Vikings open at -3.0 vs Jets

Who cares about Vegas? Seriously they have to just play the games. I don't care about talking heads or rankings, the important thing is to get the job done. I kind of like the idea of being the underdog and using that to their advantage.

Can't blame Vegas. Too many close games. Just win, baby.

Jets will be a tough out. Well coached. Defense is top notch.

If you think it's a soft line, bet into it.  That's the point, not complaining about it in a forum.

@"PurpleCrush" said: Jets will be a tough out. Well coached. Defense is top notch.

Yea looks like the Jets will be starting Mike White at QB.  Last year he lit up the Bengals starting after Wilson went down.  He also started 2 losses and threw around 5 Int's and looked more like a rookie QB.  He has been in the league since 2018 but only game time was last year with the Jets.  So, he is not a rookie but is a young starter who makes mistakes.  We are going to have to capitalize on those mistakes and bring/get pressure, Jets OL is not very good so we should be able to do so.  The difference this year with the Jets is they have much better skill players then they did last year including Conklin at TE.  

We will get a looksee at Mike White vs the Bears tomorrow in limited action he looked like a gunslinger (also mistakes) when I watched him last year, but I only saw his good game vs Cincy.  

@"minny65" said:

@"PurpleCrush" said: Jets will be a tough out. Well coached. Defense is top notch.

Yea looks like the Jets will be starting Mike White at QB.  Last year he lit up the Bengals starting after Wilson went down.  He also started 2 losses and threw around 5 Int's and looked more like a rookie QB.  He has been in the league since 2018 but only game time was last year with the Jets.  So, he is not a rookie but is a young starter who makes mistakes.  We are going to have to capitalize on those mistakes and bring/get pressure, Jets OL is not very good so we should be able to do so.  The difference this year with the Jets is they have much better skill players then they did last year including Conklin at TE.  

We will get a looksee at Mike White vs the Bears tomorrow in limited action he looked like a gunslinger (also mistakes) when I watched him last year, but I only saw his good game vs Cincy.  

I know some will be howling in here next week if White lights it up against Minnesota, but he threw for 315 yards and 3 TDs yesterday. Its not like it would only be Minnesota that a 'backup' went crazy on. Wilson was in there because he was a high draft pick, not because he was better than White. 

Jets D will keep them in the game for a while,  our house,  our fans, lots of noise,  our D better have a plan to utilize that advantage against an inexperienced QB and make sure to not let white have a repeat performance...although I suspect he will.

@"JimmyinSD" said: Jets D will keep them in the game for a while,  our house,  our fans, lots of noise,  our D better have a plan to utilize that advantage against an inexperienced QB and make sure to not let white have a repeat performance...although I suspect he will.

White played great vs Cincy last year but after he had 2 clunkers....

White played great against the Bears last week but after had a ___________?

Did game film help those teams last year shut down White and force errors or was it just better defenses?  We have the tape to review his tendencies so maybe we can slow him down plus we get Tomlinson and Evans back which helps as well.   

@"minny65" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said: Jets D will keep them in the game for a while,  our house,  our fans, lots of noise,  our D better have a plan to utilize that advantage against an inexperienced QB and make sure to not let white have a repeat performance...although I suspect he will.

White played great vs Cincy last year but after he had 2 clunkers....

White played great against the Bears last week but after had a ___________?

Did game film help those teams last year shut down White and force errors or was it just better defenses?  We have the tape to review his tendencies so maybe we can slow him down plus we get Tomlinson and Evans back which helps as well.   

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"minny65" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said: Jets D will keep them in the game for a while,  our house,  our fans, lots of noise,  our D better have a plan to utilize that advantage against an inexperienced QB and make sure to not let white have a repeat performance...although I suspect he will.

White played great vs Cincy last year but after he had 2 clunkers....

White played great against the Bears last week but after had a ___________?

Did game film help those teams last year shut down White and force errors or was it just better defenses?  We have the tape to review his tendencies so maybe we can slow him down plus we get Tomlinson and Evans back which helps as well.   

Definitely better off getting him this week than last week. Doesn't mean he won't have success against us though.

Getting Evans back to help with Garrett Wilson is big. But getting Tomlinson back to pressure inside is even bigger. Should help Hunter and Z quite a bit. 

On both sides of the ball, this could be a similar game plan to the Patriots. On offense, help with Brandel, shorter drops, get the ball out quick. The Jets don't blitz much so that's good, but they get good pressure without it. With Sauce presumably on JJ, this would be a good time to target the other receivers more. 

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"minny65" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said: Jets D will keep them in the game for a while,  our house,  our fans, lots of noise,  our D better have a plan to utilize that advantage against an inexperienced QB and make sure to not let white have a repeat performance...although I suspect he will.

White played great vs Cincy last year but after he had 2 clunkers....

White played great against the Bears last week but after had a ___________?

Did game film help those teams last year shut down White and force errors or was it just better defenses?  We have the tape to review his tendencies so maybe we can slow him down plus we get Tomlinson and Evans back which helps as well.   

Definitely better off getting him this week than last week. Doesn't mean he won't have success against us though.

Getting Evans back to help with Garrett Wilson is big. But getting Tomlinson back to pressure inside is even bigger. Should help Hunter and Z quite a bit. 

On both sides of the ball, this could be a similar game plan to the Patriots. On offense, help with Brandel, shorter drops, get the ball out quick. The Jets don't blitz much so that's good, but they get good pressure without it. With Sauce presumably on JJ, this would be a good time to target the other receivers more. 

It will be interesting to see how they account for Quinnen Williams. The Cowboys simulated a lot of interior pressure and won off stunts. Clearly that didn't go well. Patriots threatened the edges more and the Vikings O-line handled that well. Not sure how they will want to account for Williams since the last time we saw this setup against Washington, Kirk almost got killed.  

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"minny65" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said: Jets D will keep them in the game for a while,  our house,  our fans, lots of noise,  our D better have a plan to utilize that advantage against an inexperienced QB and make sure to not let white have a repeat performance...although I suspect he will.

White played great vs Cincy last year but after he had 2 clunkers....

White played great against the Bears last week but after had a ___________?

Did game film help those teams last year shut down White and force errors or was it just better defenses?  We have the tape to review his tendencies so maybe we can slow him down plus we get Tomlinson and Evans back which helps as well.   

Definitely better off getting him this week than last week. Doesn't mean he won't have success against us though.

Getting Evans back to help with Garrett Wilson is big. But getting Tomlinson back to pressure inside is even bigger. Should help Hunter and Z quite a bit. 

On both sides of the ball, this could be a similar game plan to the Patriots. On offense, help with Brandel, shorter drops, get the ball out quick. The Jets don't blitz much so that's good, but they get good pressure without it. With Sauce presumably on JJ, this would be a good time to target the other receivers more. 

It will be interesting to see how they account for Quinnen Williams. The Cowboys simulated a lot of interior pressure and won off stunts. Clearly that didn't go well. Patriots threatened the edges more and the Vikings O-line handled that well. Not sure how they will want to account for Williams since the last time we saw this setup against Washington, Kirk almost got killed.  

They need to keep Kirko out of traction, I mean chains, I mean traction!

I dont trust this IOL a bit yet. They are easily fooled and manhandled at times.