They look like shit

@"Bezerker88" said: I don't know did the patriot players look like they knew their jobs in the first half of last year's Super Bowl? 

....but they were playing the in the Superbowl. They were good enough to get there and the 2nd half showed why there were the better team. This isn't even any kind of comparison, with all due respect. We're talking about the Vikings here, who've had O-line issues for awhile now, even before the injuries of last year. What they added with Reiff and Remmers is marginally better, that's it. And we've yet to see if that is 100% accurate as maybe they aren't going to perform better. 

It is the preseason. Its the last branch of hope I'm holding onto as far as any kind of optimism, along with they are getting healthy at the right time to start the season. If they look good against New Orleans and win, then this truly was just the garbage of preseason football, washed away. 

I've typed out three replys and since my system was knocked on the floor overnight it suddenly "pages back" randomly and I lose everything.    Frustrating as hell...
so I'll just say... yep I agree so I don't have to type any more. 

@"Bezerker88" said: I've typed out three replys and since my system was knocked on the floor overnight it suddenly "pages back" randomly and I lose everything.    Frustrating as hell... so I'll just say... yep I agree so I don't have to type any more. 

Yikes I don't think I can troubleshoot that!

People are going to overreact about the preseason every year. But what gives me legitimate cause for concern is that the performance we've seen by the defense isn't new. If it were new, we could legitimately dismiss it as no game planning, or poor preparation, or just a bad day. But what we've seen the last three weeks is a continuation of whatever the hell happened to this defense last October. And that's scary as hell. You don't need to be wearing purple sunglasses to see that this defense is stacked. Stacked like few defenses are. Vikings might need a shrink more than they need a coach. 

@"ArizonaViking" said: People forget...pre-season is to evaluate players, test schemes and establish rhythm on both sides of the ball, not blow up the scoreboard.

Nobody is talking about the scoreboard. We are all talking about executing the plays in a matter that will matter in the regular season.

@"MaroonBells" said:  But what we've seen the last three weeks is a continuation of whatever the hell happened to this defense last October. And that's scary as hell.

This is my biggest concern, something is going on that started last year.  Barr don't look like he gives a damn, and I believe that no matter how good you are, you just can't turn it on when you want. 
The OLine looks no better than adequate, Diggs lackadaisical.  You win the games at practice, and you execute what you practice, I haven't been hearing a lot of great things, just optimism.

I can write off SF outplaying us because they game planned and we didn't.  That first half may just be their highlight film for the year, but it sure felt familiar to me.  Sure hope the team looks better stopping VaJayJay and Ajayi.

I have to think and believe that Harry's multiple miscue's the last two games are completely fixable because they were mistakes that I rarely have seen him make in a real game.  He was responsible for both 49'er TD's last week and the week before did a run blitz right past the runner that was one of Seattle's biggest runs.    So Zimmer might have been trying some new things with Harry that screwed him up or maybe he needs to gameplan.

Then Diggs on offense last week - two 12+ yard drops that killed drives.  He had 3 drops all last year.

So, while I understand everyone's angst these are two of our best players who have performed when it counted.  

@"BigAl99" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:  But what we've seen the last three weeks is a continuation of whatever the hell happened to this defense last October. And that's scary as hell.

This is my biggest concern, something is going on that started last year.  Barr don't look like he gives a damn, and I believe that no matter how good you are, you just can't turn it on when you want. 
The OLine looks no better than adequate, Diggs lackadaisical.  You win the games at practice, and you execute what you practice, I haven't been hearing a lot of great things, just optimism.

I can write off SF outplaying us because they game planned and we didn't.  That first half may just be their highlight film for the year, but it sure felt familiar to me.  Sure hope the team looks better stopping VaJayJay and Ajayi.

I don't think Zimmer has lost the team.  Harry and Diggs will be ready when the real games start.  

@"dukes" said:

@"ArizonaViking" said: People forget...pre-season is to evaluate players, test schemes and establish rhythm on both sides of the ball, not blow up the scoreboard.

Nobody is talking about the scoreboard. We are all talking about executing the plays in a matter that will matter in the regular season.

@"minny65" said: I don't think Zimmer has lost the team.  Harry and Diggs will be ready when the real games start.  

Hope so. But...explain last year's Indianapolis game.

@"Jor-El" said:

@"minny65" said: I don't think Zimmer has lost the team.  Harry and Diggs will be ready when the real games start.  

Hope so. But...explain last year's Indianapolis game.

well we are all going to find out soon enough how prepared this team is. 

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"Jor-El" said:

@"minny65" said: I don't think Zimmer has lost the team.  Harry and Diggs will be ready when the real games start.  

Hope so. But...explain last year's Indianapolis game.

shit happens,  even the best coached teams have bad loses.   if anything would suggest a lost locker room IMO it would be that debacle in the gbay game with Rhodes and Newman freelancing on the coverage assignments,  however if he really had lost them,  I am sure some would not have been back.

A huge part of its mental especially with the defense. They need to get their minds right and their heads out.