What if: Penix at #11, Powers-Johnson at #23?

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: So many questions… Why trade two 2nd rounders so we can have two 1st rounders just so we can draft two 2nd rounders in the 1st round? Why take a center in the 1st round at all? Ever? Take one in the 4th. Why pay Bradbury a $5M bonus if you were just going to replace him in the draft? Why ignore all that DL talent in the late 1st round in order to bolster a top half offensive line when Flores’s front three is practically begging for talent?  

I agree with you, but think Powers Johnson could also play left guard as well as center, which is still an unsettled position for us currently. Just put your best 5 lineman out there. If Bradbury is still one of those guys, so be it, but we know he's a liability in half the games he plays. If we draft a rookie quarterback who has to play earlier rather than later, having some semblance of an interior offensive line that can protect him would be helpful..

The Vikings were reportedly very close to signing Christian Wilkins until the Raiders upped their offer. They clearly want and need some help on the DL. What's more, while Bradbury and Brandel can be upgraded, the rookie QB will be much better served with veterans there than rookies. It's just the more prudent move. 

Also, everybody and his brother wanted John Michael Schmitz last year. He graded out as the worst center in the NFL last year. I don't think you want your rookie QB to suffer through that. Before Bradbury fell off a cliff when Cousins went down, he was grading as a top 10 center. It's not a given the JPJ would even start over Bradbury. I think it's unlikely actually.  

Meanwhile our 5Ts are currently Jerry Tillery and Jonathan Bullard. I draft IOL on day three and use that second 1st on a DT...Murphy, Newton, Fiske. It's not just that DT is where the value is, it's the bigger need. 

I don’t think we will get the QB we want staying put at 11 especially now that the Jets at 10 are also looking at trading back. We have to move up. Not sure how high but if we stay at 11 we will most definitely “settle” if we want a QB

@"mblack" said: I don’t think we will get the QB we want staying put at 11 especially now that the Jets at 10 are also looking at trading back. We have to move up. Not sure how high but if we stay at 11 we will most definitely “settle” if we want a QB

Things are heating up for Washington QB Michael Penix Jr: Sources say he had dinner with the #Giants in Seattle after his Pro Day, followed by a private workout with the #Vikings in Seattle.

Penix will have top 30s with the #Broncos, #Falcons, #Raiders and #Commanders, per… pic.twitter.com/b4ef1exDYz

— Jordan Schultz (@Schultz_Report) April 1, 2024

Thought that the Michael Penix Jr & Drake Maye pro days really showed the contrast in the QBs. Penix is a machine throwing it over and over. Maye loses control of his throws more than any of the top QBs in consideration. Penix is being underrated. He should be a Top 20 pick

— Chris Simms (@CSimmsQB) April 1, 2024

@"StickyBun" said: https://twitter.com/CSimmsQB/status/1774819438744805866

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"StickyBun" said: https://twitter.com/CSimmsQB/status/1774819438744805866

I sense a little bit of position defending going on with Simms. 

@"StickyBun" said: https://twitter.com/CSimmsQB/status/1774819438744805866

Michigan QB J.J. McCarthy will be a top-5 pick: BUY

"The McCarthy buzz is real, and we expect him to be a top-five pick come draft night. It’s now just a question of how early he goes and which team he ends up with."

LSU QB Jayden Daniels will be the No. 2 overall pick: SELL

"We think Maye is becoming this year’s overthought quarterback prospect, akin to C.J. Stroud last year, S2 test notwithstanding, and will end up as the No. 2 overall pick when all is said and done."

Why am I getting the feeling that Daniels might be the QB that slips out of the top 3?

@"mgobluevikes" said: Why am I getting the feeling that Daniels might be the QB that slips out of the top 3?

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"mblack" said: I don’t think we will get the QB we want staying put at 11 especially now that the Jets at 10 are also looking at trading back. We have to move up. Not sure how high but if we stay at 11 we will most definitely “settle” if we want a QB

flip them a pick next year (4th) to trade spots with us this year so that somebody cant jump directly ahead of us?  might be cheaper than what we would have to give up to move ahead of whoever they would trade with,  assuming somebody doesnt still leap frog us with Chicago or other like TN.

Either he doesn't much care for the accuracy of Penix or KOC is one hell of a card player.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1772682292391031043 

@"NorseFeathers" said:

Either he doesn't much care for the accuracy of Penix or KOC is one hell of a card player. https://twitter.com/i/status/1772682292391031043 

@"supafreak84" said:

@"mgobluevikes" said: Why am I getting the feeling that Daniels might be the QB that slips out of the top 3?

Just me, but I think Washington brought in Kingsbury to specifically work with Daniels and design an offense around him. Daniels is the type of quarterback Kingsbury loves because of his running ability 

@"NorseFeathers" said:

Either he doesn't much care for the accuracy of Penix or KOC is one hell of a card player. https://twitter.com/i/status/1772682292391031043 

@"Montana Tom" said:

@"NorseFeathers" said:

Either he doesn't much care for the accuracy of Penix or KOC is one hell of a card player. https://twitter.com/i/status/1772682292391031043 

Penix was a 65% completion passer last season.  Nix was a 77.4% completion passer. Read between the lines...that's what he is saying.

@"mgobluevikes" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"mgobluevikes" said: Why am I getting the feeling that Daniels might be the QB that slips out of the top 3?

Just me, but I think Washington brought in Kingsbury to specifically work with Daniels and design an offense around him. Daniels is the type of quarterback Kingsbury loves because of his running ability 

I'm surprised anybody, let alone the new Commies brass would hitch their wagon to a Kingsbury "offensive" philosophy which failed so spectacularly post-Texas Tech.

@"supafreak84" said:

@"mgobluevikes" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"mgobluevikes" said: Why am I getting the feeling that Daniels might be the QB that slips out of the top 3?

Just me, but I think Washington brought in Kingsbury to specifically work with Daniels and design an offense around him. Daniels is the type of quarterback Kingsbury loves because of his running ability 

I'm surprised anybody, let alone the new Commies brass would hitch their wagon to a Kingsbury "offensive" philosophy which failed so spectacularly post-Texas Tech.

Dan Quinn is a Zimner type who just wants to focus on his defense and let someone else run the offense and Kingsbury is still well thought of as an offensive mind. Daniels is more the type of quarterback he traditionally prefers with his running ability. The Commies don't have much on offense so finding a big play quarterback would be huge for them. I'd be surprised to see them go Maye, who is another North Carolina product and shares some similarities with the guy they just ousted in Sam Howell 

@"mgobluevikes" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"mgobluevikes" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"mgobluevikes" said: Why am I getting the feeling that Daniels might be the QB that slips out of the top 3?

Just me, but I think Washington brought in Kingsbury to specifically work with Daniels and design an offense around him. Daniels is the type of quarterback Kingsbury loves because of his running ability 

I'm surprised anybody, let alone the new Commies brass would hitch their wagon to a Kingsbury "offensive" philosophy which failed so spectacularly post-Texas Tech.

Dan Quinn is a Zimner type who just wants to focus on his defense and let someone else run the offense and Kingsbury is still well thought of as an offensive mind. Daniels is more the type of quarterback he traditionally prefers with his running ability. The Commies don't have much on offense so finding a big play quarterback would be huge for them. I'd be surprised to see them go Maye, who is another North Carolina product and shares some similarities with the guy they just ousted in Sam Howell 

I get that comparison, but why would Quinn want to go with such a high risk offense out of the gate, when the body of evidence just doesn't support it. I think the number of NFL teams that hold Kingsbury in such high regard is actually pretty small. If they want to go with Daniels based on his strengths of arm talent and reading defenses, cool, but that guy is going to get killed if they use him like Jackson, Hurts, Murray, etc.