersey sales sites are going to have to change their software, “this phrase is not allowed”  Lol… B) 

Hooker is well above Levis on my board. He’s a great pick with a solid floor and huge upside. Levis on the other hand is a huge risk high reward guy. The type I prefer in 2nd or lower round.

@"Havoc1649" said: Hooker is well above Levis on my board. He’s a great pick with a solid floor and huge upside. Levis on the other hand is a huge risk high reward guy. The type I prefer in 2nd or lower round.

I don't see the huge upside with Hooker in the couple games I saw him play.  He reminds me of Geno Smith/Andy Dalton.  Solid arm strength, good short to intermediate accuracy, but his deep ball floats and his ball placement isn't always the best.  He can run a little like Geno and Dalton (in his early days in Cincy).  I just don't see first round franchise QB with Hooker.  He just doesn't have any special traits IMO.

I say this fully acknowledging that I have been wrong on QBs before... I just don't see any special upside with him.

@"Havoc1649" said: Hooker is well above Levis on my board. He’s a great pick with a solid floor and huge upside. Levis on the other hand is a huge risk high reward guy. The type I prefer in 2nd or lower round.

A lot of disagreement about the QBs this year. I still have Levis as my #1 guy. I just think the transition to becoming an NFL QB is going to be easier for him than the others. 

So many watch his '22 tape when he was hurt all year, his protection was shit and he was throwing to freshman receivers. He was much better in '21 with Wan'Dale and a couple drafted offensive linemen. 

Diggs was a former 5-star recruit some of us liked in 2015. But because of a crap QB and some nagging injuries he just didn't have the production of some others and fell to the 5th round. Talk about a gift. Just think too many ignore the WHY in their evaluations. 

Good point MB, there is a TON of disagreement on QB's this year. 

It can make a fan skittish as history is littered with busts, drops and surprise future HOF's at the position. 

you either gotta be smarter than everyone else or luckier. Then you better have a good surround or you'll destroy a kid's chances

Drafting a QB is NOT for the faint of heart. 

@"Wetlander" said:

@"Havoc1649" said: Hooker is well above Levis on my board. He’s a great pick with a solid floor and huge upside. Levis on the other hand is a huge risk high reward guy. The type I prefer in 2nd or lower round.

I don't see the huge upside with Hooker in the couple games I saw him play.  He reminds me of Geno Smith/Andy Dalton.  Solid arm strength, good short to intermediate accuracy, but his deep ball floats and his ball placement isn't always the best.  He can run a little like Geno and Dalton (in his early days in Cincy).  I just don't see first round franchise QB with Hooker.  He just doesn't have any special traits IMO.

I say this fully acknowledging that I have been wrong on QBs before... I just don't see any special upside with him.

@"StickyBun" said:

@"Wetlander" said:

@"Havoc1649" said: Hooker is well above Levis on my board. He’s a great pick with a solid floor and huge upside. Levis on the other hand is a huge risk high reward guy. The type I prefer in 2nd or lower round.

I don't see the huge upside with Hooker in the couple games I saw him play.  He reminds me of Geno Smith/Andy Dalton.  Solid arm strength, good short to intermediate accuracy, but his deep ball floats and his ball placement isn't always the best.  He can run a little like Geno and Dalton (in his early days in Cincy).  I just don't see first round franchise QB with Hooker.  He just doesn't have any special traits IMO.

I say this fully acknowledging that I have been wrong on QBs before... I just don't see any special upside with him.

Geno Smith is exactly the comp I came up with in my layperson review.

If you want to continue to be a perpetual.500 football team with a journeyman level quarterback, then overdrafting Hendon Hooker and moving off of Kirko is your ticket to that reality.

@"comet52" said: If you want to continue to be a perpetual.500 football team with a journeyman level quarterback, then overdrafting Hendon Hooker and moving off of Kirko is your ticket to that reality.

You could be spot on...As was said in other threads, there is not a lot of consensus on the QB's this year. 

Where I have a little bit of peace with it is that KOC is going to have the biggest say. I'm not saying he's perfection as a HC (or even OC), but he has an offensive football lens, is progressive and I liked the evolution of Stafford in their SB year and Kirko this past year too.

So he's got my trust until he doesnt. 

What wouldn't surprise me would be them taking DTR in the mid-rounds. I think that's much more likely than any move up for Levis.