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O'Neill and Schlottman to IR, roster moves

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#1 · Jan 3, 2:03 PM
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Mancz is interesting. 30 years old, been around a while, plenty of starting experience (32 games), PFF grades are up and down, but had a season where he finished in the mid 70s. 

#2 · Jan 3, 2:13 PM
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So....Does this mean O'Neil is not on the playoff roster?

He's done for the year?

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@"purplefaithful" said: So....Does this mean O'Neil is not on the playoff roster?

He's done for the year?


Only eligible if they make it to the Super Bowl 

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@"1VikesFan" said:
@"purplefaithful" said: So....Does this mean O'Neil is not on the playoff roster?

He's done for the year?


Only eligible if they make it to the Super Bowl 


I think that's a little wishful thinking. Not the Super Bowl, although that is too (LOL), but the tealeaves seem to suggest O'Neill's is a long term injury. I'll just be happy if he's good to go for training camp. 

#5 · Jan 3, 2:49 PM
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Ick.  I'd have hoped it was only for a couple of games.

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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"1VikesFan" said:
@"purplefaithful" said: So....Does this mean O'Neil is not on the playoff roster?

He's done for the year?


Only eligible if they make it to the Super Bowl 


I think that's a little wishful thinking. Not the Super Bowl, although that is too (LOL), but the tealeaves seem to suggest O'Neill's is a long term injury. I'll just be happy if he's good to go for training camp. 


I actually haven't heard the severity of his injury

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Well... frick. Hopefully Bradbury is ready to go soon. Since he's not on IR I'd think he should be back soon, but teams don't always know these things. Was nice to see Kirk scampering a little in the GB game (a rare bright spot from Sunday), but we know that's not his game. O'Neill is a huge loss.

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@"pattersaur" said: Well... frick. Hopefully Bradbury is ready to go soon. Since he's not on IR I'd think he should be back soon, but teams don't always know these things. Was nice to see Kirk scampering a little in the GB game (a rare bright spot from Sunday), but we know that's not his game. O'Neill is a huge loss.


would it be against the nflpa rules to make KC wear a shock collar device and when its time for him to move,  he gets a little vibration,  when its time for him to get the fuck outta dodge he gets lit up?

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@"1VikesFan" said:
@"MaroonBells" said:
@"1VikesFan" said:
@"purplefaithful" said: So....Does this mean O'Neil is not on the playoff roster?

He's done for the year?


Only eligible if they make it to the Super Bowl 


I think that's a little wishful thinking. Not the Super Bowl, although that is too (LOL), but the tealeaves seem to suggest O'Neill's is a long term injury. I'll just be happy if he's good to go for training camp. 


I actually haven't heard the severity of his injury


Me either...

Lower leg injury is what I think they said?

Hell, that could be bone, tendon, muscle or all of the above. 

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This isn’t good, not that we thought anything different was going to happen after the early reports. 
O line played well enough to get the job done when healthy. It struggled when Bradbury and CD were out. Now without Bradbury, Schlottman, and O’Neil down I dont have much faith in them winning even one playoff game. 
The Vikings went a while without injuries early in the season, I guess they all catch up in the end. 
We can never have nice things! 

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Annual tradition: Offensive line problems a threat to Vikings' success

The Vikings, in learning from the past and trying to correct their course, have spent a lot of draft capital on the offensive line in recent years.
After taking just one offensive lineman in the first three rounds of the draft from 2010-16, the Vikings have picked one in the top three rounds of every subsequent draft: Pat Elflein (2017, third round), Brian O'Neill (2018, second round), Garrett Bradbury (2019, first round), Ezra Cleveland (2020, second round), Christian Darrisaw (2021, first round) and Ed Ingram (2022, second round).
Those last five picks made up the Vikings' starting offensive line for the first half of this charmed season, seemingly solidifying a longtime area of concern.
And then it started to fall apart.
Darrisaw, the left tackle, has missed time with two separate concussions and hasn't looked as dominant since returning to the lineup. Bradbury, the center, is out for now with a back injury. Ingram, the right guard, has been healthy but inconsistent. And the biggest blow came with O'Neill's calf injury against the Packers, which landed the right tackle on injured reserve Tuesday.
There's a chance the line could rally in two weeks when the Vikings open the playoffs. But there's also the chance that this might be another in a long line of Vikings seasons significantly impacted in a negative way by O-line struggles, which I talked about on Tuesday's Daily Delivery podcast.
Here's the brief but painful history:
2016: A decimated offensive line was a huge culprit in the Vikings' collapsing from a 5-0 start to an 8-8 finish.
2017: A remade line behind tackles Riley Reiff and Mike Remmers helped the Vikings to a 13-3 season. But the line was overwhelmed in a 38-7 NFC title game loss to the Eagles, including a game-changing pick-six on which Case Keenum's arm was hit as he threw.
2018: The line was overrun in a Week 17 loss to the Bears, with the Vikings mustering just 164 yards of offense in a defeat that kept them from making the playoffs.
2019: With the line playing a major role, the Vikings gained just 139 yards in a late-season loss to the Packers that eliminated any chance at the NFC North title and then gained just 147 yards in a 27-10 division round playoff loss to the 49ers.
2020 and 2021: There was blame to go around for two consecutive seasons that fell short of the playoffs, but the No. 26 offensive line in 2020 (per Pro Football Focus) and No. 23 in 2021 played a big role.
2022: TBA, but the pattern is clear and O'Neill's absence is particularly concerning.
https://www.startribune.com/vikings-offensive-line-brian-oneill-garrett-bradbury/600240480/

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Cousins has been sacked 46 times this season, the most in his NFL career.

The Running game has declined since last year.

This Oline is average.

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@"medaille" said: Ick.  I'd have hoped it was only for a couple of games.
It is only for a couple games lol. 2 maybe 3 more games this season?
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@"Riphawkins" said: This isn’t good, not that we thought anything different was going to happen after the early reports.  O line played well enough to get the job done when healthy. It struggled when Bradbury and CD were out. Now without Bradbury, Schlottman, and O’Neil down I dont have much faith in them winning even one playoff game.  The Vikings went a while without injuries early in the season, I guess they all catch up in the end.  We can never have nice things! 
Yeah, it could get really ugly.  After a Cinderella ride all season we could loose the last two games of the season and no matter who we face in the playoffs a beat up O Line that cant run the ball or barely protect Cousins could get really ugly.  Imagine us playing the Packers at home and we cant even avenge ourselves.
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Its over.  End this thing quick and get better draft picks.  Need more talent on this team if you want to win a SB.

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@"Mattyman" said: Cousins has been sacked 46 times this season, the most in his NFL career.

The Running game has declined since last year.

This Oline is average.


Its the IOL that is still a problem and has been FOREVER. Any QB hates pressure up the middle the most too.  They have to hope Ingram improves and I dont know what they'll do at C next year. 

I agree the running game has declined and Cook just doesnt have the same explosiveness and imo isnt getting used enough. 

After all these decades of being a fan, I can see it now - we'll put up about 142 yds of offense against a good D in the post-season and lose. All while KC gets sacked 5+ times. 

Sorry to be a downer this am, its all too predictable. 

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Combine all this with the rookie learning curve of Ingram, it's a lot of adjustment on the fly and just before playoffs. Hoping the best for Bradbury. Wishing O'Neill and Schlottman successful recoveries. 

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@"Vikergirl" said: https://twitter.com/SeifertESPN/status/1610702472737325056?t=tQc_yGEa1004mGAEuxvBOA&s=19

Achilles!? Ugggggh

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