Jalen Ramsey

There's plenty of money and trade assets to be found if you're willing to make sacrifices. Rams have been desperately looking for a back since Gurley, and it ain't Akers, so I could see interest in Cook. 

Yeah, I guess I’d have to see an overall strategy to try and
figure out if this makes sense.  I think that
if you can get Ramsey for a low amount of draft capital it makes sense in the
same way that the Hockenson trade made sense, but I think the more you hit that
expensive veteran button instead of drafting a cheap rookie, the more you shorten
your window.  That said I could see us playing
out 2-3 years with Cousins and then hitting a harder reset button.  I think Ramsey swapped in for Thielen or
Smith for similar money is a clear upgrade, but you’d probably be trying to
renegotiate them to a lower number so not a 1:1.

Ramsey's contract is a 25 million dollar cap hit next season with a potential out in 2024. Otherwise, he is under contract in 2024 with an almost 27 million dollar cap hit, and an almost 23 million dollar cap hit in 2025. For a team struggling with cap issues and a quarterback situation to address, I don't know how we'd swing it. Dalvin Cooks cap hit on his contract is only in the mid teens as far as a cap hit. 

The Rams really went all in on their super bowl and mortgaged the future. It's easy to see why McVay has been flirting with "retirement" the last couple offseasons 

Given our youth at the position, I definitely favor adding a veteran corner over using our 1st rounder on one. One free agent to consider is Pittsburgh's Cameron Sutton. Would cost nothing in trade, 27 years old, market is estimated at 7M per, 72 PFF grade, has played inside and out. And, if we can land Brian Flores, Sutton would come with knowledge of the defense. 

Only problem is Pittsburgh will probably resign him. I've seen him on two lists of players teams "can't afford to lose." 

@"MaroonBells" said: Given our youth at the position, I definitely favor adding a veteran corner over using our 1st rounder on one. One free agent to consider is Pittsburgh's Cameron Sutton. Would cost nothing in trade, 27 years old, market is estimated at 7M per, 72 PFF grade, has played inside and out. And, if we can land Brian Flores, Sutton would come with knowledge of the defense. 

Only problem is Pittsburgh will probably resign him. I've seen him on two lists of players teams "can't afford to lose." 

Our defense is old, slow and expensive.  I know how to fix it!!!   Bring in someone old, slow and expensive!!!

@"AGRforever" said: Our defense is old, slow and expensive.  I know how to fix it!!!   Bring in someone old, slow and expensive!!!

@"greediron" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: Given our youth at the position, I definitely favor adding a veteran corner over using our 1st rounder on one. One free agent to consider is Pittsburgh's Cameron Sutton. Would cost nothing in trade, 27 years old, market is estimated at 7M per, 72 PFF grade, has played inside and out. And, if we can land Brian Flores, Sutton would come with knowledge of the defense. 

Only problem is Pittsburgh will probably resign him. I've seen him on two lists of players teams "can't afford to lose." 

Agreed, I think we need a vet in that room, but not sure the most expensive CB on the market is the one we need.

@"MaroonBells" said: Given our youth at the position, I definitely favor adding a veteran corner over using our 1st rounder on one. One free agent to consider is Pittsburgh's Cameron Sutton. Would cost nothing in trade, 27 years old, market is estimated at 7M per, 72 PFF grade, has played inside and out. And, if we can land Brian Flores, Sutton would come with knowledge of the defense. 

Only problem is Pittsburgh will probably resign him. I've seen him on two lists of players teams "can't afford to lose." 

@"AGRforever" said: Our defense is old, slow and expensive.  I know how to fix it!!!   Bring in someone old, slow and expensive!!!

Not to suggest trading for Ramsey is likely but the Vikings would only be trading for his $17M base salary which could be restructured. So although you would be pushing money into the future they could add him for a $6M cap hit or so in 2023. After that its debatable how they'd make that work, likely with an extension. Although the cost would likely be higher if the Rams wanted to move up to #23 using their 2nd round pick #36 that could be an interesting deal.

Similar to the Hockenson deal in some ways where the Vikings are just moving around the board but picking up players in the process. That trade on the chart is worth a high 3rd round pick. 

Ramsey is bitchy and fragile. 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hYmNdfO2-w

I'm still of the opinion that if we are clearing cap space to become players in free agency or the trade market, we need to build this thing from the interior-out. Daron Payne would be the most impactful player we could get this offseason and I'd do whatever was necessary to acquire him. 

@"supafreak84" said: Ramsey's contract is a 25 million dollar cap hit next season with a potential out in 2024. Otherwise, he is under contract in 2024 with an almost 27 million dollar cap hit, and an almost 23 million dollar cap hit in 2025. For a team struggling with cap issues and a quarterback situation to address, I don't know how we'd swing it. Dalvin Cooks cap hit on his contract is only in the mid teens as far as a cap hit. 

The Rams really went all in on their super bowl and mortgaged the future. It's easy to see why McVay has been flirting with "retirement" the last couple offseasons 

The rams would be on the hook for the prorated bonus portions of the cap hits.

@"medaille" said:

@"supafreak84" said: Ramsey's contract is a 25 million dollar cap hit next season with a potential out in 2024. Otherwise, he is under contract in 2024 with an almost 27 million dollar cap hit, and an almost 23 million dollar cap hit in 2025. For a team struggling with cap issues and a quarterback situation to address, I don't know how we'd swing it. Dalvin Cooks cap hit on his contract is only in the mid teens as far as a cap hit. 

The Rams really went all in on their super bowl and mortgaged the future. It's easy to see why McVay has been flirting with "retirement" the last couple offseasons 

Ramsey's contract for the team that traded for him, as far as I can tell, would be:
2023:  $17M
2024:  $18.5M
2025:  $19.5M

The rams would be on the hook for the prorated bonus portions of the cap hits.

@"supafreak84" said: I'm still of the opinion that if we are clearing cap space to become players in free agency or the trade market, we need to build this thing from the interior-out. Daron Payne would be the most impactful player we could get this offseason and I'd do whatever was necessary to acquire him. 

@"AGRforever" said: Our defense is old, slow and expensive.  I know how to fix it!!!   Bring in someone old, slow and expensive!!!

@"Vanguard83" said:

@"AGRforever" said: Our defense is old, slow and expensive.  I know how to fix it!!!   Bring in someone old, slow and expensive!!!

....and an a-hole

@"Geoff Nichols" said: Not to suggest trading for Ramsey is likely but the Vikings would only be trading for his $17M base salary which could be restructured. So although you would be pushing money into the future they could add him for a $6M cap hit or so in 2023. After that its debatable how they'd make that work, likely with an extension. Although the cost would likely be higher if the Rams wanted to move up to #23 using their 2nd round pick #36 that could be an interesting deal.

Similar to the Hockenson deal in some ways where the Vikings are just moving around the board but picking up players in the process. That trade on the chart is worth a high 3rd round pick. 

with all the cap-clearing since this post, i’d love to see the vikes trade this yrs first for Ramsey. 

worried about trading firsts, for a proven all pro in his prime?  dont be. 
https://sports.yahoo.com/rams-jalen-ramsey-trade-with-jaguars-looking-like-one-of-most-lopsided-deals-ever-130043870.html

@"savannahskol" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said: Not to suggest trading for Ramsey is likely but the Vikings would only be trading for his $17M base salary which could be restructured. So although you would be pushing money into the future they could add him for a $6M cap hit or so in 2023. After that its debatable how they'd make that work, likely with an extension. Although the cost would likely be higher if the Rams wanted to move up to #23 using their 2nd round pick #36 that could be an interesting deal.

Similar to the Hockenson deal in some ways where the Vikings are just moving around the board but picking up players in the process. That trade on the chart is worth a high 3rd round pick. 

Flores’  first significant move (as dolphins hc) was signing a CB for 5 yrs/81 mil — byron jones.  he also coached up CB x howard to probowl. 

with all the cap-clearing since this post, i’d love to see the vikes trade this yrs first for Ramsey. 

worried about trading firsts, for a proven all pro in his prime?  dont be. 
https://sports.yahoo.com/rams-jalen-ramsey-trade-with-jaguars-looking-like-one-of-most-lopsided-deals-ever-130043870.html