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From http://www.mnvikingscorner.com/2017/08/upon-further-review-vikings-vs-bills.html?spref=tw

Daniel House does a good job reviewing several areas and players.  I enjoy the article and he seems to balance the preseason game with plenty of knowledge from training camp.  That really bolsters a great breakdown with some depth.

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#1 · Aug 15, 2:55 PM
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As you said, this is a good read and great breakdown that adds to a lot of the positional battles we are all watching. 

  • Just so I can be the first to ask...does Beavers have a shot at winning the RT job over Remmers??
  • There is a bit of a logjam at DT: I don't think they can carry 5 (Joseph, Tom Johnson, Datone Jones, Shamar Stephen, Jaleel Johnson). Tom Johnson seems to be a big favorite of many fans, but I thought he had declined last year even before getting hurt. I don't think both he and Jones will make the team.
  • House sure makes it sound like Eric Wilson is well ahead of Elijah Lee - can anyone who observed practices comment? I thought Wilson was the better college prospect, but they used a draft pick on Lee..

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#2 · Aug 16, 7:19 AM
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Doubt Beavers is winning the starting job.  Will be happy if he improved enough to make the roster.

at DT, I think Datone eventually wins the job.  He was a former 1st round pick, right?  Tom J is a good pass rush guy, but gets mauled in the run game.  But I think he makes the team unless the other johnson shows he is ready.  If we keep only 4, it would probably mean cutting Tom or Jaleel.

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I would really love to hear some report or see evidence in a preseason game that Datone Jones is making plays - but I have not yet. I'm glad we signed him because he was a very good prospect coming out of college and I think GB mis-used him for 4 years. But resurrecting his career is an experiment, and it might not work.

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http://www.vikings.com/news/lunch-break/article-1/Lunchbreak-Big-Bertha-Helping-Datone-Jones-Transition-with-Vikings-/737c5fee-9a82-46d3-8d36-ec0c7d25d104

it isn't much, but if anyone can help him resurrect his career, it is patterson.

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#5 · Aug 16, 10:05 AM
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Thanks Greediron. Hey, Patterson said Jones is improving - that's a start.  :)

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#6 · Aug 16, 2:13 PM
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I have to admit, I was impressed with Willie Beavers. If his performance against the Bills was any indication, he might just make this team. Looked like he belonged at right tackle. 

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#7 · Aug 16, 2:59 PM
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That is a huge step.  If he can be a viable option at RT for the future, it solidifies our line in a big way. 

Looking forward to seeing a bit more of these guys Friday.

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@"Jor-El" said: I would really love to hear some report or see evidence in a preseason game that Datone Jones is making plays - but I have not yet. I'm glad we signed him because he was a very good prospect coming out of college and I think GB mis-used him for 4 years. But resurrecting his career is an experiment, and it might not work.
He's the damn Invisible Man...  I haven't heard boo about him from any beat reporters or any guys that fashion themselves scouts on Twitter.

Joseph and Stephen (most  likely) are locks at NT, but there will be a serious battle at 3T.  Tom Johnson will have a spot locked down as a pass rushing specialist if we keep 3 guys there.  If not...  It's anyone's guess who wins the starting spot and is the backup.

The one wild card in all this is Jaleel Johnson.  I don't know if the team is looking at him as a NT or 3T...  I doubt he gets cut since he was a 4th rounder as had a nice sack against the Bills.  But where is the team looking at him?  If it's at NT, he could bump Stephen off the final 53...  Plenty to sort out here.

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