Would you get behind this?

During an appearance on SporsCenter, ESPN insider Jeremy Fowler gave the scoop on the Vikings and Maye, citing a belief around the league that they know he could be a perfect fit for Minnesota, h/t Bleacher Report.
"Drake Maye, I've heard from multiple league execs he has the most upside of any of the quarterbacks in this draft, maybe any player in this draft," Fowler said. "He's got that Josh Allen, Justin Herbert build—I'm not saying he's them but he's got some of those shades—where if you can let him sit for a year behind the scenes, he can really develop into an All-Star.
"The Vikings could be a perfect scenario for them. There's a belief among some teams that Minnesota could try to trade up to get him. It would take a lot, but they are armed with two first-round picks to try to make it happen."
The connection with Maye and the Vikings isn't necessarily new. Minnesota hired former NFL quarterback Josh McCown as the team's quarterbacks coach this offseason. McCown, who showed an eye for talent last year when he reportedly preferred C.J. Stroud over Bryce Young, actually coached Maye at Myers Park High School in Charlotte, NC before the QB went to the Tar Heels. 

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I'm conflicted about it. Ideally, probably not. But if they think Maye is the dude, I mean they REALLY feel that way, do it. Its their asses on the line ultimately. I've seen enough Troy Williamsons, Dimitrious Underwoods, Lewis Cines, etc. to know that first rounds picks are only potential, not a hard commodity. They are only as compensation. 

I keep reading from some, 'what about this regime makes you feel they could pull it off?'. And its like, lol....KOC and KAM have been with the organization a whopping 2 years. Bill Belichick sucked in Cleveland. The Eagles let a Superbowl winner in Andy Reid go. As MB said and I've said as much, its all about the QB. Its transformational how a great QB makes everyone in the organization look like Albert Einstein. 

@"StickyBun" said: I'm conflicted about it. Ideally, probably not. But if they think Maye is the dude, I mean they REALLY feel that way, do it. Its their asses on the line ultimately. I've seen enough Troy Williamsons, Dimitrious Underwoods, Lewis Cines, etc. to know that first rounds picks are only potential, not a hard commodity. They are only as compensation. 

I keep reading from some, 'what about this regime makes you feel they could pull it off?'. And its like, lol....KOC and KAM have been with the organization a whopping 2 years. Bill Belichick sucked in Cleveland. The Eagles let a Superbowl winner in Andy Reid go. As MB said and I've said as much, its all about the QB. Its transformational how a great QB makes everyone in the organization look like Albert Einstein. 

I am too...

I came into the off-season really wanting Daniels, now I think Maye is the guy. 

I get really nervous about giving-up a #1 pick in 25, with so much unknown about this 24 squad. 

I get a whiff of Carolina BBQ thinking about it. 

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"StickyBun" said: I'm conflicted about it. Ideally, probably not. But if they think Maye is the dude, I mean they REALLY feel that way, do it. Its their asses on the line ultimately. I've seen enough Troy Williamsons, Dimitrious Underwoods, Lewis Cines, etc. to know that first rounds picks are only potential, not a hard commodity. They are only as compensation. 

I keep reading from some, 'what about this regime makes you feel they could pull it off?'. And its like, lol....KOC and KAM have been with the organization a whopping 2 years. Bill Belichick sucked in Cleveland. The Eagles let a Superbowl winner in Andy Reid go. As MB said and I've said as much, its all about the QB. Its transformational how a great QB makes everyone in the organization look like Albert Einstein. 

I get a whiff of Carolina BBQ thinking about it. 

I'm not conflicted about it! If he is the chosen one, the one above all others they believe has the ability to lead this team the next decade or more. Go get him. That additional one is the price of doing business these days.
If they are just looking for the best of the leftovers and not their number one target; stay at 11 or take a developmental QB later in the draft.
The seemingly endless line of free agency QB's doesn't seem to work unless they are named, Brett Favre, Tom Brady, or Payton Manning, for the most part.
New front office, new concept on how to win a championship. With KOC the QB is key, as it is with most all teams.
If they go for it and fail; at least the tried.

@"jargomcfargo" said: I'm not conflicted about it! If he is the chosen one, the one above all others they believe has the ability to lead this team the next decade or more. Go get him. That additional one is the price of doing business these days. If they are just looking for the best of the leftovers and not their number one target; stay at 11 or take a developmental QB later in the draft. The seemingly endless line of free agency QB's doesn't seem to work unless they are named, Brett Favre, Tom Brady, or Payton Manning, for the most part. New front office, new concept on how to win a championship. With KOC the QB is key, as it is with most all teams. If they go for it and fail; at least the tried.

I hear you, but here's the problem: All 3 of the teams picking in round 1 need a QB. I don't think the normal comp card for trades is going to work next month. Minnesota might have to give up more than what's ever been given up before to move up in the top 2 or 3. That's why I'm conflicted. Its not this transactional thing, teams in the top 3 are going to need something stupid to move off that. More stupid than normal, that's concerning.

Teams picking in top 3 generally dont have franchise level QB's. But I agree there is something unique about this year that says "additional garnishments required"

Unique year in that I dont think a Nabers or generational talent ala MHJ will crack top 3. One will get in top 5 though. 

I'm not in favor of trading our 2025 1st. But, if we got back a 2025 2nd which will probably be a top 50 pick & another Day 3 pick either in 2024 or 2025, I would at least consider it.

Absolutely. If that's the guy all their tape study and analytics says is the best fit for the offense, then go get him. If he's Justin Herbert, nobody's going to care about that '25 1st...especially if the QBs you might "settle" for at 11 becomes the next Trey, Zach or Mac. Could they be wrong? Could it be reversed? Of course, but you have to trust your process. 

The situation is interesting from a timing perspective too...

You cant pull the trigger on something too early unless its @ 2 or you have a couple guys rated equally. 

IF you are hard-set on MAye (but not JJM or Daniels) and the Commanders draft him @ 2?

Then what do you do? 

Closer we get to draft, the more likely it appears any potential trade is in real time...Hope the chat room is up and running by then. 

Hide the children...

Maye is at best 4th on my list of QB’s. The last time I remember a guy as pumped up as he is was Blake Bortles. I’m not saying he can’t become a great player, it’s just going to take time and it’s risky. That’s a guy you take at 11 at the highest. 
Caleb Williams has the highest “upside”. Then probably Nix or Daniels. Accuracy is so vital at the NFL level, it’s a necessity to become a top 5 guy. 

If they are able to get their guy, then hell to the yeah. LFG 

@"Havoc1649" said: Maye is at best 4th on my list of QB’s. The last time I remember a guy as pumped up as he is was Blake Bortles. I’m not saying he can’t become a great player, it’s just going to take time and it’s risky. That’s a guy you take at 11 at the highest. 

Caleb Williams has the highest “upside”. Then probably Nix or Daniels. Accuracy is so vital at the NFL level, it’s a necessity to become a top 5 guy. 

It is genuinely going to be so interesting to see where these QBs end up going in the Draft. 

I think Nix is being under represented in the mocks,   and this is from a Penix fan. So many want to draft for potential and that ceiling gets inflated higher and higher,  meanwhile very rarely do the planets align to reach that pre draft ceiling,   meanwhile that guy that had solid college stats and career just continues to perform, only difference is its on Sunday now.

If KAM and KOC believe Maye is the guy, then we have to swing. This may be as close as we get to such a QB. If we're trading to 4 or 5, I would hope we wouldn't have to trade our 25 first. If we do, I would hope we'd get something back.

Payton is talkimg like the donkeys are willing to get into the race for a top pick,  have to think the Giants are in the mix and they have a much higher launching point to give them an advantage for 4.  This could get real expensive in a hurry. 

I'm a fan of drafting more QBs over multiple years, rather than more picks into 1 QB.  I really don't think NFL teams are that accurate at picking out the good QB out of the lineup.

That said, if they feel conviction that they are getting a significantly better QB than they could by not trading up, I don't think it's super horrible if the draft pain is limited to 2024 and 2025, and you get back to drafting with high picks in 2026.  The idea of spending the 2026 pick as well is a big WTF as no one is good enough at drafting to really warrant that level of commitment.

@"JimmyinSD" said: I think Nix is being under represented in the mocks,   and this is from a Penix fan. So many want to draft for potential and that ceiling gets inflated higher and higher,  meanwhile very rarely do the planets align to reach that pre draft ceiling,   meanwhile that guy that had solid college stats and career just continues to perform, only difference is its on Sunday now.

Right. I mean would you really hate drafting a 6'2 bigger armed version of a guy that can remind of Drew Brees?

@"kmillard" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said: I think Nix is being under represented in the mocks,   and this is from a Penix fan. So many want to draft for potential and that ceiling gets inflated higher and higher,  meanwhile very rarely do the planets align to reach that pre draft ceiling,   meanwhile that guy that had solid college stats and career just continues to perform, only difference is its on Sunday now.

Right. I mean would you really hate drafting a 6'2 bigger armed version of a guy that can remind of Drew Brees?

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"kmillard" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said: I think Nix is being under represented in the mocks,   and this is from a Penix fan. So many want to draft for potential and that ceiling gets inflated higher and higher,  meanwhile very rarely do the planets align to reach that pre draft ceiling,   meanwhile that guy that had solid college stats and career just continues to perform, only difference is its on Sunday now.

Right. I mean would you really hate drafting a 6'2 bigger armed version of a guy that can remind of Drew Brees?

If they dont move up? I think this is the guy Payton runs to the podium for. I would be ok with Nix and the 23rd pic - if the Vikings are. I personally would prefer Nix over Penix.