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Vikings request interview with Brian Flores. 

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#1 · Jan 21, 8:17 PM
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I'm a fan. 

#2 · Jan 22, 3:17 AM
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Based on what I've learned since the interview was announced, he'd be the guy I'd want. I'm not going to get my hopes up though. Apparently, he's the leading candidate to get the HC job in Arizona.

Cover 0 and cover 1 guy. Frequent and well disguised blitzes. Mostly a 3-4 base guy, but as is the trend, he's not married to it:  “I’m unable to say I’m 3-4 or 4-3. I’m not wired that way. You have to be scheme versatile. We want to do that....It could be different every week. I think in this game, you have to be multiple. If you sit in one thing, the coaches are too good.”

If we're able to get him, maybe he can bring Cameron Sutton with him. 

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He’d need some serious upgrades on D to make it work. I’m hoping the Cardinals are using him as a Rooney rule

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@"AGRforever" said: He’d need some serious upgrades on D to make it work. I’m hoping the Cardinals are using him as a Rooney rule
Funny you say that because one of the other coaches that is part of the Discrimination lawsuit with Flores is Steve Wilks who is naming the Cardinals as being discriminatory against him. 
#5 · Jan 22, 7:14 AM
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Two things pop out for me;

This would feel like a short time hire 
There are some potential flags with him culturally

There are a lot of good names out there for DC

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Flores makes the relationship that Zimmer had with Speilman and Cousins look like a Hallmark movie.  Before you advocate for this guy, look into why he was really let go by the Dolphins, it was 100x worse than what Zimmer was accused of.

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maybe we need an ahole?  _onatell was a passive pos. 

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Belichick tree guys all fail at HC gigs because they act like dicks.  The dick side of Belichick rubs off but the rest doesn't.

I don't know if hardass DC would fit with the new purple kumbaya culture.  Would they fire him if he refused to say "hi" in the hallway?

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@"comet52" said: Belichick tree guys all fail at HC gigs because they act like dicks.  The dick side of Belichick rubs off but the rest doesn't.

I don't know if hardass DC would fit with the new purple kumbaya culture.  Would they fire him if he refused to say "hi" in the hallway?


Yeah, I have no idea what the lickeroom dynamics would look like. Part of me thinks a good cop bad cop thing might work. 

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The thing that every team now has to consider with Flores is, if he is not good and at some point you have to fire him, is that something you want to worry about (especially with the Vikings and a white ownership and white head coach) on the heels of his lawsuit? It's almost like bringing Kaepernick on your team in that you have to worry about the repercussions if he doesn't work out and you need to move on. I would not want to worry about that if I was KOC and to me it was very telling that Belickick, who routinely brings back his former coaches who have been fired, did not elect to bring Flores back after getting fired in Miami. I think he might do a good job but the risk if he doesn't wouldn't be worth it. Hard pass

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@"supafreak84" said: The thing that every team now has to consider with Flores is, if he is not good and at some point you have to fire him, is that something you want to worry about (especially with the Vikings and a white ownership and white head coach) on the heels of his lawsuit? It's almost like bringing Kaepernick on your team in that you have to worry about the repercussions if he doesn't work out and you need to move on. I would not want to worry about that if I was KOC and to me it was very telling that Belickick, who routinely brings back his former coaches who have been fired, did not elect to bring Flores back after getting fired in Miami. I think he might do a good job but the risk if he doesn't wouldn't be worth it. Hard pass
Black GM is the get out jail free card if you want to play the BvW game.  
#12 · Jan 22, 7:21 PM
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I would be happy with Flores.

Keep in mind the following:

  • Dolphin's owner asked him to tank.  I don't doubt that they tried to bury him when he refused to do so.  
  • KOC and Flores overlapped at the Patriots for a year.
  • Yes, Belichick didn't bring him back.  Keep in mind, Flores brought the very private Belichick into the lawsuit because of Belichick's text messages erroneously sent to Flores.
Yes, I don't doubt that Flores and Tua dynamic was toxic and it was largely Flores' fault.  Certainly that will be a big part of any interview.  If KOC is satisfied with that part of the interview, then I will not complain if hired.

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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"supafreak84" said: The thing that every team now has to consider with Flores is, if he is not good and at some point you have to fire him, is that something you want to worry about (especially with the Vikings and a white ownership and white head coach) on the heels of his lawsuit? It's almost like bringing Kaepernick on your team in that you have to worry about the repercussions if he doesn't work out and you need to move on. I would not want to worry about that if I was KOC and to me it was very telling that Belickick, who routinely brings back his former coaches who have been fired, did not elect to bring Flores back after getting fired in Miami. I think he might do a good job but the risk if he doesn't wouldn't be worth it. Hard pass
Black GM is the get out jail free card if you want to play the BvW game.  
I thought about that, but the Dolphins GM was black when they fired Flores and he sued them....so guess not
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As a head coach I'd be wary of him with the QB but I'm fine with him as a DC.  

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@"supafreak84" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"supafreak84" said: The thing that every team now has to consider with Flores is, if he is not good and at some point you have to fire him, is that something you want to worry about (especially with the Vikings and a white ownership and white head coach) on the heels of his lawsuit? It's almost like bringing Kaepernick on your team in that you have to worry about the repercussions if he doesn't work out and you need to move on. I would not want to worry about that if I was KOC and to me it was very telling that Belickick, who routinely brings back his former coaches who have been fired, did not elect to bring Flores back after getting fired in Miami. I think he might do a good job but the risk if he doesn't wouldn't be worth it. Hard pass
Black GM is the get out jail free card if you want to play the BvW game.  
I thought about that, but the Dolphins GM was black when they fired Flores and he sued them....so guess not
Anybody can sue for anything,   but the fact that he would be hired and fired by a black man ( if it were to happen) certainly controls both the optics and narrative.  Not to mention he loses most any credibility if he plays that card again with little or no proof.  I just dont see it as a story that gets any traction if it were to come to that.
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PA seems to think that the AZ job is Flores for the taking,  I am trying to imagine kyler murray walking around with a play station sticking out of his ass after he told coach he wasnt ready for the practice because he was up all night waiting in line for COD 27 to be released.

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@"AGRforever" said: maybe we need an ahole?  _onatell was a passive pos. 
Zim, Flores?  It seems to work on defense.  As a DC he doesn't have to talk to the QB.
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