Vegas has us at 6.5

Yeah, sounds about right. Probably picking anywhere from #8 to #11 in next year's Draft. 

@"StickyBun" said: Yeah, sounds about right. Probably picking anywhere from #8 to #11 in next year's Draft. 

Biggest reason why we shouldn't trade our 2025 1st.

@"Knucklehead" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Yeah, sounds about right. Probably picking anywhere from #8 to #11 in next year's Draft. 

Biggest reason why we shouldn't trade our 2025 1st.

@"Knucklehead" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Yeah, sounds about right. Probably picking anywhere from #8 to #11 in next year's Draft. 

Biggest reason why we shouldn't trade our 2025 1st.

@"medaille" said:

@"Knucklehead" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Yeah, sounds about right. Probably picking anywhere from #8 to #11 in next year's Draft. 

Biggest reason why we shouldn't trade our 2025 1st.

I don’t think this is entirely true.  The
reason we’re projected where we are is our lack of a QB moreso than our overall
roster talent.  The solution is to get a
QB and probably get them a year of seasoning more than it is to get more
picks.  I think it could be debated on
whether the best way to get a QB is to trade up for a “better” prospect or take
multiple swings at it, but yeah over investing in one guy is a big risk if it doesn't pan out.

@"Knucklehead" said:

@"medaille" said:

@"Knucklehead" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Yeah, sounds about right. Probably picking anywhere from #8 to #11 in next year's Draft. 

Biggest reason why we shouldn't trade our 2025 1st.

I don’t think this is entirely true.  The
reason we’re projected where we are is our lack of a QB moreso than our overall
roster talent.  The solution is to get a
QB and probably get them a year of seasoning more than it is to get more
picks.  I think it could be debated on
whether the best way to get a QB is to trade up for a “better” prospect or take
multiple swings at it, but yeah over investing in one guy is a big risk if it doesn't pan out.

Draft history shows us that no matter which 1st round QB we choose, that QB is unlikely to develop into our franchise QB & as you stated over investing in one guy is a big risk if it doesn't pan out. Draft history also shows us that missing on a 1st round QB won't set your franchise back, but spending multiple 1st round picks to draft a QB & missing on that QB will indeed set your franchise back.

I didn't like having to include our 2025 2nd round pick in the trade for #23 as that pick potentially can be a top 40 pick. However, I understood the need to do so. That trade doesn't happen without our 2025 2nd rounder.
Now that KAM has telegraphed his intention to trade up into the top 10 to draft a QB, I have no issue with trading #11 & #23 to do so. I wouldn't even have an issue with having to include Day 3 picks in  order to seal the deal. But given the miss rate on 1st round QBs (& after seeing Penix's pro day today) trading away our 2025 1st is a hard no for me.

6.5 might be high. Some just won’t come to grips with how God awful Sam Darnold is. He’s Nick Mullens with a bigger arm. 
Unless we somehow luck into this year’s CJ Stroud, 5 wins feels about right. 

@"CFIAvike" said: 6.5 might be high. Some just won’t come to grips with how God awful Sam Darnold is. He’s Nick Mullens with a bigger arm. 

Unless we somehow luck into this year’s CJ Stroud, 5 wins feels about right. 

Nobody beats a dead horse like you and Supa, interjecting the same tired shit into every thread. 

@"CFIAvike" said: 6.5 might be high. Some just won’t come to grips with how God awful Sam Darnold is. He’s Nick Mullens with a bigger arm. 

Unless we somehow luck into this year’s CJ Stroud, 5 wins feels about right. 

Just think, if Darnold gets us to the playoffs that would put him higher than our last QB. Just saying.

@"FLVike" said:

@"CFIAvike" said: 6.5 might be high. Some just won’t come to grips with how God awful Sam Darnold is. He’s Nick Mullens with a bigger arm. 

Unless we somehow luck into this year’s CJ Stroud, 5 wins feels about right. 

Just think, if Darnold gets us to the playoffs that would put him higher than our last QB. Just saying.

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"FLVike" said:

@"CFIAvike" said: 6.5 might be high. Some just won’t come to grips with how God awful Sam Darnold is. He’s Nick Mullens with a bigger arm. 

Unless we somehow luck into this year’s CJ Stroud, 5 wins feels about right. 

Just think, if Darnold gets us to the playoffs that would put him higher than our last QB. Just saying.

No high standard there. Mullens is not a playoff QB.  

This number is going to up after the Vikings draft their QBOTF. Get in now, Viking fans. 

@"FLVike" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"FLVike" said:

@"CFIAvike" said: 6.5 might be high. Some just won’t come to grips with how God awful Sam Darnold is. He’s Nick Mullens with a bigger arm. 

Unless we somehow luck into this year’s CJ Stroud, 5 wins feels about right. 

Just think, if Darnold gets us to the playoffs that would put him higher than our last QB. Just saying.

No high standard there. Mullens is not a playoff QB.  

That is true but I was talking about our last QB that got us to the playoffs.

You got Darnold + a crap ton of unknown on the D side
6.5 is about right imo

I'll say it again, this franchise needs a fresh new direction and re-boot. QB is the most visible way to re-energize the fan base. 

@"FLVike" said:

@"CFIAvike" said: 6.5 might be high. Some just won’t come to grips with how God awful Sam Darnold is. He’s Nick Mullens with a bigger arm. 

Unless we somehow luck into this year’s CJ Stroud, 5 wins feels about right. 

Just think, if Darnold gets us to the playoffs that would put him higher than our last QB. Just saying.

@"CFIAvike" said:

@"FLVike" said:

@"CFIAvike" said: 6.5 might be high. Some just won’t come to grips with how God awful Sam Darnold is. He’s Nick Mullens with a bigger arm. 

Unless we somehow luck into this year’s CJ Stroud, 5 wins feels about right. 

Just think, if Darnold gets us to the playoffs that would put him higher than our last QB. Just saying.

I don’t believe in miracles

Game managing QB who isn't a turnover machine, run game with Jones, improved defense, could add up to more than 6.5 wins. 
This season could be anywhere between 3 to 10 wins. Definitely a transition year. 

Also have to factor in an easier schedule due to the weak finish last year.  7 to 9 wins wouldn't shock me,  even with a bridge QB.

It is really going to ride on if we hit on a QB in the draft who comes in and has a solid season, if that were to be the case, I think we can go in the 9 win range.  

@"JR44" said: It is really going to ride on if we hit on a QB in the draft who comes in and has a solid season, if that were to be the case, I think we can go in the 9 win range.