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Why no announcement on Hunter?

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Wasn’t the deadline today to pick up the salary, renegotiate or trade him? I understand trade offers have been low but does that mean we have accepted we will pay him? Should have there been some announcement?

#1 · Mar 20, 7:39 PM
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#2 · Mar 20, 7:54 PM
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That's the last I heard anyway.

#3 · Mar 20, 7:57 PM
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Nothingbto announce. They paid him. 

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@"AGRforever" said: Nothingbto announce. They paid him. 
That could have been announced, with all the speculation surrounding the situation.
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@"AGRforever" said: Nothingbto announce. They paid him. 
Did they?  I am not sure about this.  I do believe the roster bonus is now guaranteed but I think there must be more to it.  I suspect they have not "paid" him yet.  If they had, they would have converted the roster bonus to a signing bonus and spread out the $18M over 4 years.  I think we are still looking for a longer deal or to trade him. That's my guess concerning this muddled and unclear situation.
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A couple things to know about Danielle Hunter’s $18M roster bonus:

 —While it becomes guaranteed this weekend, he still has to report to training camp on time to earn it.

 —First $6M paid w/in 10 days of camp report date.

 —Vikings still have right to convert it to SB at any time

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@"JustinTime18™" said:
A couple things to know about Danielle Hunter’s $18M roster bonus:

 —While it becomes guaranteed this weekend, he still has to report to training camp on time to earn it.

 —First $6M paid w/in 10 days of camp report date.

 —Vikings still have right to convert it to SB at any time



at the bold.  and that is why it wasnt converted to a signing bonus by now.  I believe once its converted he can hold out and the team has no recourse,  is that correct?

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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"JustinTime18™" said:
A couple things to know about Danielle Hunter’s $18M roster bonus:

 —While it becomes guaranteed this weekend, he still has to report to training camp on time to earn it.

 —First $6M paid w/in 10 days of camp report date.

 —Vikings still have right to convert it to SB at any time



at the bold.  and that is why it wasnt converted to a signing bonus by now.  I believe once its converted he can hold out and the team has no recourse,  is that correct?


This was my eluded to "its complicated" response from a few weeks back. There is recourse if he holds out but its not as simple. My guess is they'll leave Hunter on the $26M cap number for the time being. Once they get to the draft they can start to consider using it as a way to sign the draft class. 

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It’s weird. What to do with Danielle Hunter is one of the biggest questions the new GM and HC have to face.  To decide to pay the 18m is a significant decision. Now that the deadline has passed, not to make a statement regarding DH’s status seems really odd. Does this mean the situation is not fully resolved? If so, in what way? This new administration certainly has not proceeded in a way that would earn our confidence. Suggesting that they may bring back Sean Mannion? Absurd. Not restructuring Theilen, Smith etc in a timely way so they could participate in FA acquisitions? Stupid. Now this fumbling lack of clarity.  Maybe there is a strategy I’m just not seeing.  Maybe more will be revealed. I hope so.

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@"Caactorvike" said: It’s weird. What to do with Danielle Hunter is one of the biggest questions the new GM and HC have to face.  To decide to pay the 18m is a significant decision. Now that the deadline has passed, not to make a statement regarding DH’s status seems really odd. Does this mean the situation is not fully resolved? If so, in what way? This new administration certainly has not proceeded in a way that would earn our confidence. Suggesting that they may bring back Sean Mannion? Absurd. Not restructuring Theilen, Smith etc in a timely way so they could participate in FA acquisitions? Stupid. Now this fumbling lack of clarity.  Maybe there is a strategy I’m just not seeing.  Maybe more will be revealed. I hope so.
i figured it was kind of implied that they paid him when there was no report of him getting traded or a big new deal announced.
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@"Caactorvike" said: It’s weird. What to do with Danielle Hunter is one of the biggest questions the new GM and HC have to face.  To decide to pay the 18m is a significant decision. Now that the deadline has passed, not to make a statement regarding DH’s status seems really odd. Does this mean the situation is not fully resolved? If so, in what way? This new administration certainly has not proceeded in a way that would earn our confidence. Suggesting that they may bring back Sean Mannion? Absurd. Not restructuring Theilen, Smith etc in a timely way so they could participate in FA acquisitions? Stupid. Now this fumbling lack of clarity.  Maybe there is a strategy I’m just not seeing.  Maybe more will be revealed. I hope so.
I think the lack of clarity is the strategy of "Keep your cards close to your chest". This FO has been quiet all offseason and haven't had many leaks...this may be another situation while they take their time evaluating any additional options. A lot could happen on draft weekend
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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Caactorvike" said: It’s weird. What to do with Danielle Hunter is one of the biggest questions the new GM and HC have to face.  To decide to pay the 18m is a significant decision. Now that the deadline has passed, not to make a statement regarding DH’s status seems really odd. Does this mean the situation is not fully resolved? If so, in what way? This new administration certainly has not proceeded in a way that would earn our confidence. Suggesting that they may bring back Sean Mannion? Absurd. Not restructuring Theilen, Smith etc in a timely way so they could participate in FA acquisitions? Stupid. Now this fumbling lack of clarity.  Maybe there is a strategy I’m just not seeing.  Maybe more will be revealed. I hope so.
i figured it was kind of implied that they paid him when there was no report of him getting traded or a big new deal announced.
Right. I just wonder why they didn’t release a statement. He’s their premier defensive player and they just picked up his 18m option. Why no announcement?
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@"Caactorvike" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Caactorvike" said: It’s weird. What to do with Danielle Hunter is one of the biggest questions the new GM and HC have to face.  To decide to pay the 18m is a significant decision. Now that the deadline has passed, not to make a statement regarding DH’s status seems really odd. Does this mean the situation is not fully resolved? If so, in what way? This new administration certainly has not proceeded in a way that would earn our confidence. Suggesting that they may bring back Sean Mannion? Absurd. Not restructuring Theilen, Smith etc in a timely way so they could participate in FA acquisitions? Stupid. Now this fumbling lack of clarity.  Maybe there is a strategy I’m just not seeing.  Maybe more will be revealed. I hope so.
i figured it was kind of implied that they paid him when there was no report of him getting traded or a big new deal announced.
Right. I just wonder why they didn’t release a statement. He’s their premier defensive player and they just picked up his 18m option. Why no announcement?
I guess i didnt look at it that way,  it was already a contractual item,  not really an option,  just a bonus,  so I viewed as a bill that came due,  just like a game check.  the bill came due,  they paid it and away we go.
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Yeah I just figured he got paid so there is that. Also he has been kind of whiny for all the injuries and missed playing time he had. He needs to prove that he is still durable. Hopefully he mellows out and gets on with it.

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I also think the FO should have put something out on Hunter.  Basically, end any speculation and also put the ball squarely back on him to shut up and play or start to squeak and squawk.  The FO is honoring the contract and I would say as such.  IMO.    

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@"minny65" said: I also think the FO should have put something out on Hunter.  Basically, end any speculation and also put the ball squarely back on him to shut up and play or start to squeak and squawk.  The FO is honoring the contract and I would say as such.  IMO.    
since they never said otherwise, or openly talked about shopping him or trying to get him to rework his deal,  is it really something they should have then come to the public with?  IMO its on all the twits that had to try and make click bait bank that should have put the story out since they were the ones that made his contract a story to begin with.
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@"minny65" said: I also think the FO should have put something out on Hunter.  Basically, end any speculation and also put the ball squarely back on him to shut up and play or start to squeak and squawk.  The FO is honoring the contract and I would say as such.  IMO.    
I doubt they have their relationship on stable ground considering they likely came to him about a rework that didnt pay him top dollar. 

its understandable people need to take care of their business but it seems danielle is taking the position that since he was hurt on the job its the clubs duty to compensate him as agreed. i dont have a problem  with that but if he is truly threatening a holdout then that is a bitch move. 

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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"minny65" said: I also think the FO should have put something out on Hunter.  Basically, end any speculation and also put the ball squarely back on him to shut up and play or start to squeak and squawk.  The FO is honoring the contract and I would say as such.  IMO.    
since they never said otherwise, or openly talked about shopping him or trying to get him to rework his deal,  is it really something they should have then come to the public with?  IMO its on all the twits that had to try and make click bait bank that should have put the story out since they were the ones that made his contract a story to begin with.
I see your point but even if there was zero twit/bait the last few weeks I would be out front if I were the new FO that we have committed to pay Hunter the 18million.....ball back on him.  18 million commitment is not nothing especially for a team with a tight CAP situation. 

I think Bullazin might have a point....the FO might be chill on a presser because the relationship/timing might not be the best.

 

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Vikings officially convert Danielle Hunter’s bonus Much to Caactorvike’s Relief
After making some big news on Tuesday afternoon with the signing of edge rusher Za’Darius Smith, the Minnesota Vikings made a move that a lot of people expected them to make with their other premiere edge defender.
According to Field Yates of ESPN, the Vikings have officially converted Danielle Hunter’s roster bonus into a signing bonus. The move clears $13.5 million in cap space for the team.
https://www.dailynorseman.com/2022/3/22/22991492/minnesota-vikings-officially-convert-danielle-hunters-bonus-free-agency-salary-cap

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