John Michael Schmitz
Would you get rid of Bradbury and draft Schmitz at #23?
I love the kid, he's tough and hard-nosed.
But no, too many other needs at 23 and too few picks this year.
Looking at the teams that played over the weekend, they all had a pass rush that made me envious. #23 has to be a pass rusher unless a QB that they like falls.
Draft tomorrow, it should be a corner. But given the youth at the position, I'd much rather fill that need with a veteran, leaving LB or DL as higher priorities. Right now I'm leaning toward the fatty in Waco. And only if we add a CB and at least 1 of the above in free agency should this be an offensive player. And even then, it should be a WR. I can almost guarantee this pick will not be an OL.
Regarding the OL, I try to get Bradbury on a 2-year deal and bring back the same five. If someone gives GB first-tier money, then I'd just have Schlottmann, Reed and Sokol fight it out. If he doesn't retire, one option is Jason Kelce on another one-year deal. He's 35 and is due $30M in guarantees if he's on the roster in June. So he won't be. At least not on the same deal.
Nope,
We have so many holes to fill I am looking at what is there, but am likely looking to trade down and pick up multiple day 2 picks. If there is a stud sitting there that fills a position of need ( DL or LB ) then yes, but otherwise I am going to be look like I am riding with MB, vets in FA for DBs, and rolling with our younger cheaper guys already on the roster. ( I dont really see much upside in bringing GB back, I didnt see the growth that others say they saw )
If we trade down, then Schmitz is definitely an option with the additional picks we will get. He is not a first round talent. He is the top rated Center but should be available in the late 2nd, early 3rd. I would love to see him replace Bradbury. I would love to see any competent center replace Bradbury. Watching Jones completely destroy the Bengals OLine last night was just another reminder of how important having a Center who can actually hold their ground as a pass blocker is, and should be one of our biggest priorities. The Chiefs interior OLine was incredible at keeping Mahomes clean and upright all night.
@"TBro" said: If we trade down, then Schmitz is definitely an option with the additional picks we will get. He is not a first round talent. He is the top rated Center but should be available in the late 2nd, early 3rd. I would love to see him replace Bradbury. I would love to see any competent center replace Bradbury. Watching Jones completely destroy the Bengals OLine last night was just another reminder of how important having a Center who can actually hold their ground as a pass blocker is, and should be one of our biggest priorities. The Chiefs interior OLine was incredible at keeping Mahomes clean and upright all night.We're all going to be envious watching Kelcey play at the SB too.
@"purplefaithful" said:I will be curios as to see what Spags does with Clark.... damn I love watching that kid play.... a big athletic DT is about the closest thing to a key to success a person can ask for...that and a future HOF QB on a rookie deal and you pretty much might as well just leave the trophy case door unlocked.@"TBro" said: If we trade down, then Schmitz is definitely an option with the additional picks we will get. He is not a first round talent. He is the top rated Center but should be available in the late 2nd, early 3rd. I would love to see him replace Bradbury. I would love to see any competent center replace Bradbury. Watching Jones completely destroy the Bengals OLine last night was just another reminder of how important having a Center who can actually hold their ground as a pass blocker is, and should be one of our biggest priorities. The Chiefs interior OLine was incredible at keeping Mahomes clean and upright all night. We're all going to be envious watching Kelcey play at the SB too.
@"JimmyinSD" said:Now granted we switched to the 3/4 this past year, but is it safe to say the Vikings have had a difficult time filling that DT spot since Shariff Floyd went lame?@"purplefaithful" said:I will be curios as to see what Spags does with Clark.... damn I love watching that kid play.... a big athletic DT is about the closest thing to a key to success a person can ask for...that and a future HOF QB on a rookie deal and you pretty much might as well just leave the trophy case door unlocked.@"TBro" said: If we trade down, then Schmitz is definitely an option with the additional picks we will get. He is not a first round talent. He is the top rated Center but should be available in the late 2nd, early 3rd. I would love to see him replace Bradbury. I would love to see any competent center replace Bradbury. Watching Jones completely destroy the Bengals OLine last night was just another reminder of how important having a Center who can actually hold their ground as a pass blocker is, and should be one of our biggest priorities. The Chiefs interior OLine was incredible at keeping Mahomes clean and upright all night. We're all going to be envious watching Kelcey play at the SB too.Double the hurt when the real heritage of the Vikings is Defense and DL.
@"purplefaithful" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:Now granted we switched to the 3/4 this past year, but is it safe to say the Vikings have had a difficult time filling that DT spot since Shariff Floyd went lame?@"purplefaithful" said:I will be curios as to see what Spags does with Clark.... damn I love watching that kid play.... a big athletic DT is about the closest thing to a key to success a person can ask for...that and a future HOF QB on a rookie deal and you pretty much might as well just leave the trophy case door unlocked.@"TBro" said: If we trade down, then Schmitz is definitely an option with the additional picks we will get. He is not a first round talent. He is the top rated Center but should be available in the late 2nd, early 3rd. I would love to see him replace Bradbury. I would love to see any competent center replace Bradbury. Watching Jones completely destroy the Bengals OLine last night was just another reminder of how important having a Center who can actually hold their ground as a pass blocker is, and should be one of our biggest priorities. The Chiefs interior OLine was incredible at keeping Mahomes clean and upright all night. We're all going to be envious watching Kelcey play at the SB too.Double the hurt when the real heritage of the Vikings is Defense and DL.
but have they really tried to draft a top notch DT? you want to talk about curses... imagine if they had gone any other position in 13 besides DT and would have been still picking as early as they did in 14..... does anybody think they dont take Donald in 14? lets talk about the curse of the Floyd.
@"JimmyinSD" said:@"purplefaithful" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:Now granted we switched to the 3/4 this past year, but is it safe to say the Vikings have had a difficult time filling that DT spot since Shariff Floyd went lame?@"purplefaithful" said:I will be curios as to see what Spags does with Clark.... damn I love watching that kid play.... a big athletic DT is about the closest thing to a key to success a person can ask for...that and a future HOF QB on a rookie deal and you pretty much might as well just leave the trophy case door unlocked.@"TBro" said: If we trade down, then Schmitz is definitely an option with the additional picks we will get. He is not a first round talent. He is the top rated Center but should be available in the late 2nd, early 3rd. I would love to see him replace Bradbury. I would love to see any competent center replace Bradbury. Watching Jones completely destroy the Bengals OLine last night was just another reminder of how important having a Center who can actually hold their ground as a pass blocker is, and should be one of our biggest priorities. The Chiefs interior OLine was incredible at keeping Mahomes clean and upright all night. We're all going to be envious watching Kelcey play at the SB too.Double the hurt when the real heritage of the Vikings is Defense and DL.
but have they really tried to draft a top notch DT? you want to talk about curses... imagine if they had gone any other position in 13 besides DT and would have been still picking as early as they did in 14..... does anybody think they dont take Donald in 14? lets talk about the curse of the Floyd.
go look at the last time the Vikings drafted a DL with their first pick.You'll be stunned.
@"purplefaithful" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:@"purplefaithful" said:@"JimmyinSD" said:Now granted we switched to the 3/4 this past year, but is it safe to say the Vikings have had a difficult time filling that DT spot since Shariff Floyd went lame?@"purplefaithful" said:I will be curios as to see what Spags does with Clark.... damn I love watching that kid play.... a big athletic DT is about the closest thing to a key to success a person can ask for...that and a future HOF QB on a rookie deal and you pretty much might as well just leave the trophy case door unlocked.@"TBro" said: If we trade down, then Schmitz is definitely an option with the additional picks we will get. He is not a first round talent. He is the top rated Center but should be available in the late 2nd, early 3rd. I would love to see him replace Bradbury. I would love to see any competent center replace Bradbury. Watching Jones completely destroy the Bengals OLine last night was just another reminder of how important having a Center who can actually hold their ground as a pass blocker is, and should be one of our biggest priorities. The Chiefs interior OLine was incredible at keeping Mahomes clean and upright all night. We're all going to be envious watching Kelcey play at the SB too.Double the hurt when the real heritage of the Vikings is Defense and DL.
but have they really tried to draft a top notch DT? you want to talk about curses... imagine if they had gone any other position in 13 besides DT and would have been still picking as early as they did in 14..... does anybody think they dont take Donald in 14? lets talk about the curse of the Floyd.
go look at the last time the Vikings drafted a DL with their first pick.You'll be stunned.
We had Jordan Davis sitting there for us at 13 but decided a lopsided trade down with the Lions(in their favor) was a better option. SMH.
JMS getting a lot of Mobile buzz....
Potential center target for the #Vikings John Michael Schmitz getting ALL the #SeniorBowl love from @PFF
— Luke Inman (@Luke_Spinman) February 2, 2023
"He's a DAWG!" @TampaBayTre
"He's the top center.. not even close" @PFF_Mike pic.twitter.com/9etXKaLDLB
@"MaroonBells" said: JMS getting a lot of Mobile buzz....Potential center target for the #Vikings John Michael Schmitz getting ALL the #SeniorBowl love from @PFF
— Luke Inman (@Luke_Spinman) February 2, 2023
"He's a DAWG!" @TampaBayTre
"He's the top center.. not even close" @PFF_Mike pic.twitter.com/9etXKaLDLB
He's powerful and nasty. Only going to get stronger with NFL supervision. I'd have zero problem popping our 1st round pick on this guy.
....”His name is my name too..
”Whenever I go out,
the people always shout..
John Michael jingleheimer Schmidtz”
EVERYBODY !
Every offseason for as long as Kirk has been the QB here, the Vikings have "needed" to fix the OL. Maybe it's not the line that's the problem...
Ok yes, it partially is, but it's also our QB and our play-calling. Kirk's deadly accurate from a clean pocket and a champ at standing in and making the throws, but he also holds the ball longer than most any other QB in the league, isn't mobile, and doesn't vary the depth of his dropbacks all that much. In other words, he's not doing the OL many favors. Part of that is on the plays KO designed this past season too.
I would much rather see the pick be DL, LB, WR, or QB than investing more early picks in the OL because quite honestly we've tried that-- a lot recently-- and the results have been mediocre. Whereas if we could find a field-stretcher WR or a disruptor in the front 7 I think that would really go a long ways to improving the overall team. JMO.
@"StickyBun" said:@"MaroonBells" said: JMS getting a lot of Mobile buzz....Potential center target for the #Vikings John Michael Schmitz getting ALL the #SeniorBowl love from @PFF
— Luke Inman (@Luke_Spinman) February 2, 2023
"He's a DAWG!" @TampaBayTre
"He's the top center.. not even close" @PFF_Mike pic.twitter.com/9etXKaLDLB
He's powerful and nasty. Only going to get stronger with NFL supervision. I'd have zero problem popping our 1st round pick on this guy.
I would be all over JMS if we traded down. I like him in the 2nd if we could get a pick back for trading out of 23. The question is, how far can we drop and still get him? I never thought Ragnow would go as high as he did in 2018 so who knows if JMS gets pushed up to the end of the 1st. Outside of O'Neill, that is definitely a draft I would like to see a do-over.
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