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TJ Ward or Joe Haden, anyone?

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Apparently both are being shopped. 
I don't think either is in the Vikings' price range even if they're looking, but I know I'd rather see Ward than Sendejo, or Kearse, or whoever....

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#1 · Aug 29, 1:40 PM
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Vikings already spoke with Denver, they want a high pick for Ward. Vikings passed,  Haden makes way too much money for the Vikings to add. Pass on him as well 

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#2 · Aug 29, 1:46 PM
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I've read that the Broncos might cut Ward. He seems like he could be a good fit and could be a nice "final piece" if we think we have a great defense. But we haven't played like that...

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#3 · Aug 29, 1:52 PM
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It's starting to sound like Joe Haden isn't your father's Joe Hayden anymore...Not sure if a change of scenery will do the trick or if his legs are shot...

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An item at the Factory Of Sadness fire sale that might be worth inspection...

Cameron Erving - T - BrownsThe Cleveland Plain Dealer's Mary Kay Cabot reports the Browns are shopping former first-round OL Cameron Erving.

The No. 19 overall pick in 2015, Erving has played multiple positions and struggled in all of them. He was competing for the right tackle job this year, but he went down with a calf injury last week. He likely would not have beaten out Shon Coleman either way. The Browns are also attempting to move Joe Haden and Brock Osweiler.

Source: Cleveland Plain Dealer Aug 29 - 11:15 AMPlayer Outlook

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#5 · Aug 30, 4:55 AM
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Ward is 30, getting a decent paycheck, and in the walk year...if Elway is looking for a high pick, he's been spending too much time at his dispensary of choice... 

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#6 · Aug 30, 5:41 AM
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Joe Haden was just released by the Browns. 28 years old. 

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#7 · Aug 30, 6:02 AM
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Wow...thought he was older...Maybe a move to S extends his career...guy is always nicked up...

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#8 · Aug 30, 6:06 AM
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/08/30/browns-release-joe-haden/

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The move may not be met with a round of applause from coach Hue Jackson, who said on Tuesday that he wants Haden on the team. There might not be any outright argument either as Jackson also said that he will go along with “whatever our organization thinks is best for our football team.”

Good to see management and coaching on the same page...#Factoryofsadness

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#10 · Aug 30, 6:12 AM
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I would assume that Hayden gets picked up on waivers. I think it may be too late to add a CB that tend to take a while to play Zims way. I am guessing we wont look at him unless he wants to move to S

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Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter  6m6 minutes ago

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Joe Haden's agent Drew Rosenhaus on his client: "Tons of interest in him. He will have a new deal with another team by tomorrow afternoon."

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@"Canthony" said: I would assume that Hayden gets picked up on waivers. I think it may be too late to add a CB that tend to take a while to play Zims way. I am guessing we wont look at him unless he wants to move to S

He can't be waived.  He's an automatic free agent.

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talk this morning was the saints would be the most likely to pay him decent money,  but the patriots are always looking to grab others tossed aside treasures and make the rest of the league look stupid.

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@"BarrNone55" said: An item at the Factory Of Sadness fire sale that might be worth inspection...
Cameron Erving - T - BrownsThe Cleveland Plain Dealer's Mary Kay Cabot reports the Browns are shopping former first-round OL Cameron Erving.

The No. 19 overall pick in 2015, Erving has played multiple positions and struggled in all of them. He was competing for the right tackle job this year, but he went down with a calf injury last week. He likely would not have beaten out Shon Coleman either way. The Browns are also attempting to move Joe Haden and Brock Osweiler.

Source: Cleveland Plain Dealer Aug 29 - 11:15 AMPlayer Outlook



I really liked Erving coming out in the draft, but it's been a surprise that he couldn't win a full-time job in Cleveland. I'm not sure what he would do here, unless our coach and GM want someone to push or supplant Remmers at RT. 

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@"Jor-El" said:
@"BarrNone55" said: An item at the Factory Of Sadness fire sale that might be worth inspection...
Cameron Erving - T - BrownsThe Cleveland Plain Dealer's Mary Kay Cabot reports the Browns are shopping former first-round OL Cameron Erving.

The No. 19 overall pick in 2015, Erving has played multiple positions and struggled in all of them. He was competing for the right tackle job this year, but he went down with a calf injury last week. He likely would not have beaten out Shon Coleman either way. The Browns are also attempting to move Joe Haden and Brock Osweiler.

Source: Cleveland Plain Dealer Aug 29 - 11:15 AMPlayer Outlook



I really liked Erving coming out in the draft, but it's been a surprise that he couldn't win a full-time job in Cleveland. I'm not sure what he would do here, unless our coach and GM want someone to push or supplant Remmers at RT. 


He's probably worth a peek...too talented..timing is prohibitive though...

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#16 · Aug 30, 8:58 AM
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so for those of you that will watch anything football. ( i cant watch shitty teams)  how bad/good is the browns OL?  i've heard it called both ways,  so are they really that shitty?  if so why would we want to take a look at a player they are cutting?  ( its not like the vikings have recent history of developing OL talent)

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 Browns are also attempting to move Joe Haden and Brock Osweiler.



LMAO.  any takers?

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@"JimmyinSD" said: so for those of you that will watch anything football. ( i cant watch shitty teams)  how bad/good is the browns OL?  i've heard it called both ways,  so are they really that shitty?  if so why would we want to take a look at a player they are cutting?  ( its not like the vikings have recent history of developing OL talent)
I think the Haden release might be about money.  I heard they wanted him to take a pay cut and he refused.  Haven't seen him play this preseason but I've always thought he was pretty good.  I really don't know anything about the Erving situation.
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@"1VikesFan" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said: so for those of you that will watch anything football. ( i cant watch shitty teams)  how bad/good is the browns OL?  i've heard it called both ways,  so are they really that shitty?  if so why would we want to take a look at a player they are cutting?  ( its not like the vikings have recent history of developing OL talent)
I think the Haden release might be about money.  I heard they wanted him to take a pay cut and he refused.  Haven't seen him play this preseason but I've always thought he was pretty good.
from what i've heard he has been injured quite a bit the last couple years battling concussion and groin issues and consequently his play has fallen off quite a bit.
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Cleveland Browns‏Verified account @Browns  8m8 minutes ago

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We have traded OL Cam Erving to KC for a 2018 5th round pick.

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