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Derek Carr set to sign with New Orleans Saints, per reportsDerek Carr is apparently headed to the Big Easy.
The Saints are closing in on a four-year deal with the free-agent quarterback, according to multiple reports. 
The Saints were one of three team’s Carr met with this offseason. He also had meetings with the Carolina Panthers and New York Jets.
Carr was originally selected by then-Oakland Raiders in the 2014 NFL draft out of Fresno State. He was with the team for nine seasons, including when the franchise moved to Las Vegas in 2020. He was the Raiders’ primary starting quarterback for all nine of his years with the Silver and Black, earning four Pro Bowl nods, including one in 2022. The 31-year-old QB was released by the Raiders on Feb. 14 after he was benched by coach Josh McDaniels for the final two games of the season.
Carr’s amassed 35,222 passing yards, 217 touchdowns and 99 interceptions in 142 career games. He’s registered a 63-79 record. He holds many of the Raiders’ passing records, including most passing yards and touchdown passes. Carr helped the Raiders reach the playoffs twice (2016 and 2021), though he didn't play in the 2016 wild-card game because of an injury.

In New Orleans, he is reunited with Saints coach Dennis Allen, who was the Raiders' coach in Carr's 2014 rookie season before being fired just four games into the year.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2023/03/06/derek-carr-new-orleans-saints-quarteback-free-agent/11411968002/

Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger! 

#1 · Mar 6, 9:05 AM
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Passed over the Jets and a couple other teams...This might heat up the whispers of Rogers to Jets. 

#2 · Mar 6, 9:14 AM
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Interesting facts:

1. Saints haven't used a 1st or 2nd round pick on a QB since 1971. 
2. Since 2011, only three teams have used more round 1-3 picks on QBs than the Vikings. 

#3 · Mar 6, 9:42 AM
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@"MaroonBells" said: Interesting facts:

1. Saints haven't used a 1st or 2nd round pick on a QB since 1971. 
2. Since 2011, only three teams have used more round 1-3 picks on QBs than the Vikings. 


*sigh*
that is pretty damn depressing,  and yet another blemish on ol RS's resume.

#4 · Mar 6, 9:57 AM
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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"MaroonBells" said: Interesting facts:

1. Saints haven't used a 1st or 2nd round pick on a QB since 1971. 
2. Since 2011, only three teams have used more round 1-3 picks on QBs than the Vikings. 


*sigh*
that is pretty damn depressing,  and yet another blemish on ol RS's resume.


But since the Vikings inception, I doubt there is a team who has spent less draft capital on QB. Since 2011, those were all so helpful.

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@"MaroonBells" said: Interesting facts:

1. Saints haven't used a 1st or 2nd round pick on a QB since 1971. 
2. Since 2011, only three teams have used more round 1-3 picks on QBs than the Vikings. 


I think the key to that stat is including the 3rd round in #2.

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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"MaroonBells" said: Interesting facts:

1. Saints haven't used a 1st or 2nd round pick on a QB since 1971. 
2. Since 2011, only three teams have used more round 1-3 picks on QBs than the Vikings. 


*sigh*
that is pretty damn depressing,  and yet another blemish on ol RS's resume.

Ponder was a bad pick. Bridgewater was bad luck with a freak injury. And Mond was what so many fans have always wanted, take a flier on a potential franchise qb. Beside the desperation Ponder pick, its not a terrible history for a team that seldom picks in the top half of the first round.

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Hurray! May the Saints be cursed with Pox and a terminal case of chronic pruritis ani !

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@"wiviking" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"MaroonBells" said: Interesting facts:

1. Saints haven't used a 1st or 2nd round pick on a QB since 1971. 
2. Since 2011, only three teams have used more round 1-3 picks on QBs than the Vikings. 


*sigh*
that is pretty damn depressing,  and yet another blemish on ol RS's resume.

Ponder was a bad pick. Bridgewater was bad luck with a freak injury. And Mond was what so many fans have always wanted, take a flier on a potential franchise qb. Beside the desperation Ponder pick, its not a terrible history for a team that seldom picks in the top half of the first round.



Ponder is the poster child for "reach" a terribly over-drafted pick.  Dont know what the ceiling on Teddy would have been here in MN with a good surround. Maybe not anything more than journeyman? 

The thing that always killed me about the Vikings and QB's (since Pepp) was just the sheer # of bad ones...They never made the move up to grab somebody they had conviction about. I guess Teddy would have been that guy, but the overall list of QB's is embarrassing and was tough for Vikings fans to deal with. Especially with GB having 30 years of HOF QB'ing between just Favre and Rogers. 

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Looking back I marvel at how Denny brought in Moon, Cunningham, George, McMahon and even drafted Culpepper was a beast for a few seasons.

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@"wiviking" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"MaroonBells" said: Interesting facts:

1. Saints haven't used a 1st or 2nd round pick on a QB since 1971. 
2. Since 2011, only three teams have used more round 1-3 picks on QBs than the Vikings. 


*sigh*
that is pretty damn depressing,  and yet another blemish on ol RS's resume.

Ponder was a bad pick. Bridgewater was bad luck with a freak injury. And Mond was what so many fans have always wanted, take a flier on a potential franchise qb. Beside the desperation Ponder pick, its not a terrible history for a team that seldom picks in the top half of the first round.



RS's issue wasn't QB picks in round 1 or 2, it was the lack of QB picks in round 3-5 that have a chance of competing with picks in round 1 or 2.

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I think the league should keep an eye on Who Shat with their cap situation 

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@"wiviking" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"MaroonBells" said: Interesting facts:

1. Saints haven't used a 1st or 2nd round pick on a QB since 1971. 
2. Since 2011, only three teams have used more round 1-3 picks on QBs than the Vikings. 


*sigh*
that is pretty damn depressing,  and yet another blemish on ol RS's resume.

Ponder was a bad pick. Bridgewater was bad luck with a freak injury. And Mond was what so many fans have always wanted, take a flier on a potential franchise qb. Beside the desperation Ponder pick, its not a terrible history for a team that seldom picks in the top half of the first round.



they never targeted a guy and went after them,  they always stood still and picked through the garbage, even with Teddy,  if they really wanted Teddy,  they would have moved up ahead of the browns and took Teddy,  fact is they have never made a real effort to fix their QB position woes outside of paying out the ass in FA.

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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"wiviking" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"MaroonBells" said: Interesting facts:

1. Saints haven't used a 1st or 2nd round pick on a QB since 1971. 
2. Since 2011, only three teams have used more round 1-3 picks on QBs than the Vikings. 


*sigh*
that is pretty damn depressing,  and yet another blemish on ol RS's resume.

Ponder was a bad pick. Bridgewater was bad luck with a freak injury. And Mond was what so many fans have always wanted, take a flier on a potential franchise qb. Beside the desperation Ponder pick, its not a terrible history for a team that seldom picks in the top half of the first round.



they never targeted a guy and went after them,  they always stood still and picked through the garbage, even with Teddy,  if they really wanted Teddy,  they would have moved up ahead of the browns and took Teddy,  fact is they have never made a real effort to fix their QB position woes outside of paying out the ass in FA.


I wanted them to dump Daunte and take Aaron Rodgers.  Passed on him twice.  I knew he was going to end up in Green Bay... just a ringing alarm in my gut that had me screaming at the t.v. on that draft day years ago.   Just take him and trade him to someone if you love Daunte, but for god's sake keep him out of Green Bay.   It's not like Troy Williamson and Erasmus James were ever worth a hill of manure.   When you draft that bad you deserve years of mediocrity.

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$37.5/yr average on Carrs 4yr deal. 

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@"AGRforever" said: $37.5/yr average on Carrs 4yr deal. 
That's kind of an ouch or am I outdated on my assessment?
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@"AGRforever" said: $37.5/yr average on Carrs 4yr deal. 
Considering Danial Jones is asking for $45 mil per year I would say Carr is a bargain.  Would rather have him than Jones. 
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This is all on Woody owner of the Jets wanting Rogers and not Carr...

I think they had Carr in that building twice and either couldn't get it done, or made it clear he was their 2nd choice. 

Jets have a great young team except @ QB and they may very well end up with no Rogers either. 

Fools...

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@"PurplePastor" said:
@"AGRforever" said: $37.5/yr average on Carrs 4yr deal. 
That's kind of an ouch or am I outdated on my assessment?
It puts him behind Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Kyler Murray, Deshaun Watson, and Dak who all signed recent extensions.  It's just in front of Cousins in terms of AAV.

Like Greylock said, it's probably a bargain when considering the average annual salary and guarantees compared to some of the other young QBs and formerly elite vets who signed extensions in the past year.

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@"PurplePastor" said:
@"AGRforever" said: $37.5/yr average on Carrs 4yr deal. 
That's kind of an ouch or am I outdated on my assessment?
the devil is in the details,  otherwise its not a bad deal at face value just based on average,  as long as its not all guaranteed,  the team has trade rights, or some other ways the team can move on sooner if its not working out.
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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"PurplePastor" said:
@"AGRforever" said: $37.5/yr average on Carrs 4yr deal. 
That's kind of an ouch or am I outdated on my assessment?
the devil is in the details,  otherwise its not a bad deal at face value just based on average,  as long as its not all guaranteed,  the team has trade rights, or some other ways the team can move on sooner if its not working out.
I read 100 Million guaranteed with a no trade clause. Carr got a really good deal imo.
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