Interesting read on the Russ Wilson-Seattle Seahawks breakup

IMO, Wilson has always been a me-first guy.  This article seems to confirm that.  His desire to be the MVP, to be mentioned with the greats comes off wrong.  That desire isn't wrong, but putting it above winning, above the team is.  

And his strength has been escaping the pocket and making plays with his legs.  Not just scrambling, but getting outside where he can see and make throws.  Once that goes, his value declines.  He isn't big enough to be a proto pocket passer, especially without a strong interior line.  Seattle traded their stud center Unger to NO for that fancy TE (forget his name) and it was a bad move.  Their ability to run and to open throwing lanes inside went away.  

So Seattle hasn't given Wilson a great team to work with, but he also complains too much and focuses on his glory rather than the team.

But, that all makes me happy, I hate the seachickens and their bandwagon fans.

@"greediron" said: IMO, Wilson has always been a me-first guy.  This article seems to confirm that.  His desire to be the MVP, to be mentioned with the greats comes off wrong.  That desire isn't wrong, but putting it above winning, above the team is.  

And his strength has been escaping the pocket and making plays with his legs.  Not just scrambling, but getting outside where he can see and make throws.  Once that goes, his value declines.  He isn't big enough to be a proto pocket passer, especially without a strong interior line.  Seattle traded their stud center Unger to NO for that fancy TE (forget his name) and it was a bad move.  Their ability to run and to open throwing lanes inside went away.  

So Seattle hasn't given Wilson a great team to work with, but he also complains too much and focuses on his glory rather than the team.

But, that all makes me happy, I hate the seachickens and their bandwagon fans.

At the bold: Jimmy Graham

@"mblack" said:

@"greediron" said: IMO, Wilson has always been a me-first guy.  This article seems to confirm that.  His desire to be the MVP, to be mentioned with the greats comes off wrong.  That desire isn't wrong, but putting it above winning, above the team is.  

And his strength has been escaping the pocket and making plays with his legs.  Not just scrambling, but getting outside where he can see and make throws.  Once that goes, his value declines.  He isn't big enough to be a proto pocket passer, especially without a strong interior line.  Seattle traded their stud center Unger to NO for that fancy TE (forget his name) and it was a bad move.  Their ability to run and to open throwing lanes inside went away.  

So Seattle hasn't given Wilson a great team to work with, but he also complains too much and focuses on his glory rather than the team.

But, that all makes me happy, I hate the seachickens and their bandwagon fans.

At the bold: Jimmy Graham

@"mblack" said:

@"greediron" said: IMO, Wilson has always been a me-first guy.  This article seems to confirm that.  His desire to be the MVP, to be mentioned with the greats comes off wrong.  That desire isn't wrong, but putting it above winning, above the team is.  

And his strength has been escaping the pocket and making plays with his legs.  Not just scrambling, but getting outside where he can see and make throws.  Once that goes, his value declines.  He isn't big enough to be a proto pocket passer, especially without a strong interior line.  Seattle traded their stud center Unger to NO for that fancy TE (forget his name) and it was a bad move.  Their ability to run and to open throwing lanes inside went away.  

So Seattle hasn't given Wilson a great team to work with, but he also complains too much and focuses on his glory rather than the team.

But, that all makes me happy, I hate the seachickens and their bandwagon fans.

At the bold: Jimmy Graham

I think this is a new strategy available for elite QBs.  They only have a fixed amount of time in
their prime.  The longer they are on a
team the more it hinders the teams ability to put a good supporting cast around
them.  What’s the solution?  Make a stink and get traded to a team that
has good cap space and provides you with the money you want without sacrificing
your championship aspirations.  The team
can go out and get tons of free agents and put together a solid 3-4 year run, before
things get bloated and the QB moves on to the next team.

@"medaille" said: I think this is a new strategy available for elite QBs.  They only have a fixed amount of time in their prime.  The longer they are on a team the more it hinders the teams ability to put a good supporting cast around them.  What’s the solution?  Make a stink and get traded to a team that has good cap space and provides you with the money you want without sacrificing your championship aspirations.  The team can go out and get tons of free agents and put together a solid 3-4 year run, before things get bloated and the QB moves on to the next team.

This is definitely a good point and a problematic situation for teams with strong QBs as their contracts continue to dominate the salary cap. It instills volatility into the tenure period of that QB to win a Super Bowl because of cap implications and how the supporting cast is impacted by it. 

@"medaille" said: I think this is a new strategy available for elite QBs.  They only have a fixed amount of time in their prime.  The longer they are on a team the more it hinders the teams ability to put a good supporting cast around them.  What’s the solution?  Make a stink and get traded to a team that has good cap space and provides you with the money you want without sacrificing your championship aspirations.  The team can go out and get tons of free agents and put together a solid 3-4 year run, before things get bloated and the QB moves on to the next team.

Yes, like Stafford/Rams did last year.  Not looking up now but I think Staffords cap hit last year was less then half of Cousin's.  Only one year but still the Rams prove your point as does the Brady/Buccs before that.  The Bengals are trying to do it the old fashion way - draft a franchise QB and build.  I think you start with the old fashion way and when it doesn't seem to be working after year 3 then you can "try" the Brady/Stafford rental approach.  But that has to line up because a Brady/Stafford on the cheap deal does not open up every year but maybe every 4- or 5-years tops.   

@"minny65" said:

@"medaille" said: I think this is a new strategy available for elite QBs.  They only have a fixed amount of time in their prime.  The longer they are on a team the more it hinders the teams ability to put a good supporting cast around them.  What’s the solution?  Make a stink and get traded to a team that has good cap space and provides you with the money you want without sacrificing your championship aspirations.  The team can go out and get tons of free agents and put together a solid 3-4 year run, before things get bloated and the QB moves on to the next team.

Yes, like Stafford/Rams did last year.  Not looking up now but I think Staffords cap hit last year was less then half of Cousin's.  Only one year but still the Rams prove your point as does the Brady/Buccs before that.  The Bengals are trying to do it the old fashion way - draft a franchise QB and build.  I think you start with the old fashion way and when it doesn't seem to be working after year 3 then you can "try" the Brady/Stafford rental approach.  But that has to line up because a Brady/Stafford on the cheap deal does not open up every year but maybe every 4- or 5-years tops.   

Despite the fact, he is the most sacked QB in the last 9 years, I truly have never seen him take a hit. First time I saw him I said this is the reincarnation of Fran Tarkenton. But the strength of that team has always come from their defense. Never the less, he has had terrible offensive lines and performed well despite that.
Not sure they will have the team surrounding him to go to the superbowl; but I believe they will be a challenge to face. 

@"jargomcfargo" said: Despite the fact, he is the most sacked QB in the last 9 years, I truly have never seen him take a hit. First time I saw him I said this is the reincarnation of Fran Tarkenton. But the strength of that team has always come from their defense. Never the less, he has had terrible offensive lines and performed well despite that. Not sure they will have the team surrounding him to go to the superbowl; but I believe they will be a challenge to face. 

Good line, good receivers, good backs, and now the QB to run it all. Denver's definitely going to be a factor this year.  

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"jargomcfargo" said: Despite the fact, he is the most sacked QB in the last 9 years, I truly have never seen him take a hit. First time I saw him I said this is the reincarnation of Fran Tarkenton. But the strength of that team has always come from their defense. Never the less, he has had terrible offensive lines and performed well despite that. Not sure they will have the team surrounding him to go to the superbowl; but I believe they will be a challenge to face. 

Good line, good receivers, good backs, and now the QB to run it all. Denver's definitely going to be a factor this year.  

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"jargomcfargo" said: Despite the fact, he is the most sacked QB in the last 9 years, I truly have never seen him take a hit. First time I saw him I said this is the reincarnation of Fran Tarkenton. But the strength of that team has always come from their defense. Never the less, he has had terrible offensive lines and performed well despite that. Not sure they will have the team surrounding him to go to the superbowl; but I believe they will be a challenge to face. 

Good line, good receivers, good backs, and now the QB to run it all. Denver's definitely going to be a factor this year.  

Bills and Broncos are my 2nd and 3rd favorite teams behind the Vikings. 

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"jargomcfargo" said: Despite the fact, he is the most sacked QB in the last 9 years, I truly have never seen him take a hit. First time I saw him I said this is the reincarnation of Fran Tarkenton. But the strength of that team has always come from their defense. Never the less, he has had terrible offensive lines and performed well despite that. Not sure they will have the team surrounding him to go to the superbowl; but I believe they will be a challenge to face. 

Good line, good receivers, good backs, and now the QB to run it all. Denver's definitely going to be a factor this year.  

Bills and Broncos are my 2nd and 3rd favorite teams behind the Vikings. 

There's such a thing? :-)