Commanders release Wentz..

Washington has started 12 different QBs since Cousins. 

@"supafreak84" said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35748616/commanders-cut-qb-carson-wentz-one-season

Any interest here as a reclamation, backup signing..?

Agree with Jimmy, Nope

Honestly no idea how Rivera still has a job so I'm not surprised he wasn't the key to reclamating Wentz. Likely optics since Snyder is always in hot water. But I digress... Wentz was bad in Indy also. He might just be cooked. I'm surprised by it all as he seemed to have so much potential years ago but it happens. Would personally rather re-sign Mullens, which is saying a lot.

@"Greylock" said: Agree with Jimmy, Nope

@"supafreak84" said:

@"Greylock" said: Agree with Jimmy, Nope

Oh come on. Former MVP Candidate, local kid, still only 30, who just two seasons ago threw 27 TD's with a 63% completion percentage for a Colt's team lacking weapons in the receiving game. I'd think as far as upside backup QB's he'd be ideal if we needed someone to step in and play winning football. I know it's a far cry from the Sean Mannion's of the world that we employ to wash Kirk's jock strap, but at some point we need to bring in an upside backup with Kirk potentially nearing the end. 

https://www.inforum.com/sports/commanders-release-former-bison-qb-carson-wentzFARGO — The Washington Commanders released quarterback Carson Wentz
on Monday, the latest career detour for the former North Dakota State
star once pegged to be an NFL sure thing.
By releasing Wentz the Commanders will save $26.17 million against their salary cap in 2023.
Wentz was the No. 2 overall draft pick in 2016 by the Philadelphia Eagles, the team for which he played five seasons.
The
move by the Commanders, which was expected because of Wentz's hefty
contract, means the quarterback will play for his fourth team in four
seasons in 2023. Wentz was traded from Philadelphia to Indianapolis in
2021 before being dealt to Washington in 2022.
Wentz signed a
four-year, $128 million contract extension with the Eagles in 2019,
added to his original rookie contract of four years, $26.7 million.
Wentz will not be paid for the final two years of his extension, which
were not guaranteed.
According to the sports salary tracking website Spotrac, Wentz made $106,070,684 in his first seven years in the NFL.Wentz
graduated high school from Bismarck Century and was at NDSU from
2011-15. He started the 2014 and 2015 seasons, leading the Bison to a
pair of Football Championship Subdivision national titles. He missed
eight games in 2015 after injuring his throwing wrist midway through the
season, but returned for the national championship against Jacksonville
(Ala.) State and was named the game's most valuable player.
There
is no guarantee Wentz will be a starter no matter where he lands. It is
a steep fall for a quarterback who was so coveted by the Eagles they
traded five draft picks to the Cleveland Browns, including two
first-rounders, to acquire the second pick in the 2016 draft.
Indianapolis gave the Eagles a third-round draft pick and a conditional
second-rounder to acquire Wentz in 2021. The Commanders dealt 2022
second- and third-round picks and a conditional 2023 third-round pick to
land Wentz from the Colts.
Wentz is now a free agent, open to negotiate with any NFL team.
Wentz
was viewed as the franchise savior in Philadelphia, which believed he
was the missing piece on a good team. Wentz started all 16 games as a
rookie and showed flashes of what the Eagles expected.
He was
terrific for much of 2017 and was likely to win the NFL MVP award before
he was derailed by a knee injury late that season. Wentz started 13
games, leading the Eagles to an 11-2 record, and threw for nearly 3,300
yards with 33 touchdowns and seven interceptions.
He was replaced by Nick Foles, who led the Eagles to their first Super Bowl victory that season.
Wentz's career was never the same.
His one year in Indianapolis was deemed a failure despite having a
statistically good season, in part because Wentz butted heads with team
management by refusing to get the COVID-19 vaccine. He was dealt to
Washington in a trade criticized by some because the Commanders gave up
a hefty price. He struggled in D.C., making just seven starts after
injuring his finger, and lost the starting job to Sam Howell.
In seven NFL seasons Wentz has played in 93 games, throwing for 22,129 yards with 151 touchdowns and 66 interceptions.

draft a kid early,   give him all the #2 reps in the offseason and camp, as well as playing time chances in the later half of the season to see if he has anything.  I dont want to see him thrown to the wolves early,  or the season put in his hands, but there are ample opportunities to get a young QB reps through out the season.  i dont see anything coming from another washed up back up QB.  

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"Greylock" said: Agree with Jimmy, Nope

Oh come on. Former MVP Candidate, local kid, still only 30, who just two seasons ago threw 27 TD's with a 63% completion percentage for a Colt's team lacking weapons in the receiving game. I'd think as far as upside backup QB's he'd be ideal if we needed someone to step in and play winning football. I know it's a far cry from the Sean Mannion's of the world that we employ to wash Kirk's jock strap, but at some point we need to bring in an upside backup with Kirk potentially nearing the end. 

Cousins is a long way from nearing the end, and I don't really see too much upside. However, as a long-term backup to replace Mullens, we could do a lot worse.

No way I want to see Wentz with the Vikes

@"supafreak84" said:

@"Greylock" said: Agree with Jimmy, Nope

Oh come on. Former MVP Candidate, local kid, still only 30, who just two seasons ago threw 27 TD's with a 63% completion percentage for a Colt's team lacking weapons in the receiving game. I'd think as far as upside backup QB's he'd be ideal if we needed someone to step in and play winning football. I know it's a far cry from the Sean Mannion's of the world that we employ to wash Kirk's jock strap, but at some point we need to bring in an upside backup with Kirk potentially nearing the end. 

@"Greylock" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"Greylock" said: Agree with Jimmy, Nope

Oh come on. Former MVP Candidate, local kid, still only 30, who just two seasons ago threw 27 TD's with a 63% completion percentage for a Colt's team lacking weapons in the receiving game. I'd think as far as upside backup QB's he'd be ideal if we needed someone to step in and play winning football. I know it's a far cry from the Sean Mannion's of the world that we employ to wash Kirk's jock strap, but at some point we need to bring in an upside backup with Kirk potentially nearing the end. 

Why do some think just because its a local kid they should be signed by the Vikings,  Fuck the local kid angle, you think Kirk is a statute in the pocket then yea then lets sign the mobile Wentz.

@"supafreak84" said:

@"Greylock" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"Greylock" said: Agree with Jimmy, Nope

Oh come on. Former MVP Candidate, local kid, still only 30, who just two seasons ago threw 27 TD's with a 63% completion percentage for a Colt's team lacking weapons in the receiving game. I'd think as far as upside backup QB's he'd be ideal if we needed someone to step in and play winning football. I know it's a far cry from the Sean Mannion's of the world that we employ to wash Kirk's jock strap, but at some point we need to bring in an upside backup with Kirk potentially nearing the end. 

Why do some think just because its a local kid they should be signed by the Vikings,  Fuck the local kid angle, you think Kirk is a statute in the pocket then yea then lets sign the mobile Wentz.

My argument would be it's not an offense designed for a running or scrambling QB, it's an offense designed for a quarterback to stand in the pocket and deliver to JJ, Hock, and our other weapons down the field. In that case Wentz is exactly what we would be looking for in a backup to Cousins because you aren't having to change the offense and there is continuity there. 

@"supafreak84" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"Greylock" said: Agree with Jimmy, Nope

Oh come on. Former MVP Candidate, local kid, still only 30, who just two seasons ago threw 27 TD's with a 63% completion percentage for a Colt's team lacking weapons in the receiving game. I'd think as far as upside backup QB's he'd be ideal if we needed someone to step in and play winning football. I know it's a far cry from the Sean Mannion's of the world that we employ to wash Kirk's jock strap, but at some point we need to bring in an upside backup with Kirk potentially nearing the end. 

Cousins is a long way from nearing the end, and I don't really see too much upside. However, as a long-term backup to replace Mullens, we could do a lot worse.

I still contend that we don't know when Kirk's end will be, but he will be 35 prior to the season starting and history tells us the fall off for most QB's not named Brady happens between 34 and 38. Kirk's been durable, but he has also taken a lot of shots behind our porous offensive line over the years that has left me shocked he's been able to drag himself off the dirt and continue. Will he be able to continue that going forward, the chances are not in our favor. It's time for the Vikings to do more at the backup position than simply find a jock strap washer to hold a clipboard. Those days need to be over under the current circumstances

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"Greylock" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"Greylock" said: Agree with Jimmy, Nope

Oh come on. Former MVP Candidate, local kid, still only 30, who just two seasons ago threw 27 TD's with a 63% completion percentage for a Colt's team lacking weapons in the receiving game. I'd think as far as upside backup QB's he'd be ideal if we needed someone to step in and play winning football. I know it's a far cry from the Sean Mannion's of the world that we employ to wash Kirk's jock strap, but at some point we need to bring in an upside backup with Kirk potentially nearing the end. 

Why do some think just because its a local kid they should be signed by the Vikings,  Fuck the local kid angle, you think Kirk is a statute in the pocket then yea then lets sign the mobile Wentz.

My argument would be it's not an offense designed for a running or scrambling QB, it's an offense designed for a quarterback to stand in the pocket and deliver to JJ, Hock, and our other weapons down the field. In that case Wentz is exactly what we would be looking for in a backup to Cousins because you aren't having to change the offense and there is continuity there. 

If this offense doesn't allow for a QB to move around,  then start looking for a new offense,  I dont know what O wouldn't benefit from a QB that can move in the pocket to keep defenses guessing as well as being able to extend plays and take yardage when there.

@"supafreak84" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"Greylock" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"Greylock" said: Agree with Jimmy, Nope

Oh come on. Former MVP Candidate, local kid, still only 30, who just two seasons ago threw 27 TD's with a 63% completion percentage for a Colt's team lacking weapons in the receiving game. I'd think as far as upside backup QB's he'd be ideal if we needed someone to step in and play winning football. I know it's a far cry from the Sean Mannion's of the world that we employ to wash Kirk's jock strap, but at some point we need to bring in an upside backup with Kirk potentially nearing the end. 

Why do some think just because its a local kid they should be signed by the Vikings,  Fuck the local kid angle, you think Kirk is a statute in the pocket then yea then lets sign the mobile Wentz.

My argument would be it's not an offense designed for a running or scrambling QB, it's an offense designed for a quarterback to stand in the pocket and deliver to JJ, Hock, and our other weapons down the field. In that case Wentz is exactly what we would be looking for in a backup to Cousins because you aren't having to change the offense and there is continuity there. 

If this offense doesn't allow for a QB to move around,  then start looking for a new offense,  I dont know what O wouldn't benefit from a QB that can move in the pocket to keep defenses guessing as well as being able to extend plays and take yardage when there.

This offense is not currently constructed like that because Cousins is not a running threat and it's designed to feature his strengths, which is throwing from the pocket. Just saying that wouldn't change with Wentz as your backup and we could run the same playbook. 

A backup to Cousins plays what, maybe less than 5 snaps a season?  Wentz won't come cheap, and he's simply not that good to pay 10 mil or more per season and be on the bench.  I don't think Kwesi is drooling for Carson now that he's a FA.

Just sayin' in 2018 when Eagles sent Foles packing after he won the Superbowl in order to hand the job to Wentz 

And now 5 years later the Eagles QB is neither of them. and both Foles amd Wentz are looking for jobs.

The NFL has a funny way in how it works out.