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Another Loss In the Football Family

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It’s all just a coincidence, though…. Pile this on top of the high school players death and another college football player two weeks ago.  Oh and the girls soccer player and tennis player.  But, nothing to see here.  I hope big Pharma goes down in flames, but of course the govt gave them immunity and billions of dollars, so they’ll be okay.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2023/02/20/unlv-football-player-ryan-keeler-dies/11310285002/

#1 · Feb 21, 6:34 AM
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why a new thread for each one?  maybe pull up your existing thread and make a compilation thread so that those that arent in agreement with you can see in one place the amount of information coming to the surface on this matter?

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@"JimmyinSD" said: why a new thread for each one?  maybe pull up your existing thread and make a compilation thread so that those that arent in agreement with you can see in one place the amount of information coming to the surface on this matter?
Hard to even get it to post on my I-Pad with the site configuration.  It really doesn't matter.  We lost a 20 yr. old and 12 yr. old football player in the last week alone, but we'll hide it in a forum that nobody every participates in because the snowflakes rule and they might be offended because it's more likely than not that they were wrong about this from the onset.  Had to love Hamlin's careful wording of his illness as well.  
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@"Waterboy" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said: why a new thread for each one?  maybe pull up your existing thread and make a compilation thread so that those that arent in agreement with you can see in one place the amount of information coming to the surface on this matter?
Hard to even get it to post on my I-Pad with the site configuration.  It really doesn't matter.  We lost a 20 yr. old and 12 yr. old football player in the last week alone, but we'll hide it in a forum that nobody every participates in because the snowflakes rule and they might be offended because it's more likely than not that they were wrong about this from the onset.  Had to love Hamlin's careful wording of his illness as well.  
if it didnt matter, you wouldnt keep posting it,  and you are never going to get people to admit you changed their mind,  but if they take the time to read it at all,  regardless of where its posted,  then you have at least given them some information that they otherwise likely wouldnt have stumbled across on their version of the news.   up to you if you keep posting or not, I just thought it would be more impactful for someone coming across these for the first time if all the questionable deaths were compiled in one thread.
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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Waterboy" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said: why a new thread for each one?  maybe pull up your existing thread and make a compilation thread so that those that arent in agreement with you can see in one place the amount of information coming to the surface on this matter?
Hard to even get it to post on my I-Pad with the site configuration.  It really doesn't matter.  We lost a 20 yr. old and 12 yr. old football player in the last week alone, but we'll hide it in a forum that nobody every participates in because the snowflakes rule and they might be offended because it's more likely than not that they were wrong about this from the onset.  Had to love Hamlin's careful wording of his illness as well.  
if it didnt matter, you wouldnt keep posting it,  and you are never going to get people to admit you changed their mind,  but if they take the time to read it at all,  regardless of where its posted,  then you have at least given them some information that they otherwise likely wouldnt have stumbled across on their version of the news.   up to you if you keep posting or not, I just thought it would be more impactful for someone coming across these for the first time if all the questionable deaths were compiled in one thread.
It would gain traction if the press, the govt, and the citizens had the guts to discuss it openly.  I post it when it pisses me off, but it's like I said, you want me to fight it with one hand tied behind my back, and quite honestly I don't have the time to fight the fight in a sparsely read forum.  Those that want to read and see it will.  Most won't.
#5 · Feb 22, 11:25 AM
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@"Waterboy" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Waterboy" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said: why a new thread for each one?  maybe pull up your existing thread and make a compilation thread so that those that arent in agreement with you can see in one place the amount of information coming to the surface on this matter?
Hard to even get it to post on my I-Pad with the site configuration.  It really doesn't matter.  We lost a 20 yr. old and 12 yr. old football player in the last week alone, but we'll hide it in a forum that nobody every participates in because the snowflakes rule and they might be offended because it's more likely than not that they were wrong about this from the onset.  Had to love Hamlin's careful wording of his illness as well.  
if it didnt matter, you wouldnt keep posting it,  and you are never going to get people to admit you changed their mind,  but if they take the time to read it at all,  regardless of where its posted,  then you have at least given them some information that they otherwise likely wouldnt have stumbled across on their version of the news.   up to you if you keep posting or not, I just thought it would be more impactful for someone coming across these for the first time if all the questionable deaths were compiled in one thread.
It would gain traction if the press, the govt, and the citizens had the guts to discuss it openly.  I post it when it pisses me off, but it's like I said, you want me to fight it with one hand tied behind my back, and quite honestly I don't have the time to fight the fight in a sparsely read forum.  Those that want to read and see it will.  Most won't.
its in the forum that allows for those types of discussions,  if we allowed everything to fly in the football ( mostly ) forum then you wouldnt have anybody left there to read it either.  those types of open forums last about a year tops and they simply turn into a trash filled echo chamber.  we have far to much diversity of back grounds and opinions,  with the added feature of relative anonymity to maintain a wide open forum.   as this site was founded as a place for Vikings fans first,  football fans second,  and that is what brought  us all together,  that is the topic that is going to guide the direction of this site,  plenty of other places out there to get your opinions trashed or flat out ignored.

personally I take the silence on the subject as a sign that maybe some are taking a closer look and while they wouldnt ever likely openly admit it... they are re-evaluating the information and their positions,  any sane, reasonable person would would be.

#6 · Feb 22, 12:20 PM
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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Waterboy" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Waterboy" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said: why a new thread for each one?  maybe pull up your existing thread and make a compilation thread so that those that arent in agreement with you can see in one place the amount of information coming to the surface on this matter?
Hard to even get it to post on my I-Pad with the site configuration.  It really doesn't matter.  We lost a 20 yr. old and 12 yr. old football player in the last week alone, but we'll hide it in a forum that nobody every participates in because the snowflakes rule and they might be offended because it's more likely than not that they were wrong about this from the onset.  Had to love Hamlin's careful wording of his illness as well.  
if it didnt matter, you wouldnt keep posting it,  and you are never going to get people to admit you changed their mind,  but if they take the time to read it at all,  regardless of where its posted,  then you have at least given them some information that they otherwise likely wouldnt have stumbled across on their version of the news.   up to you if you keep posting or not, I just thought it would be more impactful for someone coming across these for the first time if all the questionable deaths were compiled in one thread.
It would gain traction if the press, the govt, and the citizens had the guts to discuss it openly.  I post it when it pisses me off, but it's like I said, you want me to fight it with one hand tied behind my back, and quite honestly I don't have the time to fight the fight in a sparsely read forum.  Those that want to read and see it will.  Most won't.
its in the forum that allows for those types of discussions,  if we allowed everything to fly in the football ( mostly ) forum then you wouldnt have anybody left there to read it either.  those types of open forums last about a year tops and they simply turn into a trash filled echo chamber.  we have far to much diversity of back grounds and opinions,  with the added feature of relative anonymity to maintain a wide open forum.   as this site was founded as a place for Vikings fans first,  football fans second,  and that is what brought  us all together,  that is the topic that is going to guide the direction of this site,  plenty of other places out there to get your opinions trashed or flat out ignored.

personally I take the silence on the subject as a sign that maybe some are taking a closer look and while they wouldnt ever likely openly admit it... they are re-evaluating the information and their positions,  any sane, reasonable person would would be.



I'm always caught in between seeing your point and pissed that people can't discuss topics they disagree on.  I do see the types of crazed and outraged responses from the other side (which is where the problem lies, imho), and do agree they'd implode.   Even with the totally "rigged" way that the govt and social media colluded to tell one side of the story, the truth is out, and only those trying to look the other way don't see a huge problem in our society.  People used to like to call the "Orange Man" fascist, it's quite obvious who the ones are lying and trying to ultimately take complete control of our every day lives to their own benefit.

#7 · Feb 24, 8:19 AM
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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Waterboy" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Waterboy" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said: why a new thread for each one?  maybe pull up your existing thread and make a compilation thread so that those that arent in agreement with you can see in one place the amount of information coming to the surface on this matter?
Hard to even get it to post on my I-Pad with the site configuration.  It really doesn't matter.  We lost a 20 yr. old and 12 yr. old football player in the last week alone, but we'll hide it in a forum that nobody every participates in because the snowflakes rule and they might be offended because it's more likely than not that they were wrong about this from the onset.  Had to love Hamlin's careful wording of his illness as well.  
if it didnt matter, you wouldnt keep posting it,  and you are never going to get people to admit you changed their mind,  but if they take the time to read it at all,  regardless of where its posted,  then you have at least given them some information that they otherwise likely wouldnt have stumbled across on their version of the news.   up to you if you keep posting or not, I just thought it would be more impactful for someone coming across these for the first time if all the questionable deaths were compiled in one thread.
It would gain traction if the press, the govt, and the citizens had the guts to discuss it openly.  I post it when it pisses me off, but it's like I said, you want me to fight it with one hand tied behind my back, and quite honestly I don't have the time to fight the fight in a sparsely read forum.  Those that want to read and see it will.  Most won't.
personally I take the silence on the subject as a sign that maybe some are taking a closer look and while they wouldnt ever likely openly admit it... they are re-evaluating the information and their positions,  any sane, reasonable person would would be.
LMAO.....I can tell you, this is definitely NOT the situation. The silence is basically for decorum of the board. Why engage with nutbag theories that some of you want to have an 'intelligent discussion' over? 'Vaccines killing young athletes'....for fuck's sake. Its lunacy. I mean, do you want a civil board or not? Everyone that wanted to chime into this thread has civilly. But because one poster is propping it up and hardly anyone is engaging, its now because 'we're taking a closer look'? IT'S STUPID and hence the non-engagement.
#8 · Feb 24, 8:40 AM
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@"StickyBun" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Waterboy" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Waterboy" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said: why a new thread for each one?  maybe pull up your existing thread and make a compilation thread so that those that arent in agreement with you can see in one place the amount of information coming to the surface on this matter?
Hard to even get it to post on my I-Pad with the site configuration.  It really doesn't matter.  We lost a 20 yr. old and 12 yr. old football player in the last week alone, but we'll hide it in a forum that nobody every participates in because the snowflakes rule and they might be offended because it's more likely than not that they were wrong about this from the onset.  Had to love Hamlin's careful wording of his illness as well.  
if it didnt matter, you wouldnt keep posting it,  and you are never going to get people to admit you changed their mind,  but if they take the time to read it at all,  regardless of where its posted,  then you have at least given them some information that they otherwise likely wouldnt have stumbled across on their version of the news.   up to you if you keep posting or not, I just thought it would be more impactful for someone coming across these for the first time if all the questionable deaths were compiled in one thread.
It would gain traction if the press, the govt, and the citizens had the guts to discuss it openly.  I post it when it pisses me off, but it's like I said, you want me to fight it with one hand tied behind my back, and quite honestly I don't have the time to fight the fight in a sparsely read forum.  Those that want to read and see it will.  Most won't.
personally I take the silence on the subject as a sign that maybe some are taking a closer look and while they wouldnt ever likely openly admit it... they are re-evaluating the information and their positions,  any sane, reasonable person would would be.
LMAO.....I can tell you, this is definitely NOT the situation. The silence is basically for decorum of the board. Why engage with nutbag theories that some of you want to have an 'intelligent discussion' over? 'Vaccines killing young athletes'....for fuck's sake. Its lunacy. I mean, do you want a civil board or not? Everyone that wanted to chime into this thread has civilly. But because one poster is propping it up and hardly anyone is engaging, its now because 'we're taking a closer look'? IT'S STUPID and hence the non-engagement.
why are we seeing more young athletes dying recently?  I have seen studies showing that the cases of under 30 heart issues has increased,  is that because of post covid issues,  or is it, as was suggested possible at the time of vaccinations, that the technology may have adverse affects on developing hearts.  if you want to believe what you were told so be it,  but there is something going on,  discussing the potential causes is not stupid.   whats sad is if the shoe would have been on the other foot,  if it had been conservatives railing to push this needle into arms, and the results were the same,  I have my doubts you be showing as much "civility".

I dont know which way I believe, I would like to think that those in charge of this shit would have had everyone's best health interest in mind,  but the track record of both Fauci and big pharma suggest otherwise.

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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Waterboy" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Waterboy" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said: why a new thread for each one?  maybe pull up your existing thread and make a compilation thread so that those that arent in agreement with you can see in one place the amount of information coming to the surface on this matter?
Hard to even get it to post on my I-Pad with the site configuration.  It really doesn't matter.  We lost a 20 yr. old and 12 yr. old football player in the last week alone, but we'll hide it in a forum that nobody every participates in because the snowflakes rule and they might be offended because it's more likely than not that they were wrong about this from the onset.  Had to love Hamlin's careful wording of his illness as well.  
if it didnt matter, you wouldnt keep posting it,  and you are never going to get people to admit you changed their mind,  but if they take the time to read it at all,  regardless of where its posted,  then you have at least given them some information that they otherwise likely wouldnt have stumbled across on their version of the news.   up to you if you keep posting or not, I just thought it would be more impactful for someone coming across these for the first time if all the questionable deaths were compiled in one thread.
It would gain traction if the press, the govt, and the citizens had the guts to discuss it openly.  I post it when it pisses me off, but it's like I said, you want me to fight it with one hand tied behind my back, and quite honestly I don't have the time to fight the fight in a sparsely read forum.  Those that want to read and see it will.  Most won't.
personally I take the silence on the subject as a sign that maybe some are taking a closer look and while they wouldnt ever likely openly admit it... they are re-evaluating the information and their positions,  any sane, reasonable person would would be.
LMAO.....I can tell you, this is definitely NOT the situation. The silence is basically for decorum of the board. Why engage with nutbag theories that some of you want to have an 'intelligent discussion' over? 'Vaccines killing young athletes'....for fuck's sake. Its lunacy. I mean, do you want a civil board or not? Everyone that wanted to chime into this thread has civilly. But because one poster is propping it up and hardly anyone is engaging, its now because 'we're taking a closer look'? IT'S STUPID and hence the non-engagement.
why are we seeing more young athletes dying recently?  I have seen studies showing that the cases of under 30 heart issues has increased,  is that because of post covid issues,  or is it, as was suggested possible at the time of vaccinations, that the technology may have adverse affects on developing hearts.  if you want to believe what you were told so be it,  but there is something going on,  discussing the potential causes is not stupid.   whats sad is if the shoe would have been on the other foot,  if it had been conservatives railing to push this needle into arms, and the results were the same,  I have my doubts you be showing as much "civility".

I dont know which way I believe, I would like to think that those in charge of this shit would have had everyone's best health interest in mind,  but the track record of both Fauci and big pharma suggest otherwise.



Blindness is bliss, though.  Evidence of collusion between Big Pharma, the media, and the govt. is undeniable, but those that were most invested in telling everyone how much they knew can’t accept the true science, only what they believed blindly.  Lol.  

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It's all so crazy how what the whack job conspiracy people were saying was happening at the time.  Luckily, we had the "sheeple" to keep us on the straight and narrow.  You know the ones who believed in the "science". 

Group Aimed to Punish Promoters of COVID Lab Leak Theory | Newsmax.com 

But today they came out with the disclaimer that they did it with low confidence. lol   Wonder if that was asked to be added? lol

Covid-19: US Energy Department assesses virus likely resulted from lab leak, furthering US intel divide | CNN Politics

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@"StickyBun" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Waterboy" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Waterboy" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said: why a new thread for each one?  maybe pull up your existing thread and make a compilation thread so that those that arent in agreement with you can see in one place the amount of information coming to the surface on this matter?
Hard to even get it to post on my I-Pad with the site configuration.  It really doesn't matter.  We lost a 20 yr. old and 12 yr. old football player in the last week alone, but we'll hide it in a forum that nobody every participates in because the snowflakes rule and they might be offended because it's more likely than not that they were wrong about this from the onset.  Had to love Hamlin's careful wording of his illness as well.  
if it didnt matter, you wouldnt keep posting it,  and you are never going to get people to admit you changed their mind,  but if they take the time to read it at all,  regardless of where its posted,  then you have at least given them some information that they otherwise likely wouldnt have stumbled across on their version of the news.   up to you if you keep posting or not, I just thought it would be more impactful for someone coming across these for the first time if all the questionable deaths were compiled in one thread.
It would gain traction if the press, the govt, and the citizens had the guts to discuss it openly.  I post it when it pisses me off, but it's like I said, you want me to fight it with one hand tied behind my back, and quite honestly I don't have the time to fight the fight in a sparsely read forum.  Those that want to read and see it will.  Most won't.
personally I take the silence on the subject as a sign that maybe some are taking a closer look and while they wouldnt ever likely openly admit it... they are re-evaluating the information and their positions,  any sane, reasonable person would would be.
LMAO.....I can tell you, this is definitely NOT the situation. The silence is basically for decorum of the board. Why engage with nutbag theories that some of you want to have an 'intelligent discussion' over? 'Vaccines killing young athletes'....for fuck's sake. Its lunacy. I mean, do you want a civil board or not? Everyone that wanted to chime into this thread has civilly. But because one poster is propping it up and hardly anyone is engaging, its now because 'we're taking a closer look'? IT'S STUPID and hence the non-engagement.
You're claiming board "decorum"?  You lose your Motherf..king mind every time you get in a discussion.  Has nothing to do with decorum.  It has everything to do with the fact that your argument has been shown to not stand the test of time well as the MSM, Social Platforms, Govt, and Big Pharma alliance starts to be undermined via the Twitter findings, studies coming back on lack of vaccine effectiveness, and the spiraling all-death rate.  Doesn't make for a convenient conversation for the "sheeple" that blindly followed these clowns.
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I guess science isn’t science enough if the data continues to defy the official “narrative.”

https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-health-watch/study-calls-mask-mandates-question-putting-health-experts-defense

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Tin foil hats everyone?  So, if Donald Trump said it, it had to be false and thus debunked, kinda like Hunter's dealings in Ukraine, China, and Russia, along with his laptop.  All things the media wouldn't touch that turned out to be 100% true.  They elected a bed shitter for the White House and go into hiding.  But, I guess it's more about them being "civil" and above such awful conversations on a message board.

Credibility crisis: CNN boss ordered staff not to chase down COVID lab leak theory as pandemic unfolded | Fox News

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@"Waterboy" said: Tin foil hats everyone?  So, if Donald Trump said it, it had to be false and thus debunked, kinda like Hunter's dealings in Ukraine, China, and Russia, along with his laptop.  All things the media wouldn't touch that turned out to be 100% true.  They elected a bed shitter for the White House and go into hiding.  But, I guess it's more about them being "civil" and above such awful conversations on a message board.

Credibility crisis: CNN boss ordered staff not to chase down COVID lab leak theory as pandemic unfolded | Fox News


you know how this goes, right?   we leave it on the main page,  two groups emerge and shit all over each other,  no sane or neutral people stick around in the thread anyway,  so you gain absolutely nothing.  you didnt change and minds,  you didnt present new information to anybody that would possibly get anything from it,  and most likely the thread gets locked anyway.  The mods can give you a little more latitude over here as long as you are presenting the information in a non offensive manner.   honestly crying about not being able to post this political/medical material on the football page is just going to turn more people off from viewing this thread.

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